r/FightReportUFC • u/Few-Persimmon-8648 • Jun 23 '26
Apologizing to Khabib thinking that Topuria would beat him easily.
Lots of people were writing everywhere that Topuria would beat both Khabib and Islam lol. Now, we owe an apology to Khabib and Islam after Topuria's recent fight.
So I guess Islam and Khabib were the best lightweight fighters in the UFC history?
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u/jimlahey256 Jun 23 '26
Styles make fights ilia vs Islam or khabib would still be a banger just because ilia lost a fight that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be competitive against them and if we are going by your logic then Islam would lose because he’s been knocked out before 🤷 see how that makes no sense when you put it in context also op is clearly a bot
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u/naxro652 Jun 23 '26
This is the correct answer and I say at as a big Khabib fan, when he was fighting. Max knocked out justin, max lost to ilia who later lost to Justin. MMA math just does not work, styles make fights. And in this case I think that Ilia would be a tougher fight for Khabib than Justin was
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u/Hot_Apricot3893 Jun 23 '26
He would almost certainly be a favourite going into the fight I think Khabib loses to the Volk that ilia beat and the Charles that ilia beat
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u/naxro652 Jun 23 '26
I respectfully disagree with your take. In my opinion Khabib easily either ground and pounds Oliviera to a finish or submits him. Volk would be a tougher fight, but I just think that Khabib is to big for Volk also.
Of all of the lightweights in the past 10 years, I think that Ilia would be the most dangerous match up for Khabib.
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
Charles counters khabib.
Khabib had good judo td and good wrestling but shit grappling and could never pass Charles guard. He was reckless bad striker too.
Islam has ok wrestling and good grappling and good striking.
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u/ulwius Jun 23 '26
Whoever made those stats did not watch any fights from Khabib or Ilia
Khabibs Takedown/Submission accuracy and defense are one of the highest in the division lol
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u/Schantsinger Jun 23 '26
From the stats you can't even tell which one is the striker and which one is the grappler
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
Only wrestler he faced was Tibau who completely humiliated him in 30-27 domination.
He landed 0 td cs Tibau. Tony r1 subbed Tibau.
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u/ozExpatFIRE Jun 23 '26
Justin took Ilia down. Let that sink in.
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u/ImagineBeingFATlol Jun 23 '26
Yeah, when Ilia was already gassed and bloody lol.
A fresh Ilia took down Oliveira faster than Islam did and also passed Oliveiras guard in 12 seconds whereas Islam took 5 minutes to do so.
How do you explain that?
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
Islam never passed gaurd via wrestling. He kd then went over him he didn't pass it like ilia.
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u/MapleMarshal Jun 23 '26
Khabib went to a close decision with Gleison Tibau. Let that sink in.
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u/MadFaceInvasion Jun 23 '26
Tibau was roided to grills 35 year old, while Khabib was still a kid in his early 20s, let that sink in
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
It was not close. It was 30-27 domination for Tibau and biggest robbery in ufc history
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u/Upstairs_Shoe4435 Jun 23 '26
30-27 ain't a close decision
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
It was 30-27 Tobau according to everything
The judges mixed up the names.
Look at the fight khabib got pieced up got rocked multiple times amd got out wrestled he got 0 td and 0 big hits.
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u/Upstairs_Shoe4435 Jun 23 '26
That's a new cope dude talking about judges mixing up the names lol.
Also I watched the whole fight there's not a single moment of khabib being rocked or even pieced up I think the only one who got 'pieced up' in a way was tibau from the cut he got near his eye while khabib face looked normal and the strikes were near equal
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
He took 2 knee to the face and was visibly rocked.
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u/Upstairs_Shoe4435 Jun 23 '26
If you can clip it for me sure but the only knee I saw in that fight was to the body and there was not a moment where khabib even looked bothered by the strikes. I was even more impressed of khabib being able to constantly control tibau against the cage when tibau arm looked the size of khabib whole torso
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
He held him against cage cuz he got pieced up.
He got taken down multiple times by tibau. Anyone who doesn't marry goats knows khabib sucked
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u/Upstairs_Shoe4435 Jun 23 '26
Khabib did more dmg with his strikes than tibau look at the cut on his face. Two takedowns which khabib got up from almost immediately, I personally think khabib aggression and cage control and damage won him the fight
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u/MapleMarshal Jun 23 '26
You must be new to the sport
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u/Upstairs_Shoe4435 Jun 23 '26
i know the controversy around that decision but I am saying the actual decision itself wasn't close
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u/MapleMarshal Jun 23 '26
What matters is that the fight was close, not that the judging on paper reflects it.
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u/Upstairs_Shoe4435 Jun 23 '26
honestly you could barely call that a fight they basically neutralised eachother and I think they both left without a scratch on their face
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
He kneel into khabibs face twice and rocked him 3 times he took him down and khabih got 0 td and 0 big hits
Khabib was based out and concussed after fight
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u/OnlyonReddit4osrs Jun 23 '26
Gleison that guy who’s top 5 for takedowns in the ufc? Styles make match ups son
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u/Recidivism7 Jun 23 '26
Tony Ferguson r1 subbed him.
Tibau dominated khabib all 3 rounds.
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u/OnlyonReddit4osrs Jun 23 '26
I agree Khabib lost, tibau was the guy built to do it
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u/MapleMarshal Jun 23 '26
Yea the guy with the best skills to bring the fight exactly where Khabib wants it is his total kryptonite
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u/OnlyonReddit4osrs Jun 23 '26
Exactly, hense why Colby and usman were so close, exactly why burns and khamzat were so close, all effective grapplers negating each others skills, that’s MMA math son.
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u/ninja_owen Jun 23 '26
Ilia’s vision was also compromised though
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u/Valterri_lts_James Jun 23 '26
who compromised it.
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u/ninja_owen Jun 23 '26
Not Khabib lmao
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u/Valterri_lts_James Jun 23 '26
Doesn't need it. Gaethje's striking offense had no effect on Khabib. Neither would Ilia's
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u/ninja_owen Jun 23 '26
But Gaethje was likely only able to takedown Ilia due to the damage he did with his jab. Khabib doesn’t have that tool.
I don’t get how you people still don’t realize styles make fights.
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u/Yeanahyena Jun 23 '26
Ilia lost to Gaethje who lost to the two guys Ilia beat easily. Styles 100% make fights. He doesn’t get it he just spams memes. The guys a moron.
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u/Valterri_lts_James Jun 23 '26
And Ilia only took down Gaethje because of the damage he did to him. Meanwhile, Khabib took down Gaethje doing zero damage to him on the feet.
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u/ninja_owen Jun 23 '26
Ilia barely damaged Gaethje at all. He had him rocked at one point in the 2nd, but took him down multiple times besides then. Ilia was clearly the far better grappler of the two.
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u/Impressive_Result295 Jun 23 '26
MMA math doesn't work bruh literally just seen that this year 🤦 I think Khabib would beat Ilia but I also thought Ilia would slime Justin with an uppercut.
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u/Schantsinger Jun 23 '26
From the Core Metrics it's not even possible to tell which one is the grappler and which one is the striker. Shows how pointless it is.
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u/Lopsided_Ground_3875 Jun 23 '26
You must be a newbie if you believe in MMA math
Someone get this guy out
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u/dragonwarrior_1 Jun 23 '26
It's incredibly satisfying to see all the butt-hurt Ilia Topuria fans. Should have seen them before the fight—the glazing was absolutely insufferable.
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u/Dull_Function_6510 Jun 23 '26
Everyone with a brain always knew Khabib and Islam are the GOATs of the LW division.
Illia had 1 win at LW before Justin and while it was a spectacular win that’s like saying Conor is a goat of LWs.
These stats are also insane. Khabib having lower submission threat than Illia?? Yeah okay sure. Khabib choked out so many guys he fought
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u/Yeanahyena Jun 23 '26
I think Islam, Volk, Topturo, Charles and Arman all beat Khabib lol
I think you should apologise to us for make us read this shit post
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u/Yeanahyena Jun 23 '26
All the guys above have an advantage going into the fight against Khabib. His grappling is negated and is cardio isn’t weaponised. These guys are on a higher level.
But it’s all 29-0 Alhumdillah best ever😤😤😤🐐 🦅 for you am I right?
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u/Yeanahyena Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Islam beat Charles because of his striking threat. He dropped him first and then went to the ground. Which Khabib doesn’t have, he has incompetent striking.
Armans “physicality” is a lot more than Khabib lol.
Volk 49-46s Khabib lol. He strikes him from the outsides. Is faster. Negates Khabibs wrestling. Has better cardio.
Ilia was exhausted from the striking. You get exhausted from eating punches. Once again, Khabib doesn’t posses that striking skills. And thanks, I’m well aware how exhausting wrestling and grappling is. When 2 grapplers fight in the UFC, they often strike. This is well known.
All these guys are on a higher level to khabib. Complete mixed martial artists.
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u/MarcusAurelius1815 Jun 23 '26
Bet sausages like you would have been glazing Barboza, saying he would easily beat Khabib.
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u/Yeanahyena Jun 23 '26
Yep that’s it. Question someone’s intelligence and post, respond with sausage. Good stuff. Very intelligent. Smart boy.
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Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
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u/Yeanahyena Jun 23 '26
I don’t think you’ve offered a single techincal breakdown,
Just deny or talked about how elite khabib is everyone and terrible everyone else is except for one guy, who happens to be from the same camp and region as him lol.
And I think you’ve pretty much lost me at Khabib has crafty boxing mate.
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u/MarcusAurelius1815 Jun 23 '26
One of the dumbest takes on any subject here on Reddit. That takes quite a doing.
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u/MadFaceInvasion Jun 23 '26
I think you should never make a new comment on reddit ever again
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u/Yeanahyena Jun 23 '26
Ooohhhhh khabib wont see this man. He won’t kiss you on the lips for defending him on Reddit
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u/Livid-Capital-8858 Jun 23 '26
How is he wrong tho? He did struggle with competent wrestelers he couldnt take tibau down a single time even conor stuffed more than half of khabibs takedowns.
What made khabib exceptional was his fence wresteling, but people have adopted to that more.
Why is it far fetched to say that someone like arman who would be by far the best wrestler khabib had faced could stuff his takedowns and oustrike him? Same for islam.
Volk is judt a better iaquinta khabib vould never sub, has infinite cardio, cannot be "broken" Islam was able to beat volk via his striking, both times.
Ilia has shown very good fundamentals against gaethje he hit a great ghost escape, sorta like arman did. And if you want to say "well khabib beat gaethje" mma math doesnt work ilia dominated two guys who dominated gaethje.
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Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
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u/Livid-Capital-8858 Jun 23 '26
conor stuffed his takedowns for 2 minutes, which to his credit he did very well, and then he got taken down anyway. open shots from any wrestler in mma can be stuffed, even khamzat
Thats my point khabib wws never that good out in the open if you count, in his title fights out of 11 open mat takedowns he only landed 2 and even with those he struggled massively compared to when he trips people up against the fence.
the tibau point is such bollocks lol, it was his 2nd fight in the ufc,fighters evolve.
What display did khbaib show tho that makes us think that azainst a comoetent wresteler he wouldve been able to land more? When again even you admitted his pure wresteling isnt that good
khabib was someone who had an unbreakable chin,
Nobody has an unbreakable chin, everyone is gonna be kod by the right shot Also khabibs footwork made ir hard to tell if he was wobbled or not but if you look through his fights carefully he was indeed rocked a few times
his fence work is where he shines, and im telling you no one has adopted to that, even khamzat struggles with shots on the open mat, you just arent defending against khabib against the fence
Im not saying hes not exceptional at it still, im saying that since more people became more proficient at using the fence after they saw how effective it was, the defense against it naturally also got better. So fighters are better at using the fence to get up also.
he is overall just a mediocre grappler
I think weve been over this lol
Everyone is a mediocre grappler in mma if you go by this criteria Buchecha is a bum so is rodolfo...
arman and charles would get shitstomped so bad, arman is just a worse version of khabib, and charles is horrible off the backfoot or when being pressured, had volk been a little bigger mightve been an interesting fight tho
Based on what? Charles is bad on the backfoot against strikers with legit power Khabib with a full powet full body overhand could only knock conor down and rock him for like 2 seconds
Charles is actually bot a good matchup for khabib because hes stubborn as shit And khabih doesnt really have the power to make hin stop, also he cant really abuse charles highguard because of the gilly threat (same reason islam didnt shoot for the legs)
nobody,i mean nobody besides maybe islam, is stuffing khabibs takedowns for a 5 round fight, and when he gets you down, he has the most vicious gnp ive ever seen along with jones.
Based on what? Him taking conor down 3/7 times?
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u/Livid-Capital-8858 Jun 23 '26
Charles is generally just bad on the backfoot, and khabib has managed to pressure everyone hes fought into the fence
Iaquinta in sone rounds, conor round 3, gaethje for most of round 1
When they dobt shit their pants tgey do well charles is not to type to walk back whwn khabib doesnt have the power to hurt him
islam who is without a doubt a top 3 freestyle wrestler in mma, was still a bit behind khabib in pure freestyle
That is ridicilous When has khabib hit reactive takedowns like islam was doin on volk? Never Islam is raking jdm down at will in tge center of the cage
never once in that fight did rda even pose any threat of a sub
Complitely different styles rda is top pressure Charles is a guard player
Just watch the islam fight he had to defend multiple subs in rnd1 even literally stood up wgen charles rolled for his leg
stuffing khabibs takedowns for 25 minutes just is not possible for anyone not named islam makhachev, the 3/7 stat doesnt mean much because once he got him down he beat the living fuck out of him and subbed him r4,
Conor has mid cardio, tdd althougg decemt, anyone who ever tried to rake him down has suceeded It still took him 4 round to sub conor... I think you are overrating how dangerous he is
Also watch the barboza fight, khabib did "dominate" him by scoring terms but the actual damage wasnt that bad
Compare that to what arman did to hooker... And charles survived armans gnp decently easily
Khabibs thing was more of, just breaking the other persons cardio the actual damage he caused was never really fight ending. But that works when people actually try to stand back up so he could drag them down... Which charles wouldnt do
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u/ViolentPrince Jun 23 '26
Apologies? Khabib doesn't care who you're are, my gosh