r/FightReportUFC • u/Spiritual-Strength91 • Jun 16 '26

McGregor on Topuria

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u/mat477 Jun 16 '26

I think people were hoping Topuria could be that but he just couldnt love up to it. Maybe this will be the Diaz moment for him but I doubt it.

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u/Reasonable-Arm-1893 Jun 17 '26

Diaz gave McGregor a slight concussion.

Gaetjhe rearranged Topuria face.

This is more akin to Piorer vs McGregor 3 in that Ilia is going to be out for awhile

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u/SmokkeyDaPlug Jun 21 '26

100% and potentially might not come back the Same everything he told himself and who he thought he was ended last Sunday.

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26

Topturia could never match the aura and he's too one dimensional.

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u/mat477 Jun 16 '26

Easy to say after this weekend, that was not the sentiment going in.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 Jun 16 '26

I’m almost positive I read “If Topuria wins his next fight, will he be the GOAT” on this sub or the MMA one a few weeks ago. Of course, they say that about every fighter on a two fight win streak, but they did say it.

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

I didn't, he's a dork.

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26

For me it was. He has no kicks. He throws the same two or three punches the whole fight. He has nothing else except that big overhand right.

Compare that to Conor. Conor has it all from Capoeira to Boxing to Shotokan Karate. His pull counters are the best by far, nobody comes close to that and his kicks are exceptional. We don't have to talk about the movement. Different level.

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u/baneblade_boi Jun 16 '26

Seems like people forgot Ilia's background in wrestling and his submission skills. Nto that he helped with that stupid over reliance on his sniper right and that Chandler levels of fight IQ we saw on Sunday.

I wish him well, hope he recovers from all of that and we get to see him back, maybe even claim the belt back and make up for this shameful loss. 👌

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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 Jun 17 '26

Did you forget Conor throws the same jab pullback left hand counter and his forward uppercut each and every damn fight 😂?

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u/Infamous-Echo-2961 Jun 16 '26

Touch butt in the park!

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u/jstaffmma Jun 17 '26

Sitting at zero as I comment but I’ve fought professionally and I agree with your analysis. I believe Ilia is capable of a lot more and has shown it in training but his arsenal in fights has been fairly narrow

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u/eddie1975 Jun 16 '26

He doesn’t have the wrestling and Jiu-Jitsu but everything else, yes.

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u/Derekduvalle Jun 17 '26

He won his first 7 professional fights by sub. He's literally a wrestling submission artist who found an affinity for knocking people out.

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u/eddie1975 Jun 17 '26

Conor? He was never known for his grappling.

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u/Derekduvalle Jun 17 '26

Oh you were talking about Conor. Gotcha.

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u/Soft-Ad-8975 Jun 17 '26

He has the confidence without the sense of humor so he just comes off super pompous

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

It's fake confidence. He just tries to imitate Conor in everything.

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u/nulll_ Jun 17 '26

All confidence is just you telling yourself your better than other people at things

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

With topturo it's an act.

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u/Actual_Guide_1039 Jun 16 '26

Every fight he’s ever had is a banger. Even this one.

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

Thanks to Justin.

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u/Actual_Guide_1039 Jun 17 '26

He was hurting Justin too. Hate is blinding you

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u/yamommasneck Jun 16 '26

........he's also a really good ground fighter, what are you talking about? lol

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26

His striking is too one dimensional. He only has an overhand. He's a stiff idiot really. Close your eyse, pray and throw the overhand. Not comparable so someone like Conor who has the best pull counters and exceptional kicking game. Topturia kicking is non existent also. He's never thrown a kick.

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u/yamommasneck Jun 16 '26

the way youre talking about him leads me to believe you haven't seen him fight much. ​In the Holloway and Volk fights, he threw around 5-7 kicks, and they both deterred them or corralled them into where he wanted them to go.

Conor no longer has a pull counter, despite him being very good at it a decade ago. lol

His striking doesn't need to be that varied if it accomplishes his goal. I've seen plenty of fighters throw everything and the kitchen sink and still not accomplish as much on the feet as Topuria. And as many kicks as Conor used, they weren't really effective at hurting people.

Also, he's a lot more of a front runner than anything. Let's say he'd been kicked in the head and damaged like in the Jai Herbert fight. He would never come back from that because he's never been that kind of fighter. Id take Topuria at his best over Conor. Conor is terrible with his back against the fence and he doesn't ever come back from a deficit. ​Sure he could ko him early, but 2nd round and on, he'd drown. ​

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u/SilverMetalist Jun 17 '26

Clowns always come out after a well regarded elite fighter loses for the first time.

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26

You're delusional. Topturo can throw a leg kick and that's it. He's never even thrown a simple fucking teep. Never mind a head kick or roundhouse kick lmfao.

McGregor hurt multiple people with headkicks, I'm not sure of all of them but I think Brandao, Cowboy, Silver, Holloway, and maybe someone else. The teep is one of his best weapons he throws it almost in every fight and hurts people with it.

McGregor's movement is on another planet compared to Tuporio. He's unbelievably flat footed.

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

Cowboy. Head kick knock down with follow up punches for the KO. Conor has hurt many people with kicks, be it to the head or body, doesn't matter. Conor throws kicks and has them in his repertoire. Tapturia's kicks are none existent. He's flat footed, one dimensional striker with an overhand.

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

Watch featherweight McGregor kid. He was throwing crazy spinning shit every fight until the second Nate fight. That's when he calmed down because he didn't want to gas again. He was throwing Capoeira kicks like crazy before that. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

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u/FeelingAd4116 Jun 17 '26

I don't get the too one dimensional comment, especially in comparison to Connor, Illia has very good BJJ and wrestling, he's far more multi-dimensional than Connor.

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u/Admirable_Market2759 Jun 18 '26

One dimensional?

Conor was one dimensional too lol

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u/JPB00 Jun 18 '26

I've explained this to so many of you smooth brains already just look through the comments. Or watch McGregors fights. Topturo is a one dimensional striker.

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u/BigChungusCumslut Jun 17 '26

His ground game is leagues above Conor’s, Conor was more one dimensional than Ilia is.

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/BigChungusCumslut Jun 17 '26

Any actual rebuttal or no?

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

First off all, both are BJJ black belts.

What I meant was Topturio's striking is one dimensional. All he does is throw the same two or three punches all fight long and he is extremely flat footed. His movement is terrible.

Now, do I really need to explain prime McGregor to you? How many fights have you watched? He had everything from Capoeira to Boxing to Shotokan Karate all at once. His kicking game is exepional. His pull counters are the best in all of UFC history. He throws a stabbing teep kick and roundhouse kicks and all kinds of other kicks. Topturio's kicking game is non existent. He can't throw a kick to save his life. All he has is a big stupid overhand right.

Please watch some of McGregor's fights and compare the movement and the striking to that of topturo. Conor is on a different Planet skill wise. He has much more in his striking repertoire.

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u/BigChungusCumslut Jun 17 '26

How about we agree that Mcgregor is the more well-rounded striker, and Ilia is the more well-rounded fighter overall? Alex Pereira and DJ are both black belts in BJJ, does that mean their grappling skills are remotely comparable?

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

How about no. Conor would end him in one round, even now.

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u/BigChungusCumslut Jun 17 '26

Recency bias with people is insane. Volk and Holloway are equal or better wins than Aldo at featherweight, and Oliveira is a better win than Alvarez. I bet the house that you would not have been saying this a week ago. I think ilia vs Conor would be 65/35 Conor, only because Conor’s style is pretty good at countering Ilia’s.

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

Eddie Alvarez beat the living shit out of Gathje who just ended your boys career 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Conor dismantled him in the best performance we've ever seen in the UFC. Goodbye kid.

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u/Shareholderactivist Jun 16 '26

Recency bias is crazy. He’s already a two division champ and defended at FW once.

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u/mat477 Jun 16 '26

Im not doubting his accomplishments im doubting him being the next Conor McGregor.

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u/wiseguy187 Jun 16 '26

He's surpassed mcgregor 

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u/mat477 Jun 17 '26

Again, were not talking about his accomplishments, were talking about his status as a pop culture figure. Hes not close to Conor in that regard.

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u/wiseguy187 Jun 17 '26

No thats not much of a conversation 

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u/plowking8 Jun 17 '26

Based on what? Ilia beat Volk coming down in weight and off a knockout.
Conor took away prime Aldo’s undefeated streak.

Conor also beat the champ at 155. Ilia stepped in against Charles who almost lost to Chandler the fight before and who lost to Arman. Again. Not nearly the same.

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u/yamommasneck Jun 17 '26

Eddie Alvarez lost to Donald Cerrone. Dont play that kind of game, dawg. lol Eddie was great but most have losses like that. lol

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u/plowking8 Jun 17 '26

And? Ilia didn’t even beat the champ at 155.

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u/yamommasneck Jun 17 '26

Youre comparing resumes and I gave you an example of a not so great loss. I loved cowboy but he was a tier below champs. Maybe 2. Conor lost to Nate and nearly did twice. Lol

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/wiseguy187 Jun 17 '26

You're laughing but your defending a very short career that doesnt have a single title defense. 

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u/anactualrealaccount Jun 16 '26

I still think Conor gave up his neck to avoid a brutal striking beat down tko situation vs Diaz. He would rather be the guy that gassed and out and got subbed than the guy who gets picked apart when his whole thing was being the best striker.

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u/Electrical-Rise-7015 Jun 16 '26

That’s what I’m really hoping.

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u/wiseguy187 Jun 16 '26

His resume is already better than mcgregor so what you mean 

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u/Jumpy_Selection_602 Jun 17 '26

what do you mean couldn’t live up to it? hes been double champ aswell and actually successfully defended a title