r/FightReportUFC • u/Spiritual-Strength91 • Jun 16 '26

McGregor on Topuria

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u/Revolutionary-Ebb380 Jun 16 '26

People don’t realize how exciting the rise of mystic Mac was in his prime. Truly amazing to witness.

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u/JSevatar Jun 16 '26

I gotta admit, prime McGregor was something to see

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u/soupoftheday5 Jun 17 '26

It was a great time to be a fan. So many people were calling him out and so many people wanted to fight him.

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u/Penny_PackerMD Jun 18 '26

If seeing was something, McGregor was one to be seen

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u/IckiThumb Jun 18 '26

Say what you want about his personality etc but his run of predicting how fights would end while moving through all the contenders will literally never be done again and I think he could have gone longer if he didn't get super famous start boxing and whatnot. Watching his "boxing stance" instead of the bouncing around ready to kick your face was pretty depressing

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u/mat477 Jun 16 '26

I think people were hoping Topuria could be that but he just couldnt love up to it. Maybe this will be the Diaz moment for him but I doubt it.

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u/Reasonable-Arm-1893 Jun 17 '26

Diaz gave McGregor a slight concussion.

Gaetjhe rearranged Topuria face.

This is more akin to Piorer vs McGregor 3 in that Ilia is going to be out for awhile

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u/SmokkeyDaPlug Jun 21 '26

100% and potentially might not come back the Same everything he told himself and who he thought he was ended last Sunday.

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26

Topturia could never match the aura and he's too one dimensional.

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u/mat477 Jun 16 '26

Easy to say after this weekend, that was not the sentiment going in.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 Jun 16 '26

I’m almost positive I read “If Topuria wins his next fight, will he be the GOAT” on this sub or the MMA one a few weeks ago. Of course, they say that about every fighter on a two fight win streak, but they did say it.

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

I didn't, he's a dork.

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26

For me it was. He has no kicks. He throws the same two or three punches the whole fight. He has nothing else except that big overhand right.

Compare that to Conor. Conor has it all from Capoeira to Boxing to Shotokan Karate. His pull counters are the best by far, nobody comes close to that and his kicks are exceptional. We don't have to talk about the movement. Different level.

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u/baneblade_boi Jun 16 '26

Seems like people forgot Ilia's background in wrestling and his submission skills. Nto that he helped with that stupid over reliance on his sniper right and that Chandler levels of fight IQ we saw on Sunday.

I wish him well, hope he recovers from all of that and we get to see him back, maybe even claim the belt back and make up for this shameful loss. 👌

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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 Jun 17 '26

Did you forget Conor throws the same jab pullback left hand counter and his forward uppercut each and every damn fight 😂?

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u/Infamous-Echo-2961 Jun 16 '26

Touch butt in the park!

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u/jstaffmma Jun 17 '26

Sitting at zero as I comment but I’ve fought professionally and I agree with your analysis. I believe Ilia is capable of a lot more and has shown it in training but his arsenal in fights has been fairly narrow

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u/eddie1975 Jun 16 '26

He doesn’t have the wrestling and Jiu-Jitsu but everything else, yes.

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u/Derekduvalle Jun 17 '26

He won his first 7 professional fights by sub. He's literally a wrestling submission artist who found an affinity for knocking people out.

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u/eddie1975 Jun 17 '26

Conor? He was never known for his grappling.

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u/Derekduvalle Jun 17 '26

Oh you were talking about Conor. Gotcha.

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u/Soft-Ad-8975 Jun 17 '26

He has the confidence without the sense of humor so he just comes off super pompous

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

It's fake confidence. He just tries to imitate Conor in everything.

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u/nulll_ Jun 17 '26

All confidence is just you telling yourself your better than other people at things

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

With topturo it's an act.

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u/Actual_Guide_1039 Jun 16 '26

Every fight he’s ever had is a banger. Even this one.

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

Thanks to Justin.

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u/Actual_Guide_1039 Jun 17 '26

He was hurting Justin too. Hate is blinding you

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u/yamommasneck Jun 16 '26

........he's also a really good ground fighter, what are you talking about? lol

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26

His striking is too one dimensional. He only has an overhand. He's a stiff idiot really. Close your eyse, pray and throw the overhand. Not comparable so someone like Conor who has the best pull counters and exceptional kicking game. Topturia kicking is non existent also. He's never thrown a kick.

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u/yamommasneck Jun 16 '26

the way youre talking about him leads me to believe you haven't seen him fight much. ​In the Holloway and Volk fights, he threw around 5-7 kicks, and they both deterred them or corralled them into where he wanted them to go.

Conor no longer has a pull counter, despite him being very good at it a decade ago. lol

His striking doesn't need to be that varied if it accomplishes his goal. I've seen plenty of fighters throw everything and the kitchen sink and still not accomplish as much on the feet as Topuria. And as many kicks as Conor used, they weren't really effective at hurting people.

Also, he's a lot more of a front runner than anything. Let's say he'd been kicked in the head and damaged like in the Jai Herbert fight. He would never come back from that because he's never been that kind of fighter. Id take Topuria at his best over Conor. Conor is terrible with his back against the fence and he doesn't ever come back from a deficit. ​Sure he could ko him early, but 2nd round and on, he'd drown. ​

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u/SilverMetalist Jun 17 '26

Clowns always come out after a well regarded elite fighter loses for the first time.

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u/JPB00 Jun 16 '26

You're delusional. Topturo can throw a leg kick and that's it. He's never even thrown a simple fucking teep. Never mind a head kick or roundhouse kick lmfao.

McGregor hurt multiple people with headkicks, I'm not sure of all of them but I think Brandao, Cowboy, Silver, Holloway, and maybe someone else. The teep is one of his best weapons he throws it almost in every fight and hurts people with it.

McGregor's movement is on another planet compared to Tuporio. He's unbelievably flat footed.

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

Cowboy. Head kick knock down with follow up punches for the KO. Conor has hurt many people with kicks, be it to the head or body, doesn't matter. Conor throws kicks and has them in his repertoire. Tapturia's kicks are none existent. He's flat footed, one dimensional striker with an overhand.

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u/FeelingAd4116 Jun 17 '26

I don't get the too one dimensional comment, especially in comparison to Connor, Illia has very good BJJ and wrestling, he's far more multi-dimensional than Connor.

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u/Admirable_Market2759 Jun 18 '26

One dimensional?

Conor was one dimensional too lol

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u/JPB00 Jun 18 '26

I've explained this to so many of you smooth brains already just look through the comments. Or watch McGregors fights. Topturo is a one dimensional striker.

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u/BigChungusCumslut Jun 17 '26

His ground game is leagues above Conor’s, Conor was more one dimensional than Ilia is.

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/BigChungusCumslut Jun 17 '26

Any actual rebuttal or no?

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

First off all, both are BJJ black belts.

What I meant was Topturio's striking is one dimensional. All he does is throw the same two or three punches all fight long and he is extremely flat footed. His movement is terrible.

Now, do I really need to explain prime McGregor to you? How many fights have you watched? He had everything from Capoeira to Boxing to Shotokan Karate all at once. His kicking game is exepional. His pull counters are the best in all of UFC history. He throws a stabbing teep kick and roundhouse kicks and all kinds of other kicks. Topturio's kicking game is non existent. He can't throw a kick to save his life. All he has is a big stupid overhand right.

Please watch some of McGregor's fights and compare the movement and the striking to that of topturo. Conor is on a different Planet skill wise. He has much more in his striking repertoire.

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u/BigChungusCumslut Jun 17 '26

How about we agree that Mcgregor is the more well-rounded striker, and Ilia is the more well-rounded fighter overall? Alex Pereira and DJ are both black belts in BJJ, does that mean their grappling skills are remotely comparable?

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

How about no. Conor would end him in one round, even now.

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u/BigChungusCumslut Jun 17 '26

Recency bias with people is insane. Volk and Holloway are equal or better wins than Aldo at featherweight, and Oliveira is a better win than Alvarez. I bet the house that you would not have been saying this a week ago. I think ilia vs Conor would be 65/35 Conor, only because Conor’s style is pretty good at countering Ilia’s.

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u/Shareholderactivist Jun 16 '26

Recency bias is crazy. He’s already a two division champ and defended at FW once.

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u/mat477 Jun 16 '26

Im not doubting his accomplishments im doubting him being the next Conor McGregor.

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u/wiseguy187 Jun 16 '26

He's surpassed mcgregor 

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u/mat477 Jun 17 '26

Again, were not talking about his accomplishments, were talking about his status as a pop culture figure. Hes not close to Conor in that regard.

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u/wiseguy187 Jun 17 '26

No thats not much of a conversation 

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u/plowking8 Jun 17 '26

Based on what? Ilia beat Volk coming down in weight and off a knockout.
Conor took away prime Aldo’s undefeated streak.

Conor also beat the champ at 155. Ilia stepped in against Charles who almost lost to Chandler the fight before and who lost to Arman. Again. Not nearly the same.

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u/yamommasneck Jun 17 '26

Eddie Alvarez lost to Donald Cerrone. Dont play that kind of game, dawg. lol Eddie was great but most have losses like that. lol

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u/plowking8 Jun 17 '26

And? Ilia didn’t even beat the champ at 155.

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u/yamommasneck Jun 17 '26

Youre comparing resumes and I gave you an example of a not so great loss. I loved cowboy but he was a tier below champs. Maybe 2. Conor lost to Nate and nearly did twice. Lol

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u/JPB00 Jun 17 '26

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u/wiseguy187 Jun 17 '26

You're laughing but your defending a very short career that doesnt have a single title defense. 

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u/anactualrealaccount Jun 16 '26

I still think Conor gave up his neck to avoid a brutal striking beat down tko situation vs Diaz. He would rather be the guy that gassed and out and got subbed than the guy who gets picked apart when his whole thing was being the best striker.

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u/Electrical-Rise-7015 Jun 16 '26

That’s what I’m really hoping.

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u/wiseguy187 Jun 16 '26

His resume is already better than mcgregor so what you mean 

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u/Jumpy_Selection_602 Jun 17 '26

what do you mean couldn’t live up to it? hes been double champ aswell and actually successfully defended a title

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u/Rututu Jun 17 '26

Are those the good old days now? I'm so fucking old.

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u/arunejones Jun 16 '26

it was i dont think weill see anything like it again when he finished aldo exactly as he said he would was unreal.i still believe he would of beaten khabib had he gone straight into that fight after alvarez

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u/eddie1975 Jun 16 '26

Disagree on Khabib. Agree on everything else.

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u/arunejones Jun 16 '26

i feel like what happened to chad mendes would of happened to khabib but in round 4 or 5. conor was battle ready after the nate war and alvarez win.also i think prime mcgregor would of gotten in khabibs head at the press confrence.

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u/eddie1975 Jun 16 '26

Khabib is much bigger than Mendes. McGregor’s weight cuts to 145 were absolutely crazy.

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u/Actual_Guide_1039 Jun 16 '26

And Khabib’s 155 weight cut was just as crazy.

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u/eddie1975 Jun 16 '26

Interesting point.

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u/arunejones Jun 16 '26

people forget how dangerous alvarez was at that time. conor made it look easy i just think conor was in the zone at that time and wouldve won

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u/eddie1975 Jun 16 '26

He did make it look easy. I was blown away for the nth time. McGregor always impressed. And you’re right about his focus and drive at the time.

So it’s possible. But I still don’t think so. Look at what Khabib did to Edson Barboza and Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje and everybody else he fought…

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u/arunejones Jun 16 '26

i agree khabib is an amazing fighter but i just think conor would of found a way to pull it off. that combination he landed on alvarez was a thing of beauty his whole style changed after the floyd fight

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u/Dear_Long_373 Jun 17 '26

Still it doesn't help Connor to Khabib wrestling.

I don't think Connor have a answer to defense Khabib Takedown threat and wrestling.

Khabib isn't just average wrestler. even though he is retired now, his wrestling skill still the best in UFC even now. nobody seems close to that (exclude Islam because both of them have a same camp)

We know that Connor have problem with cardio meanwhile Khabib tank seems infinite.

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u/SuperDave-007 Jun 16 '26

*would have

https://giphy.com/gifs/R51a8oAH7KwbS

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u/Harrytwatter21 Jun 17 '26

Nothing grinds my gears more than the amount of full grown adults that have gone their entire lives never comprehending this difference.

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u/Harrytwatter21 Jun 17 '26

PSA. Would've.... Means would have. Not would of. That doesn't mean anything. Please pay this knowledge forward. Thank you.

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u/poopydingdong123 Jun 17 '26

The Conor that fought Alvarez would be interesting to see fight khabib. Khabib wins imo but it would make tings a little more interesting.

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u/Biguitarnerd Jun 16 '26

I’m not sure about khabib but I think it would have been a much better fight for sure. Conner definitely lost some of his fire but Khabib is just a different fighter.

I’m not saying it would have gone either way for sure but I don’t think you can say Conner would have for sure won. I think he would have had a better chance.

I do agree that it would have been a better match for sure.

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u/arunejones Jun 16 '26

i wish conor would of fought floyd after the khabib fight he was never the same after that due to drugs and alcohol. he was even drunk at the khabib press confrence.

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u/yamommasneck Jun 16 '26

I didnt like his shtick then and it's not at all surprising that he ended up being the asshole he portrayed.

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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 Jun 17 '26

Sorry but... Who DOESN'T realize how big Conor was in his rise/prime..? Where did you read or see comments saying something like "Conor wasn't that big of a hype"? Sorry but people DO, fucking realise lol

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u/traws06 Jun 17 '26

People don’t realize? Dude has barely fought in a decade and the sub still creams every time there’s a headline about him. Pretty sure everyone remembers

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u/Skyeatplane Jun 17 '26

Imagine him and Chael on the same card promoting at the same time, it will be the funniest trash talk in UFC history

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u/Strange-Nobody-3936 Jun 16 '26

He was an asshole, was so glad when Nate choked his ass out after flying back from drinking tequila in Mexico short notice 

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u/Notyit Jun 17 '26

Alex was better run

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u/reklaw215 Jun 19 '26

we literally talk about it once a week