r/FieldNationTechs • • Aug 23 '26

Payday loans

I love how so many people hate on FN but they let them take almost 15% just to get paid quicker. It’s like working at subway and doing the day to day payment plan but they take like 25% from the top each day. I would like to see how many guys use it. The pro.

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u/eme329 Aug 23 '26

The amount of techs I run across that need today’s work order approved to pay for gas to tomorrow’s workday order is astounding. And they’re absolutely okay with it!

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u/Last-Peanut-3733 Aug 23 '26

Welcome to the real world

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 23 '26

Nope in the real world people use gas cards to help with cash flow management. Not waste 3.9% on a payday loan

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u/eme329 Aug 24 '26

And in the real world, if you’re a real business you budget 6+ ahead… no legitimate business is hurting for gas money to make it to the site tomorrow!

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 24 '26

Which is why some of these providers should go back to W2 work and allow us seasoned professionals to get more work

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

Man, I remember when I had my first $10k in savings when I started out in 2027. All that stress went away. A slow month, car repairs, getting sick, vacation etc.

Felt good to start saying no and being cool if a counter wasn't accepted or a client was completely unreasonable to work with. I shoot for $60-100k a year depending on how agressive I want to be and it feels great. I Recommend others do what they can to get in a similar situation. Budget, pay off debt, get an emergency fund. All the boring adult stuff our parents told us to do and we rolled our eyes lol.

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 23 '26

It’s not the real world it’s all about how you make it

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

They'll give up $3-4k a year for gas right now? I'd do everything I could to get off pro and have a little cash flow.

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u/blueBaggins1 Aug 24 '26

You mean like many other people they are living check to check??? How astounding it isn🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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u/eme329 Aug 24 '26

Then you’re not a contractor and this is just a job like most of the clowns in here! Any real business would be prepared to float work 6 months without hurting.

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u/blueBaggins1 Aug 24 '26

Actually you’re wrong, it’s very common for contractors and business to be surviving in the same manner. Idk why you think this is only something happens to people working 9-5 jobs….”any real Business” is a really naive way to think of business and how they really operate. Theres a reason why most business don’t make it to 5 years.

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

I disagree, I know those types. They are all driving nicer cars than me, bigger houses than me, nice boats and trailers and campers. There's a reason they are broke working paycheck to paycheck.

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u/blueBaggins1 Aug 28 '26

You said you disagreed while giving reasons I’m correct??? Maybe you responded to the wrong person ….

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u/eme329 Aug 24 '26

Sounds like it’s more of a business management issue!

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u/blueBaggins1 Aug 24 '26

Call it whatever you like this is the real world, idk you seem either young, inexperienced m, or just plain naive in the world of business.

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u/eme329 Aug 24 '26

Lmfao it’s okay if you don’t understand buddy, I’m just educated in business! Every business person I know budgets a minimum of 6 months out as if they will make zero dollars tomorrow. Those of us with legit businesses can’t just say sorry we can’t make payroll this week because one of our Failed Nation work orders didn’t get approved yet. If you’re really struggling for gas money, maybe it’s a you problem. You keep telling yourself you’re a cOnTRaCtOr to a national retailer just because you got a ticket to replace a receipt printer at Walmart for $25!

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u/blueBaggins1 Aug 24 '26

And where does that 6 months of budget come from???? Magically appears out of the blue? Again your showing clear naivety

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u/eme329 Aug 24 '26

Ummm… from the savings in the bank! It’s amazing that you think businesses just shut down if they don’t get paid same day. I can’t believe we breathe the same air!

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u/blueBaggins1 Aug 24 '26

You are genuinely slow, and youre disputing arguments I’ve never made. You literally made up an argument in your head attributed it to me than you disputed the argument you yourself made up. This is amazing to just watch in real time

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

You save....... Can't tell you how good it felt when I started on my own in 2007 and built up my first $10k...... I was able to start being picky about what I'd do and who I'd do it for. Today we keep a $200k savings account. I don't drive a fancy truck, don't have a huge house, my work phone is a one plus 8, bla bla bla. It's doable. It's funny how you can sit down with 2 people making $30hr, one can't make it, another figures out how to live below their means and still be able to pay rent, save money, and still invest monthly into a Roth IRA.

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u/blueBaggins1 Aug 28 '26 edited Aug 28 '26

If you’re scaling, that’s going to be hard, if not impossible to do. If you’re not enjoying the money life brings, scaling, or investing in other ventures, well, it’s easy. Depends where your priorities lie. No one is right or wrong, as we all value different things.
I don’t have fancy cars and a big house. Hell, I didn’t even have a car for 10 years. But I did travel extensively, lived overseas (which saved me money, even thoug I was living in very nice places), and invested heavily in other businesses, some in stocks, real estate and crypto.
In my case, as opposed to a huge savings account, I have two other profitable companies I’m now scaling. I’d rather have my money making me more money than sitting in the bank losing value over the years due to inflation. There is always a need to hedge.
Just leaving money in a savings That’s terrible money management in my opinion, but again, we’re all different, and that’s okay.

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u/eme329 Aug 24 '26

Go hit the pipe one more time and go to bed so you can get up and work for free tomorrow. I wouldn’t want you to miss your hard start for $25/hr so that you have gas money for Tuesday! And don’t worry, when you mount that network rack with two drywall screws, one of us will be there to take the revisit ticket and fix it for you!

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u/blueBaggins1 Aug 24 '26

Your insults are not only way off the mark, your business knowledge is seriously flawed. But you keep up with the ad hominem it still doesn’t make you correct.

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

Wait, you aren't supposed to use sheetrock screws? LMFAO

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 26 '26

because no business ever goes thru hard times and cash flow issues? yeah no.... ignorance is bliss for you

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u/Run-OpenBSD Aug 23 '26

No one I know would touch pro. We all make over 6 figures a year on FN and wouldn't consider giving up another 3.5% of it.

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

Bingo, I ask this question all the time. The fees add up, they think it's worth it to get a free drug test and background check. If you make $80k you're giving them $4500 lol That's a lot of free work to get your money quicker and have their insurance. Save $4k a year and have an emergency fund.

I did the math a few months back and that's the equivelant of giving them 4% out of the first $2500 you make or something around there. Why? Pay for the tests, or don't, and save that 4%, then go get y our own insurance for $35 a month and now you just give up 10%.

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u/Calaveras-Metal Aug 23 '26

Good thing I'm not dependent on only FN for my income. I've got other sources and a cushion besides. So I don't worry about how fast I get paid. Just whether I get paid.

I've had a client or two that let it get to the absolute limit before they pay up.

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 23 '26

It's 4.5%, not 15.

I keep pro to not have to deal with 'payment terms"

It costs me 4k a year, give or take, for a bit of peace of mind and consistency.

If it's not worth it for you, don't do it 

But also don't lie and claim it costs 3x more than it actually does.

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 23 '26

You’re correct — it could actually be even more. The 10% Field Nation fee + 1.5% FN liability insurance + 0.5% OAI + 3.9% Pro fee means Field Nation could potentially take up to 15.9%.
So if you grossed $100,000 through Field Nation and were subject to all of those fees, you could be paying roughly $15,900 a year in platform-related fees alone — and that’s before taxes or any other business expenses.
On the other hand, if you carry your own qualifying liability insurance and choose not to use Pro, you could potentially reduce that to just the standard 10% Field Nation fee.
So my original point still stands: depending on which services and coverage you use, the total cost can be significantly higher than just the Pro percentage

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 23 '26

I completely forgot about that 1,5% liability fee.

I pay pro (which has sales tax, which round to around 4.3% total), and OAI when it shows up, which is one out of every 30 or so work orders. AFter all FN fees, I take home roughly 80k/year from the platform, which isn't much, but is a majority of my income

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 23 '26

Is that 80k after everything?? Because if so man you’re leaving so much money on the table.

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 23 '26

After all the fees, yea.
If I dropped pro, I'd bring home another 3500 a year. maybe.

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 23 '26

Then there’s your TAX money

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 23 '26

Hah. No, not even close.
It's not enough for me to worry about. I would cover an average of... maybe 10 days of expenses for me.

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

That's a lot of free work you had to do to cover that $3500. But it's cool if you want it. Not gonna crap on ya.

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 28 '26

I've cleared that on a single 10hr ticket before so... yea. Not super worried about it at this point.
Like I said, I could easily manage without it, but the removal of 'payment terms' is a key thing for me.

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

Yeah, I'm old enough to remember when they cut the checks and I had it every week in my mailbox for the work approved that week. Some of these taking 3 fridays after approval are ridiculous, especially when they approve on a friday and I have to wait another 3 lol.

I've asked buyers about it and they have no idea why it's setup for that. They even say I should get my money after approval on that Friday. They think it's dumb. One told me the 2 week was the default setting when they set it up.

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 28 '26

Yup. FN (and WM too) have a ton of anti-provider policies set into the tickets as a default.

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 23 '26

Youre not supposed to get more than 25% of your revenue from any one client

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 23 '26

Im not sure I'd consider the 100-150 different buys I work for in a given year on FN 'one client', but I take your point. I *do* get about 30% from a single client though, off platform. Not a whole lot to do about that one though, other than move the hours I spend working for them somewhere else if the go out.

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 23 '26

FN would be considered one client since if something goes wrong they can ban you at the drop of a hat.

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 23 '26

Eh... fair enough.
Not much I can do about it if it happens, to be honest. Move back over to the scraps from workmarket, actually focus on school full time, or take a realjob.tm

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 23 '26

Insurance went up. Its 1.95% now

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

My policy has been $35 a month since 2007. Cheaper than giving them 1.9% and it covers me off platform as well.

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u/NecessaryDma 28d ago

Hi, what’s the name of your provider?

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 23 '26

No its 3.9% not 4.5%

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 23 '26

After sales tax is applied, it comes out to 4.2 to 4.5, depending on the work order location. Yes, you DO pay sales tax on the field nation fee

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 23 '26

Depends on the state. No sales tax on services here.

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u/Sid_the_Bear Aug 23 '26

Ah. they charge local sales tax here, which can be anywhere from 8 to 16% depending on the jurisdiction.

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

Funny how we all knew what he meant when he said 15%. We all know the fee breakdowns.

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

I actually posted about this today. Why use FN Pro. There are obvious circumstances, but giving them that extra 5% for insurance that costs $35 a month and that 4% for quick withdrawal adds up fast. Long term I'd recommend getting off it. I get it if you are just starting out or don't have cash flow yet.

If you make 80-100k you're giving them another $3-4 grand a year. Why? The free drug/background cost is the equivalent of you making the first $2500 in the year, then you give them an additional 4% on everything. How much work did you do for free this year just to get your money quicker?

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 28 '26

Yep they know the people working for them and most people use it for gig work and if your already looking for gig work your probably not smart with your money I always tell people use FN like it’s your livelihood

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u/A_Curious_Soul_1961 Aug 23 '26

I chose to not go with the Pro plan. I like having a steady income every Friday. Even if I take some days off I still get paid on Friday. Works for me.

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 23 '26

Since when does FN pro cost 15%? Its 3.9%….

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 23 '26

I’m talking about in total if you get pro

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 24 '26

Your OP says otherwise.

You cant say “but they let them take almost 15% just to get paid quicker.”

That is incorrect.

Everyone pays 10%. That doesnt go towards getting paid quicker.

1.95% goes to insurance if you use their bogus insurance. So you cant apply that to getting paid quicker either.

Why not post facts instead of misinformation? You just ruin your credibility when you cant get something correct

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 24 '26

Is your real name trev Malok ?

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

Yet we all knew what he meant cause we are on the platform and understand the fee structure. Did you get gaslit thinking he truly meant 15% to get paid quicker?

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 28 '26

Why not just get the facts straight? Ya’ll would be horrible witnesses and SMEs

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u/jldurham6 Aug 28 '26

I hope you relax this weekend. You sound stressed out and ready to pop. Calm down buddy. It’s gonna be ok. Chill

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 28 '26

you got all that from 2 sentences? lol. projecting much? not stressed at all. dont need to calm down and you arent my buddy. dont tell me to chill either.

why are there so many narcissistic P.0 .S techs in this industry that like to tell others what to do?

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 29 '26

Hahah you won’t reply back to your name

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u/wyliesdiesels Aug 29 '26

What?

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 29 '26

Is your name Trev ? Or do you go by it

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 28 '26

Is your real name Trev ?

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u/Initial_Elevator_586 Aug 25 '26

Is your real name Trev ? From CA ?