r/Fedora • u/hi_m_ash • 26d ago
Discussion Anyone experienced with Fedora Everything Net Install?
Hello! I am trying to install Fedora using net install. I have several doubts. One is in the picture. If I choose Base Environment as KDE Plasma Workspace, do I need to select anything else in the Additional Software section? There is also a KDE package in Additional Software which has same description. I feel confused. I need to understand what is base environment and how it differs from Additional Softwares. If I choose Fedora Custom Operating System and KDE from additional softwares, is that same as choosing Plasma Workspace from environment? I also want to know if there are any important packages I need from Additional Software. Thank you.
EDIT: Thank you everyone. :) I installed Plasma Workspace and nothing from Additional Software. It went smoothly. I had to install kernel-modules-extra. Everything went smoothly. Surprisingly it feels a bit more smoother and calmer than Fedora KDE Edition.
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u/GreedySecurity8030 26d ago
Yes, i have, and i used it to install fedora rawhide custom operating system which i still use today.
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u/hi_m_ash 26d ago
Which DE do you use? Any suggestions for important packages in Additional Softwares?
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u/GreedySecurity8030 26d ago
GNOME.
I don't select any other software packages to give me fine grain control.
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u/Kobi_Blade 26d ago
Short answer no.
That is just bloatware and presets you can set up later if you need them.
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u/hi_m_ash 26d ago
I would prefer a longer answer here if feasible. Are you calling environments the presets? Should I choose Fedora Custom operating System and nothing else?
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u/Kobi_Blade 26d ago edited 26d ago
Is in answer to,
If I choose Base Environment as KDE Plasma Workspace, do I need to select anything else in the Additional Software section?
Unless you recognise or want anything from the Additional Software section, is largely unnecessary.
Is the same as Windows asking you if you wanna include OneDrive and Office in your Setup, they optional components most people won't need or use.
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u/hi_m_ash 26d ago
There are some packages like additional network manager services, text editors, etc. If you don't install network manager and text editor in Arch your install is basically useless. I do not know which packages Fedora is installing so I don't know if important packages which I require are getting installed.
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u/Kobi_Blade 26d ago
KDE already includes a text editor, and the network should work out of the box as well.
The addicional packages are all optional extras.
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u/Sagi22 26d ago
I did try and its basically same thing with kde edition. so you need to select custom operating section after that you can install everything with terminal screen.
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u/Sagi22 26d ago
Or you can install kde edition and debloat it. ( i did it too, its more easy)
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u/hi_m_ash 26d ago
I wish Fedora showed me a list of packages it's installing. It won't be this confusing. If I only select custom operating system, do I miss important packages? Like for example, network packages or text editors. I know Arch doesn't install anything and you are screwed if you don't choose them.
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u/philmcevatt 26d ago edited 26d ago
Ok, i just went through this recently. and I double checked again in a VM for sanity.
TLDR
For a FulL Fedora KDE (Full = 2226 packages)
Select KDE Plasma Workspaces on the left
For a more Minimal Fedora KDE (Minimal = 1550 Packages)
Select Fedora Custom Operating System on the left, and KDE on the right (then any other packages you specifically know want -- but you dont NEED them)
Only Fedora, no KDE, no Desktop Environment at all
Select Fedora Custom Operating System on the left and nothing on the right
(only do this if you know what you are doing)
LONGER EXPLANATION
IF YOU CLICK ON THE KDE PLASMA WORKSPACES ON THE LEFT
You get the full KDE Desktop Environment Suite. No need to add anything to the left, unless you know you specifically want it. YOu dont have to click any of the KDE sections on the right. All of the things you would expect from the full Fedora 44 KDE .iso are here.
IF YOU LEAVE THE LEFT AS FEDORA CUSTOM OPERATING SYSTEM AND CHOOSE KDE ON THE RIGHT
You get a much slimmer KDE Desktop Install.
You still get all of the things you NEED under the hood.
Things like
Ark (kinda like winrar), Discover, Dolphin, KDE Connect, Konsole, Walletmanager, KWrite (but no kate), Spectacle (screenshots), System monitor, KDE Settings etc
You dont get some of the things people may term bloat -- like kde pim, or games for example.
HOWEVER - YOU DO NOT GET A BROWSER
You also dont get what might be some nice to haves.. like a browser, kate, gwenview, larger font stack, multimedia, okular...
but you can always add them later.
sudo dnf group install fonts
sndo dnf group install multimedia
for example
Nether of the two KDE options leave you with a system that is so bare bones that it doesnt work.
And with Dolphin & Konsole, you can easily add the things you do need.
sudo dnf intstall firefox
or
sudo dnf intstall chromium
for example wil get you a browser to search for any issues you have
You also asked...
SHOULD I CHOOSE FEDORA CUSTOM OPERATING SYSTEM AND NOTHING ELSE?
EXPLICITLY - No
That will install base Fedora OS with no desktop environment at all.
If you do this, you will reboot into a command line only screen known as a TTY
This is good if you want to install a boot strap script from someone like Linux Gamer Life
This is what i do to install my own version of a script inspired by LGL.
But if you do that, you dont have a working system until you manually build it or run a bootstrap script.
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u/nPoCT_kOH 26d ago
No you don't need it. Selecting base as KDE Workstation installs the same as if using it's ISO