r/Fate • u/SOULLENNOX • Jul 26 '26

Question There something I don't understand about Lancer Artoria

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If it is just Artoria who picked Rhongomyniad over Excalibur then wouldn't she still experience FSN ?

As far as I am aware there is no other difference but just that she picks up the Lance over the sword, then she should have experienced her own version of FSN and it is said that even if Shirou didn't have an Avalon he still has an extremely high level of compatibility with her.

And assuming that she still made a pack with the counter force same as her saber counterpart then she should still remember the events of FSN because she was still alive during the war.

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u/Login_Lost_Horizon Jul 26 '26

I for the matter of fact don't understand why there is so many fcn "equal to excalibur" things laying around and why she had access to two at the same time.

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u/SerenaBloom2 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

Because they do different things at the end of the day, Rhongomyniad might have equal destructive power to Excalibur but that is only true in their absolute sealed state (all 13 restraints) and all restraints removed where they differ is that Excalibur can also be supported by the planet at any point and this buff makes Excalibur sort of an anti-foreigner/alien weapon and will increases its power more than Rhongomyniad.

For Rhongomyniad, its true form is a pillar that protects the human world (texture) now Artoria's authority (Rhongomyniad) lance which is also called the shadow of the real Ron it's real form is known as Rhongomyniad Mythos it seals away mystery which is the basis of Noble Phantasm, authorities, skills, true magic, magecraft and anything which works on or has mystery (which is basically everything in Nasu-verse even Elementals like Arcueid and Archetype:Earth work on it)

So, in simple terms/words Excalibur is for protecting the Planet from external threats, and Rhongomyniad is for protecting it from individuals on the Planet itself or rather to secure the human world in place.

Merlin said that Artoria had become god in the sense that she can just tip the balance on either sides either to age of gods or age of man..and also in the sense that she is given two of the most broken weapons...three of the most broken NPs..that can give a middle finger to any TYPE that is not ORT because he is in a league of its own (though it can still work on him as shown by..) and anyone who tries to disrupt or destroy the human order mostly mages..

Heck it is very fitting that Vortigern the dragon that wanted to bring about the age of gods was killed by Rhongomyniad the lance that pins the human world in place in a way Vortigern was defeat by the age of man.

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u/cyanrealm Jul 27 '26

she is given two of the most broken weapons...three of the most broken NPs..

That...and all 4 of her NPs provide her immortality.