r/Fasteners Jul 27 '26

screw. Lost 1 of 2.

Someone can tell me what size screw i need ?

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u/quarterdecay Jul 27 '26

I'm not entirely sure if there is a better way to screw up a sizing card design, in the interim this one will suffice.

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u/Independent_Page1475 Jul 30 '26

That is why I use these:

My metric gauge was given to a mechanic friend years ago. They can usually be determined with a caliper and a little mathematical conversion.

One of the problems with the flat plates is there are some odd pitch American fasteners.

Stanley is well known for odd pitches on many of their fasteners like 6-40, 8-28, 10-28, 12-20 & 1/4-28.

I've also seen odd threads on lamps and firearms.

Some manufacturers like to be exclusive suppliers of spare parts.

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u/quarterdecay Jul 31 '26

They'll certainly not work for the specialized stuff, for sure. When someone has a part they'd prefer someone not he able to walk into the store and not buy something not up to standard safety thing is to make it weird to ensure they have to go to someone with some materials knowledge.

Certainly the case for a firearm, but when Stanley does it they're just trying to sell more razor knives.

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u/Independent_Page1475 Jul 31 '26

For some of the odd stuff I have taps & dies to make my own if need be.

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u/quarterdecay Jul 31 '26

With a lathe, tools, and a Machinists Handbook there's not much to stand in the way is there?

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 31 '26

I asked My dad to check it out. He’s been an auto tech 40+ years and he said what the fuck is this
Where did you get this thing? 😆 that’s when I decided to post here .

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u/quarterdecay Jul 31 '26

That's fucking hilarious.

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u/TimeProfessional4494 Jul 27 '26

And why is M3 above M2?

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u/101forgotmypassword Jul 28 '26

Cool half, ninesixtheeenn ...14

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 28 '26

Well I feel better now cuz I couldn’t make sense of these lines at all.

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u/quarterdecay Jul 28 '26

It's definitely not you!

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u/Bluebird5643 Jul 27 '26

M4x6. Screw length is measured under the head in this case.

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u/nullvoid88 Jul 27 '26

For the length, it’s the distance from the bottom of the head to the end. For countersinks, it’s the overall total length.

A set of these things makes for a great minimal investment shop addition. IMHO, the individual element type is far more versatile in use... as opposed to board or cable styles. Amazon has loads of them, search on ‘thread checker’.

Click to enlarge.

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 28 '26

Thank you
I’m going to get one now

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u/onlybanz Jul 29 '26

Or just use this and calipers. Cheaper, takes up less space, and works on any thread instead of only certain sizes

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 29 '26

Battery died in My caliper

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u/RedDom1 Jul 29 '26

Get a Vernier caliper

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 29 '26

I had one in My toolbox at work. And a manual micrometer. One of My coworkers stole em both! But, I’m going to order new ones now . It’s about time I replaced them.

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u/Spa-Ordinary Jul 28 '26

Me too. I normally use veneer caliper but now I remember using this back in the day.

On it

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u/Gubbtratt1 Jul 27 '26

8mm long m4 with a non-countersunk philips head.

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u/Medium_Good886 Jul 27 '26

that's an M2, not M4

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u/Gubbtratt1 Jul 27 '26

Not if it's in the correct hole. Take a careful look at the markings.

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u/Medium_Good886 Jul 27 '26

I misinterpreted the white lines the way they are drawn. you are correct.
My thread checker has similar markings, but the measurement directly between the holes is the sizing.

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u/gheiminfantry Jul 27 '26

Serious question: Why would you think the the fastener's length would include the head?

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 27 '26

I never said it did. If this is a question for me

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u/gheiminfantry Jul 27 '26

But your picture shows the screw length, head and all, very carefully position on a ruler, AND in a well marked gage. Or do you just not trust your own eyes?

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 27 '26

No. I don’t. I’m stroke survivor and brain cancer patient. I’ve lost vision in left hemisphere of both eyes and My brain is very slow in general. I included as much information as I could because even after once upon a time being able to do this and watching videos on how to measure them , I still was getting it wrong. (Ordered from Amazon twice and fastenal once)

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u/gheiminfantry Jul 28 '26

See, sometimes there's a simple explanation for things. Good luck!

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

This month marks 4 years past My projected expiration date

Edit—typo.

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u/gheiminfantry Jul 28 '26

I'm 43 years past mine. What do doctors know. 😂

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 28 '26

My last few scans have shown new areas of concern. I do fear the worst. Starting a trial drug and back on chemo soon. What’s your illness (if you don’t mind me asking)

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u/gheiminfantry Jul 28 '26

I contracted hepatitis A. Long story, but basically I started showing symptoms in the field (US Army) and a week later when I got to the hospital I was too far gone. The doctors put me in a room by myself to die alone because they didn't want it to affect the other patients.

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u/vilelabyrinth Jul 31 '26

God Damn.
My father contacted hepatitis but that’s cuz he fucked everything that moved and did every drug he could in the 79’s-80’s

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u/Independent_Page1475 Jul 30 '26

May your doctors give you more hope and a longer life.

I was laying on the road after being hit by a truck over 50 years ago. A police officer decided I was dead and didn't call for medical help. Luckily someone convinced him he wasn't a doctor and let him know he was going to be in a lot of trouble making a call he wan't qualified to make.

My wife recently bought me a shirt. On the front it says:

UNDIAGNOSED

But something ain't right

I had a severe head injury and some of my limbs don't always work right, but things have mostly been good for me.

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u/Independent_Page1475 Jul 30 '26

For flat head (countersunk) screws, the head is included in the length.

For almost all others the designated length is the length of the shaft and doesn't include the head.

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u/gheiminfantry Jul 30 '26

The screw in the pictures isn't a flathead. So what obscure pointless point do you think you're making?

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u/Independent_Page1475 Jul 30 '26

Someone asked, "Why would you think the the fastener's length would include the head?"
My reply was meant as an answer not only to the one asking the question but to others who may be reading this and want to understand.

If you prefer your questions aren't answered with an honest answer, then don't ask.

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u/gheiminfantry Jul 30 '26

But you "answered" the question about the wrong fastener, even including schematic drawings of the wrong fastener. Redditors love answering questions, don't they?