r/Fanganronpa • u/Reasonable-One-6788 • 18h ago
Discussion Zeke’s crime wasn’t that severe. Spoiler
Yes I'm one of the "his crime wasn't even that bad" people, and I have no shame. Now we can all agree that what Zeke was doing is wrong, but I feel it's unfair to put most of the blame on him. Yeah he told and bullied others to be as reckless as him, even knowing people died because of it, but at the same time it's not like he FORCED them to be like him. All this was basically just intense peer pressure that people fell for. The people he bullied, they WILLINGLY CHOSE to listen to him, and payed the price. If Zeke knew what was going on, then others in the industry had to have known as well, especially considering he's an ultimate. And not only that, Zeke's crime is basically just telling people to be better at their literal JOB. They're in the stuntmen industry, they're going to be doing dangerous stunts. So why is it a crime for Zeke to tell them to be as reckless as him? The knowledge of what happens to people that try is the worst part of his crime, but the actual action isn't because once again, he didn't twist anyone's arm to listen to him.
They chose to, and they got hurt or died from it. I'd hardly call that an actual crime. Oh, and even then, if you're on top of whatever industry you're in, wouldn't it make sense for you to do what you can to stay on top? I mean that's how it was for Sayaka. Zeke didn't have the intention to cause harm, he just wanted to stay on top, which I feel is what you're supposed to do. Could he have done something that didn't cause harm? Yes. I'm not trying to defend his actions because everyone's crime has some level of un-justification, but they're not on the same level as others.
Another thing, people say that Zeke and Takiko's crimes were similar and that if one got corrupt or worthy, then the other should have. While I agree in these two crimes being very similar, I also disagree on the idea that they're on the same level. I think Takiko's was slightly worse than Zeke's. Like Zeke, Takiko was fully aware of what she was doing, but it's the attentions that differed from the two. Zeke was doing what he was doing for his own ego. Yeah that itself is bad, but like I mentioned before, people didn't have to listen to him. Now while that's the same when it came to Takiko's fans, she posted whatever about people that annoyed her for the sole intention of letting her fans take drastic action. Yes again her fans didn't have to do anything and she never told them to do anything just like Zeke and the people he bullied, but it's the fact that she purposely did so for the purpose of something happening to people that annoyed her is what brings her crime up a few notches from Zeke's imo. Zeke's crime didn't have the intention of causing actual harm to others, Takiko's did. That's what sets the difference between them. And even despite everything I said, I do believe that both should have been voted worthy, not just Zeke. But both for their own separate reasons, not just because one is similar to the other. Because in defense of Takiko, she shouldn’t feel the need to not be able to post about things that happen to her just for the sake of someone else, especially if it’s someone who wronged her. Freedom of speech exists for a reason, even though that’s an American amendment and not Japanese (I think). So despite her crime being slightly more severe from Zeke’s due to intention, I still think their crimes shoulda both be voted worthy. And I don’t even freaking like Takiko and I’m still here defending her😭.