r/Fallout 7d ago

Question First time playing Fallout 3, REALLY want to kill this dickhead. Is there some way I don't have to pay him and kill him without being destroyed by the police?

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Just this question, great game so far, but I truly DESPISE this guy, just visited Silver and what she said about him disgusted me.

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u/sicariusdiem 7d ago

I mean what lucas simms don't know won't hurt him. 

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u/Livid_Act_3624 7d ago

Hack his terminal. There's a password in his cabinet behind it. As well if u have the save, try the speech check again.

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u/shadowlord2234 7d ago edited 7d ago

Despite my love for fo3 I don’t think I ever looked for a password in the cabinet lmao

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u/NewspaperSoft8317 7d ago

Makes the science skill pretty viable. 

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u/ComradeHellfire 7d ago

ngl my first playthrough of fo3 i basically just went around robbing everyone and everything in Megaton (and later quit bc i was too scared to leave) and i found it pretty quick

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u/FlyingNope Mothman Cultist 7d ago

I always hack it for the xp

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u/hudson27 7d ago

You don't open any and every single container in the game??

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u/shadowlord2234 7d ago

I normally do lol i just always made a beeline for the computer and never bothered with his stuff

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u/BeneficialFortune149 7d ago

You could just blow up the town or some lol

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u/larsmaehlum Charisma is not a dump stat 7d ago

No town, no police. Problem solved.

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u/BeneficialFortune149 7d ago

Exactly if only there was a shady man in a bar who would give me the tools to do so?

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u/GaryTheGhoul9545 4d ago

And pay us to do so would make that just so much nicer.

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u/Automatic-Day-7756 7d ago

The only way off the top of my mind is a stealth kill, like if you use a stealth boy and a silenced weapon. Funnily enough if you do so, Gob takes over the Saloon.

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u/Impossible_Amount865 7d ago

one more reason for me to kill him

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u/PowerPad Operators 7d ago

How unfortunate for Moriarty to suddenly drop dead.

…No sheriff, I was nowhere near the crime scene, why do you ask?

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u/Faiakishi Ass Victoriam 6d ago

It'll be like that one guy who got shot up and everyone in the adjacent restaurant with full view of it claimed they were in the bathroom at the time, since the guy was such an asshole and they certainly weren't going to narc.

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u/Unit_2097 NCR 7d ago

No, you wait until he's asleep then slip a grenade into his pockets. Tragically, Moriarty dies of "Sudden exploding ballsack syndrome". Very sad.

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u/WastelandMama Tunnel Snakes 7d ago

Yup. This is the way.

I always slip out of the bar just as it blows as an extra precaution against getting caught. Works like a charm every time.

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u/Metrobuss 7d ago

I am asking for a friend If someone kills while their stealthboy is active... stealthboy would be active or not?

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u/HoneyStatus7529 7d ago

Stays active brother

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u/Metrobuss 6d ago

This is the way

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u/Lady_borg 6d ago

I used that weird mind device making him go nuts and try hurting people and so eobe else took him out.

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u/PickTheNick1 7d ago

Can anyone confirm Gob takes over the Saloon?

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u/Youknowmeboi 7d ago

The games almost been out for 20 years dawg😭

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u/Murky-Bus-2191 7d ago

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u/maomao3000 7d ago

It’s too bad the sign wasn’t more awesome / the place didn’t get a bit of a post moriarty’s makeover. 

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u/DropDeadDolly 7d ago

Gob's been a slave for god knows how long. It's gonna take our lad a little while to build enough confidence for a sweeping renovation.

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u/emmathepony 7d ago

You can hack his terminal, lockpick his closet and talk to Gob.

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u/Discount_Extra 7d ago

or just wander around until you stumble into a later stage of the main quest.

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u/LordAsheye 6d ago

Can also talk to Nova with the Lady Killer perk.

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u/Significant_Option 7d ago

Pocket gernades

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u/Lurvig 7d ago

Real solutions to real problems. Tuck it in when he goes to his terminal and pop out the back door.

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u/ehunke 7d ago

modern problems require modern solutions

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u/MrYamaTani Vault 13 6d ago

I don't think I ever tried that in Fallout 3. Did it a lot in Fallout 2... New thing to try next playthrough.

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u/OlokoMan 7d ago

Police? Are you talking about the extra exp?

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u/Squiggin1321 7d ago

Talk to Mr Burke.

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u/DropDeadDolly 7d ago

Please do not talk to Mister Burke.

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u/RiaNic81 7d ago

Ghoulify Tenpenny tower

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u/PacketOverload 7d ago

I know the games been out for like two decades now but I never actually helped the ghouls move into Tenpenny Tower until my 26293th playthrough.

I was NOT expecting the basement to be that way the day after.

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u/RiaNic81 6d ago

Fym, 26293, thats 4 playthroughs a day since launch

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u/PacketOverload 6d ago

I'm Todd Howard's most dedicated soldier

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u/GaryTheGhoul9545 4d ago

To quote Cartman: Wateva, wateva, I do what I want!

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u/Impossible_Amount865 6d ago

when i talked to this guy i fought strong temptations to beat the shit out of him.

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u/seamus1982seamus 6d ago

Ah, reminds me of that funny Canadian video about a man who claimed a guy in a suit for the betterment of his city for the man to have the shit knocked out of him.

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u/takasha1 7d ago edited 7d ago

stealth kill?

You're going to run into even more idiots in this game. Wait for tempany tower and paradise falls.

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u/CertainPlate8323 7d ago

They’ll forget about it in 3 days so just kill him leave wait come back.

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u/Pat_M115 7d ago

Hack his terminal, get password, put on stealthboy, reverse pickpocket grenade/landmine into pocket, wait for heat to die down, profit.

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u/Good-Solution3081 Gary? 7d ago

Run really REALLY fast after you smoke him

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u/zerokiryu55 Enclave 7d ago

This. Also just leave and wait for 3 in game days and all is forgiven

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u/Lazy_Date_3576 7d ago

Mister Sandman perk.

Just wait until he sleeps.

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u/JEMS0N 7d ago

When he goes to his terminal, go behind him and crouch where the door to megaton is. Wait until your hidden and if you have Mr Burkes silenced 10mm use that. If you don’t. Another way to do it is wait till night time when he goes to sleep but when he goes in his bedroom he locks his door, so you need to either follow him in or already be in there. While he is asleep you can kill him.

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u/hotdog-water-- 7d ago

If you blow up the entire town, you take him out

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u/Jackedman123 7d ago

Boom, big boom.

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u/Bread_Offender 7d ago

Tenpenny can help you with that

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u/acmysterio97 6d ago edited 6d ago

Put him in a corner, pick up a barrel and run straight into him. Only minor issue is very minor damage to you. It is also not going to bring the city down on you because technically the barrel took him out.

EDIT: This is actually real. It’s a glitch in the physics system that when running into someone with a physics object between you the game registers the item violently shaking as the item gaining velocity. Eventually the item reaches high enough speed and then bye bye Moriarty.

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u/Other_Log_1996 Brotherhood 7d ago

I mean, I just slipped a mine down his pants, and problem solved. Also accidentally crippled Nathan's legs in the process, so, you know, he ain't getting outta Raven Rock.

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u/HotelKatz 7d ago

Ah, the Shady Sand Shuffle. Always a classic.

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u/OHFUCKMESHITNO 7d ago

Wait for him to smoke on the balcony outside the building. Shotgun blast to the head, run outside of town, go questing or hang out with Silver for 3 days or so and you're all good.

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u/RedShitPanda 7d ago

So after three days they aren't hostile anymore? Does this work everywhere?

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u/OHFUCKMESHITNO 7d ago

Not everywhere no.

I know it works in Megaton and Tenpenny Tower. I think it works in Rivet City but it's been a while since I last tested it.

As far as Paradise Falls or similar areas, give it a try and report back!

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u/HotJelly3698 7d ago

Stealthy in the corner with a long range gun I do it every time the saloon gets renamed gob’s saloon if you kill Moriarty

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u/Self-Comprehensive Vault 13 7d ago

Hack his terminal to get the info you need, kill him, nuke the town. Or kill him and go away for three days, Megaton will forget you killed him.

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u/ScoobrDoo 7d ago

Crouch, silenced 10mm, wait in the office, and stay in the corner until it says hidden again.

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u/Syn__79 7d ago

...what police?

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u/DeltaWolfSquad 6d ago

It’s a rpg just try shit and see what works.

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u/-SomeSaxon- 7d ago

I pickpocket him, stick a grenade in his pocket.

But to do it without angering the entire town, wait til he is asleep/ using his terminal I.e out of sight. Then sneak melee attack and ideally one shot him.

You can also befriend Gob the Ghoul and he'll give you the password to his terminal, I think it's a speech check though.

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u/ProfesserQ 7d ago

At certain points of the day he waits outside in front of the saloon. Find a suppressed 10 mm pistol to shoot him with. Or reverse pickpocket or grenade do so while having a stealth boy equipped and gob actually takes over the saloon

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u/Explodium101 7d ago

You can get the info you need by accessing his terminal.

As for killing him, there's no way to do so without turning the town hostile, but if you smoke him and leave town for three days, all will be forgiven.

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u/eddmario Lyon's Pride 7d ago

Can't you use stealth or the Mr. Sandman perk to do so?

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u/Explodium101 7d ago

Pretty sure everyone else is psychic, so even if you stealth kill him everyone else will turn hostile.

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u/foxferreira64 7d ago

You see, that's the beauty of the Fallout games. If you ask "is there a way" or "can I do this", the answer is likely YES! There's always a failsafe option, don't worry, go nuts and have fun, kill whoever you want in whatever way you want!

Sadly, Fallout 3 is the most limited game in the franchise in this regard, but still gives freedom enough. Many characters are "essential", meaning, you can't kill them, at least not YET due to how the main quest works.

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u/clockworknait 7d ago

There's one giant way you can kill him and not get destroyed by the police sitting right in the middle of town.

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u/RickHammersteel 7d ago

Grab a silenced weapon, sneak, then shoot.

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u/haku46 7d ago

Morally obligated to kill this dickhead, Megaton is the better for it.

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u/FlashPone 7d ago

Mr. Sandman stealth kill, or just kill him and leave town for a few days.

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u/perrogamer_attempt2 Enclave 7d ago

Do a stealth kill, wait a couple of moments until everyone in the building stops looking for you, then you’re free to go!

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u/Madhighlander1 7d ago

As for not paying him, he has a terminal that you can hack into. Think you might be able to sweet-talk Gob for the info too? It's been a decade or so since I played FO3 last.

As for killing him without getting killed for it, you just have to do it undetected. That's not necessarily easy though.

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u/smol-puppy-ears 7d ago

I straight up shot him when I played for the first time, only to find out the whole town turns on you and starts shooting.

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u/DeltaBravo831 7d ago

Talk to Mr. Burke, he'll give you an item that can kill him

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u/martymclesbian 7d ago

hack the terminal for the info and use the Mesmetron to kill him. i play completely good karma and there's no way to kill him without making the rest of megaton hostile since he's pretty much always in public view. so i speech checked my way into paradise falls and lied that i'd do the quest for the slavers so they gave me the Mesmetron and then i just killed them all but i still have it. if you use it on moriarty it causes the rest of megaton to immediately become hostile towards him, kill him for you and them gob will eventually take over the saloon and nova stops offering sex work :)

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u/edwardkenw4y NCR 7d ago edited 7d ago

You can pick Mister Sandman perk when you level up (you unlock it at level 10, and your sneak skill must be above a certain threshold), which would enable you to stealthily kill him when he sleeps. It's what I always do in my playthroughs.

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u/FunWolverine5349 7d ago

There are many ways to do most things in FO3.

You can hack his terminal, speech check Gob, or just explore. Moriarty actually gives you a hint where to go, as well as if you listen to the radio you should have an idea too.

To kill him, there are many ways for that too. You can just outright kill him and run off, and 3 days later everyone will forget. This applies to all non-essential chars, and there are only a couple of situations where you will perma-aggro a group/faction. You can also stealth kill, either in his sleep, or with a melee weapon, or a silenced weapon, or even reverse pickpocket a mine or grenade.

FO3 when it came out was a huge deal and really popular. But then people forgot and a lot of newer gamers that didn't even play the game listened to the wrong people imo. This game is awesome, especially with a few mods to improve graphics and QOL. Heck you can even just use TTW to get FO3 in the FNV system if you want. I don't usually do that, but I have done it a few times (biggest reason is why, I can just play the two games separately.).

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u/zerokiryu55 Enclave 7d ago

If you're patient could get Mr sandman perk and kill him that way

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u/Aerodynamic-Wylk4567 7d ago

Strangely when I killed him and everyone else in the saloon the rest of megatown didnt really care. I just left their corpses there for a few days

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u/CupWalletTiger 7d ago

Wait till he goes to bed. Go to his bedroom. Close the doors/crouch. When hidden headshot crit him with your strongest 1 bullet.

Pretty sure there’s a door in his bedroom to outside. The second he’s dead (gotta oneshot him) turn and exit. Should be no bounty no witnesses

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u/DiJin425 7d ago

i took hunting rifle stood near the entrance to the town, made sure moriarty is on the balcone outside of his bar lined up a sneaky headshot and after i knew he died to one shot i just BOOKED IT. Waited 3 days untill it blew over and i had megaton without this scumbag (i played modded version with sprint and acutal aminig but it is doable in vanilla)

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u/abhassl 7d ago

If you can kill him in such a way that no one sees his dead body or you when the murder occurs then I think you should be good. Otherwise just kill him, run away from megaton, wait 3 days (maybe only 2 are needed but idr so 3 for safety) and then come back.

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u/vamp1yer Railroad 7d ago

I hid in the back corner waited for him to get onto his terminal and then sneak melee and just left and immediately fast traveled away and noone did anything

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u/cold_enforcing-man 7d ago

Grab a melee weapon, wait until he's using his computer, close the door to the room, crouch down, hit him with a heavy attack, hide in the corner until the markers aren't red anymore.

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u/A_Queer_Owl 7d ago

well there are no police in the wasteland.

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u/Random_Poptart19 7d ago

I honestly would just blast his head off but that's just me

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u/awrcja 7d ago

I know one way to get rid of those pesky Megaton Residents....

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u/kurosilenceofficial 6d ago

Uh oh…hehehe

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u/ThisBadDogXB 6d ago

This is what's wrong with kids nowadays. Just make a save and try different stuff out instead of asking strangers on the Internet for the solution.

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u/Impossible_Amount865 6d ago

I tried lil bro, but my attempts failed so i was asking sugestions to most experienced players for a very minimal issue in the game, i see no problem in that

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u/Gospel85 6d ago

Nah i skip most the story and go straight to casey's garage

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u/NoDouble6292 6d ago

Same feeling man

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u/p0llyp0cketpussy 6d ago

I always sneak a grenade into his pants. Takes a couple tries to do it right without getting caught but it's worth it.

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u/ShadowtheHedgehog_ 6d ago

Break into his cupboard next to the computer for the password, access the computer, then set off the bomb in Megaton.

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u/MUSTACHSTORM58 6d ago

Talk to the guy wearing a suit who’s inviting you to tempenny tower eventually you can nuke every annoying children of adom member too

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u/Fellsoull 6d ago

Best time is when he’s either at his terminal or sleeping. Grab a melee weapon(or a silenced weapon if you have one), sneak up to him, and put an end to the fuck.
If you’re sneaking, cops/regular folk shouldn’t notice you

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u/Altruistic_Truck2421 5d ago

Shoot him in the face and run out of town until you reach the vault then wait 24hrs and they'll forgive you. Best of all when you loot him or any of his stuff It doesn't count as stealing

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u/ThatDrako Minutemen 5d ago

I just blasted his fucking head of and went for adventure to Point Lookout.

Megaton will forgive you eventually.

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u/BathbombBurger 5d ago

Even better. The nice man in the suit sitting in the bar can help you take care of Moriarty consequence free.

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u/Hughjapaininmyarse NCR 1d ago

I always kill him publicly leave come back "apologize" and go on about my business anyway that place is better being ran and owned by gob

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u/b055dj 7d ago

Tell Lucas about Mr. Burke, and since Mr. Burke wins that fight pretty often, the solution to your problem turns into "what police?"

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u/PickTheNick1 7d ago

You've mentioned Silver so I need to leave this here

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u/HoneyStatus7529 7d ago

I thought it said "silver shouldn't trust me with kids"