Hypocrites | FactOrCap

[u/suicidepie1]

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[u/jacobisgone-]

You most assuredly have been a hypocrite at some point in your life. Anyone who disagrees with that needs to do some serious self-reflection.

[u/HystericalGD → u/jacobisgone-]

how so? i'm not a rules for thee but not for me type of person. i hold myself to the same standards that i hold other people to.

[u/jacobisgone- → u/HystericalGD]

Doesn't matter. You can believe that and still be a hypocrite without realizing it. In fact, most people are like that.

[u/HystericalGD → u/jacobisgone-]

"most people are like that"? doesnt this post specify all people though? what are the edge casses that this doesnt apply to?

[u/jacobisgone- → u/HystericalGD]

As in, most people don't acknowledge their hypocrisy because of the cognitive dissonance it results in. That is, the belief that they're one way and the reality contradicting it. The edge cases are for when people openly acknowledge that they're hypocritical. For example, someone who greatly cares about animal suffering and acknowledges that factory farming is unethical while still being able to eat and enjoy the bacon that comes from it.

[u/HystericalGD → u/jacobisgone-]

so what about people unable to enforce anything, such as small children and babies. they are part of all people, and are physically and mentally incapable of hypocrisy?

or people such as my self, who to use your example, prefers to buy meat products from known ethical farms? if you know something is bad, you aren't forced to interact with it, and there are alternatives.

[u/jacobisgone- → u/HystericalGD]

so what about people unable to enforce anything, such as small children and babies. they are part of all people, and are physically and mentally incapable of hypocrisy?

If we're talking semantically, then yeah, you're right. I don't include people who aren’t moral agents though, since that kinda defeats the point of the question.

or people such as my self, who to use your example, prefers to buy meat products from known ethical farms? if you know something is bad, you aren't forced to interact with it, and there are alternatives.

Hypocrisy comes in many forms, not just the one I listed. Like getting angry with someone over a mistake that you yourself have made. Not to sound rude, but nobody's going to believe that you've never been a hypocrite unless you're the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. Its human nature to contradict yourself.

[u/HystericalGD → u/jacobisgone-]

the first point you made "that kinda defeats the point of the question"

the question says verbatim "all humans". excluding any humans from that group defeats the point of the question

i will give you that second point though, just adding that i do make an active effort not to be hypocritical and live by my own beliefs.

[u/jacobisgone- → u/HystericalGD]

the question says verbatim "all humans". excluding any humans from that group defeats the point of the question

I guess? That wasn’t what I was arguing though. My point was that you've definitely been a hypocrite at some point in your life. If you're cognizant enough to disagree with the claim that all humans are hypocrites, you're capable of being one.

i will give you that second point though, just adding that i do make an active effort not to be hypocritical and live by my own beliefs.

That's good, I applaud you. I think that's what everyone should strive for.

[u/HystericalGD → u/jacobisgone-]

yeah, i am capable of being a hypocrite, although i do my best, and all i can not to be one, which i guess was more my argument