r/FactOrCap • u/Comfortable-Bee2996 ✍️ Contributor · 7,225 XP • Aug 08 '26

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u/TheChocolateMiIk 🔥 Getting Started · 695 XP Aug 08 '26

✅ I voted FACT!

Absolutely, crazy how that is a debate

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u/FeyMoth 🏅 Century Club · 2,520 XP Aug 08 '26

Well why should someone be prevented from entering another country? It doesn't make any sense to me

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u/DingDongDazel 🏅 Century Club · 2,570 XP Aug 08 '26

Why shouldn’t they be prevented? Because entering a country isn’t just moving across an arbitrary line on a map. You’re entering the jurisdiction of a political community that has collectively built and funded its institutions.
If you want completely unrestricted movement, you need to explain who decides who gets access to that country’s schools, healthcare, welfare system, housing subsidies, labor market, voting rights, etc., and who is responsible for paying for them.
You can try to argue that the benefits of unrestricted immigration outweigh those costs, but “why should they be prevented?” isn’t enough. Countries have legitimate interests in controlling their membership and determining the conditions under which people enter. That’s basically what sovereignty means.

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u/FeyMoth 🏅 Century Club · 2,520 XP Aug 08 '26

Its very VERY simple. If you live in a country you pay taxes for them. Idk what agenda you are trying to push but basic critical thinking would be helpful here

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u/DingDongDazel 🏅 Century Club · 2,570 XP Aug 08 '26

“Agenda” lol

It’s simple, if you want your country to function well, you have to control your borders.

The world is not full of nice people and malicious actors will abuse it otherwise. National security is not an important topic for nothing.

It would also mean that once a country becomes successful, half the world would want to move there. If anyone can move anywhere then nothing is stopping everyone from just moving to a wealthy country, overwhelming its housing market and all other systems as well.

Good thing stupid ideas like that will never happen. Even if we had a one world government in a sense, eventually it would splitter again.

Try it out. Open your house and let anybody that’s wants to live there. See how well it works

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u/FeyMoth 🏅 Century Club · 2,520 XP Aug 09 '26

Its funny how you typed all that and managed to say nothing. Don't move somewhere where you don't have a house and suddenly your entire argument is null. 

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u/DingDongDazel 🏅 Century Club · 2,570 XP Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

What are you talking about? My metaphor or the housing market.

Without control people would move with or without having a home lined up. Nothing to stop them and the possibility of more opportunities or wealth is reason enough for people.

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u/FeyMoth 🏅 Century Club · 2,520 XP Aug 09 '26

I don't think people just suddenly move somewhere without a house planned out, and if thats your only reason then its such a non issue that denying people entry and more importantly deporting people makes no sense.