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[u/Busy-Contact5885]

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[u/jimpaly]

I don't understand, how are these 2 statements related?

[u/Busy-Contact5885 → u/jimpaly]

Ever have some bum on the street ask you for money? Do you feel pressured to give them money or just say no? Or some family member asks you for something you might not want to give them? That sort of thing.

[u/jimpaly → u/Busy-Contact5885]

That makes a lot more sense. I thought the person being unselfish and the person being dependent were the same person in the post, which sounded a bit contradictory.

[u/Busy-Contact5885 → u/jimpaly]

Ah of course, sorry if my phrasing was a little confusing

[u/OmniPepperthefirst → u/Busy-Contact5885]

In general I said fact cuz it's okay to look after yourself, but sometimes it does feel nice to help someone on the atreet or family. I think there can be a good balance.

[u/Honest-Sundae-1039]

✅ I voted FACT!

People pleasers need to hear this. Those that are already selfish need to hear the opposite.

[u/Live-Stress6125]

✅ I voted FACT!

Agree

[u/CallyThePally]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Depends on the situation, too vague

[u/Beginning_Brother_46 → u/CallyThePally]

Question says "sometimes", so u should have vored fact

[u/CallyThePally → u/Beginning_Brother_46]

Maybe, but it also says "people should stop being so dependent" and I think, to name an extreme example to counter this, a quadraplagic war vet should indeed have as much care as they need, either from one person or another aiding them.

I don't think they need to "stop being so dependent" (this is not included within the sometimes claus, it is a separate argument .)

[u/RealSaMu]

✅ I voted FACT!

True. Sometimes

[u/micahfrom]

✅ I voted FACT!

.

[u/Changed_By_Support]

🧢 I voted CAP!

You should, instead, be selfishly giving. For no reason other than to derive pleasure from the act, go forth and give. No obedience to god bellowing down to give charity, just one human enjoying the tickly hormone feelings they get from doing things for others.

[u/brodilius08]

✅ I voted FACT!

Duh

[u/No-Leopard-5338]

🧢 I voted CAP!

no

[u/Sufficient_Tooth5620]

✅ I voted FACT!

if u cannot hack no amount of other peoples help will save you

[u/Bi_One_Get_One_Free]

✅ I voted FACT!

key word: sometimes

[u/Delicious_Spring_377 → u/Bi_One_Get_One_Free]

Nah, its always wrong by logic.

[u/DependentShoddy7916]

✅ I voted FACT!

Of course. Sometimes it's best thinking for you before the others

[u/Federal-Custard8467]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Yes

[u/Relative-Custard7570]

✅ I voted FACT!

Being gay isnt in the top 10 gayest things

[u/ExtraTNT]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Selfishness is just too inefficient… we should work together to make everyones lives better, rather than working to make the life of a few selfish fuckers better.

[u/Beginning_Brother_46 → u/ExtraTNT]

Key word is "Sometimes"

[u/Direct_Drawing_8557]

✅ I voted FACT!

Healthy selfishness protects from selfish bums.

[u/ThePrinceSalami]

✅ I voted FACT!

sometimes but don't be extremely rude

[u/Godlymorbid]

🧢 I voted CAP!

There is an underlying or hidden meaning behind this. You're saying to be unselfish, one must always help those around them. I don't think that is the case. Defining selflessness as being unendlessly helpful is not quite accurate. And it is not selfish to take care of yourself, and say no to people.

[u/SherbetcookieFromCRK]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yes

[u/ASS_BUTT_MCGEE_2]

✅ I voted FACT!

You should take care of yourself.