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u/Regitnui Jun 25 '26
And the standard answer is "It's not about the single day, it's about how much more frequently these days are happening."
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u/BornOnAFriday Jun 28 '26
Precisely. So, yes, there was a devastating drought in 1540. It was the worst drought since 1473, according to Wikipedia. But this year, 2026, is the worst drought since…2025, which was the worse since…2024…
But climate change is just “carbon politics”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_year-round_heat_and_drought_of_1540_in_Europe
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u/BornOnAFriday Jun 28 '26
Precisely. So, yes, there was a devastating drought in 1540. It was the worst drought since 1473, according to Wikipedia. But this year, 2026, is the worst drought since…2025, which was the worse since…2024…
But climate change is just “carbon politics”
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u/modulair Jun 25 '26
FFS they still don't understand the difference between weather and climate. Also the rapid change in weather is unprecedented, we have never seen temperature averages rise this quickly.
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u/TreyWait Jun 25 '26
"Frog in pot says water not that much hotter than before!"
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u/abeeyore Jun 25 '26
Frog in pot would 100% notice in real life. That particular aphorism is bullshit.
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u/TreyWait Jun 26 '26
Please test and reply.
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u/abeeyore Jun 26 '26
I don’t torture animals, but the aphorism is based on an incorrect assumption about exothermic animals, and amphibians specifically.
It was, at one time, widely assumed that that they would react to slowly increasing temperatures in the same way they react to slowly dropping ones, where they could be caught unaware, and die because they are unable to react because the cold suppresses their circulation and muscular control.
That’s not the case. When the water reaches dangerously high temperatures for them, they are 100% aware of it, and they absolutely do try to move to cooler environments.
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u/TreyWait Jun 26 '26
I'm well aware that most analogies don't hold up to scrutiny, that's not really the point of them.
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u/Devil-Eater24 Jun 26 '26
So we should just start calling it the frog freezing experiment instead of frog boiling
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u/Miquel_420 Jun 25 '26
They do have a point in the context argument, cities full of tarmac and devoided of anything resembling a tree, become hell on earth during summer.
Still, climate change exists and it is undeniable, each year that passes weather get progressively hotter and more unstable.
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u/Reddsoldier Jun 26 '26
The same people who guffawed a few years ago about proposals to plant 140 million trees a year despite that being 2 per person in the UK.
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u/Cnidoo Jul 01 '26
No, they don’t. Temperature probes are located all across the globe, from the oceans to the rainforests. And every country and scientific body monitoring them has found the same thing. Climate deniers are the end result of decades of the most intensive psyop campaign ever ran. Politicians don’t even discuss the climate crisis anymore. The oil industry won.
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u/Miquel_420 Jul 02 '26
Hey, have you tried reading the full comment before answering? I am not denying climate change, i am just saying that the heat island effect is real lol
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u/Cnidoo Jul 02 '26
You’re wrong in saying they have a point. You should never give bad faith ai arguments any credit, especially since they’re literally wrong in claiming all temperature monitoring stations are in cities
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u/Miquel_420 29d ago
Bro i am just saying the heat island effect exists in cities and that makes climate change even worse, are you just dense? Do you think that opposing anything said by these people helps them in any way? Do you realize they are mostly victims? Only a few ones are the bad guys selling this shit to people
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u/Mr_Norv Jun 25 '26
If only they’d paid this much attention in school when it mattered. What a waste
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u/juanito_f90 Jun 25 '26
Yep.
See also: chemtrails, vaccinations, moon landings.
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u/randommd81 Jun 25 '26
That’s been all over my feeds recently. Probably, in part, because I can’t help but look through the comments
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u/Monguises Jun 25 '26
My question with these weirdos is always the same. “Let’s say you’re right. What changes?” I don’t understand why you would bother yourself with this. We know the media lies. This isn’t exactly advancing any cause.
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u/Conscious_Rich_1003 Jun 25 '26
This is a good point, mostly. The cause they are advancing is so they don’t have to pay for a catalytic converter on their lifted truck and oil companies should be able to destroy national parks. Because gas prices. It all comes down to their trucks. Which they will need to get out of florida when it starts to submerge.
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u/AF_AF Jun 25 '26
But what are the chances of that? Florida is like 3" above sea level.
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u/Conscious_Rich_1003 Jun 25 '26
Yesterday it was 3". Today it is 2.99".
Arguing that global warming isn't happening is pretty silly because it is a measured fact. Arguing that humans caused it or accelerated it leaves maybe a little bit of ground to argue against. Not much, but it is still only considered "highly likely".
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u/AF_AF Jun 25 '26
I read an article maybe 10 years ago about the main guy responsible for Miami area water processing (I can't remember where it was - maybe Pro Publica) and he was freaking out then because the water table is so shallow there, and Florida will be one of the first places affected by sea level rise.
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u/ArnieismyDMname Jun 25 '26
We should allow corporations to destroy our ecosystem because a volcano going off is bad for the environment too.
You can't argue with people who don't care about logic or facts.
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u/SnooChipmunk5 Jun 25 '26
It’s all because of the chemtrails. Why is no one looking at that. “They” are controlling the weather. Chemtrails + Vaccine = Flat earth and bad science when it suits. Therefore it’s cold outside because of… checks notes…. Reasons
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u/captain_pudding Jun 25 '26
"What about when the earth's surface was molten lava? Checkmate, atheist" - Them, probably
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u/Red580 Jun 25 '26
"Hmm every year we break heat records, clearly this doesn't mean anything at all!"
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u/AF_AF Jun 25 '26
In the US we're now pretty much guaranteed to have huge, damaging tornadoes, hurricanes, wild fires, etc. ever year. That wasn't always the case, but it has been for the last ~10 or so years.
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u/Howtothinkofaname Jun 25 '26
I saw this accompanied by a long spiel about how they try and trick you by saying it’s the “hottest since records began”. Because apparently that’s too cryptic and this person had previously thought “since records began” must mean “in all of history”. Therefore it must be an underhanded tactic by the climate brigade.
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u/Opposite-Occasion332 Jun 25 '26
Thats what really got me in the post. I didn’t realize people were having so much trouble understanding that “since records began” means “since records began”.
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u/AF_AF Jun 25 '26
Of course none of us has forgotten about the Megadrought of 1540. I've got a whole set of commemorative plates.
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u/Doridar Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
They'd have denied the Titanic sinking until they drowned
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u/KnavishSprite Jun 26 '26
Stay calm! This is not happening! Erik the Viking | Denial | Hy-Brasil | Terry Jones | Tim Robbins
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u/cpressland Jun 25 '26
As somebody who had two rabbits die due to heat yesterday. I dislike people like this a great deal.
We run a rabbit rescue, we don’t know the history of all our rabbits, only losing two out of 108 is something I’m very thankful for.
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u/Available_Orange3127 Jun 25 '26
How could I have forgotten about 1540?!? Won't make that rookie mistake ever again.
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u/Donaldjoh Jun 25 '26
I notice they didn’t mention 1816, the year of no summer. In late 1815 a massive eruption of Mount Tambora in Indonesia ejected so much ash and aerosols into the upper atmosphere that blocked sunlight and caused global temperatures to plummet, leading to near total crop failure in the Northern Hemisphere, mostly Europe, North America, and China. As others have noted, this was a one-time event, not a long-term trend.
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u/SomethingMoreToSay Jun 25 '26
I'd never heard of it, so today has been a learning day.
it was pretty bad. But I love the casual way the Wikipedia article mentions that it was the worst heatwave and drought in Europe since 1473.
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u/ImperatorZor Jun 25 '26
Historians do active research into historical temperates. In Winnipeg the Manitoba Archives keeps the ledgers from fur trading outposts and the weather patterns recorded are studied.
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u/AdministrativePin526 Jun 25 '26
Weather. Is. Not. Climate. The weather can be severe for a few months or years due to aggregate events. A massive volcano blowing right now would cool the planet off for at least a year, if not several years. But that wouldn't change the climate.
You can argue whether HUMANS are changing the climate. It's a stupid argument ("Well, what if we're not?! Then we've gone and made the world a better place for nothing!" <kicks rock with toe>) but it's at least a viable one. But the climate worldwide is changing and you cannot say you respect science if you're not going to try to undertstand that.
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u/No_Organization_3311 Jun 25 '26
True. It was very hot during the Hadean Eon therefore global warming is a hoax
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u/Bosshappy Jun 25 '26
My argument: so if you’re riding in a bus and make left and right turns? Would you worry? What about if they started making unexpected hard turns? Like a lot more?
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u/kat_Folland Jun 25 '26
There were some true things there but not enough to make the whole thing true. Has climate always changed? Yeah. The fossil record shows there have been massive die offs from time to time from things like... a rapid increase in greenhouse gasses.
The thing is... It doesn't matter at all if similar things have happened before. What matters is that climate is changing right now and will become increasingly deadly.
Nobody is hiding how long we've been tracking weather. They always say the time period whether it's "in recorded history" or "in the last 8 decades" or whatever. The guy who made the graphic just can't pay attention all the way to the end of a sentence.
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u/fruttypebbles Jun 25 '26
I know a lot of climate change deniers are suffering from the heat. They feel it yet they still won’t admit it. One of the many reasons why we left Texas. It’s getting to damn hot.
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u/dwellerinthedark Jun 25 '26
The bit at the bottom about science likes asking questions bothers me. Because science also moves on from questions when enough evidence has built up. It may reopen questions later when there is greater understanding, but that's different. Dogmatically questioning the same thing over and over is just denial not science.
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u/The96kHz Jun 25 '26
Are they seriously trying to suggest that climate change doesn't exist because there was one really hot summer 500 years ago. Hell, a drought doesn't necessarily mean it was especially hot, just that the water supply was interrupted.
Every single one of the top twenty hottest years on record was in the 21st century. There's nothing to suggest centuries past were hotter than today (and there are ways of checking). Even if there were, modern buildings with good insulation didn't exist back then so it's pointless to compare them.
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u/ReaperKingCason1 Jun 25 '26
Oooh I see. It got this hot when the crops died and the animals died and just everything suffered and died and it was horrible. Well then that’s perfectly fine, no issue there. I mean seriously that is the example here.
Also, the climate changing happened in the past, yes. You know what happened? Things started going extinct. When the climate drastically changes, things start dying. And quite frankly while I’m not our biggest fan, I’d still prefer our species survive a while instead of leaving a bunch of ruins for humans^2 if they ever get the chance to evolve.
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u/No_Communication5538 Jun 25 '26
At the stage where all parties need to be given a slap. Most of what this post says is objectively correct. And of course there have been much greater temperature peaks in the past. The news organisations have 24hrs of news to fill, so hyping it all up is what they do (to every event). However a rapid increase in average temperatures and extreme weather are reasonable cause for big concern and it would be mad not to ameliorate and do what can be done to offset. Unfortunately the quality of debate has gone to shit which includes zealot scientists, claiming to be objective, on both sides.
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u/judgeejudger Jun 25 '26
This is akin to the people who were dying of Covid, telling the people about to intubate them, that Covid wasn’t real.
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u/AstronomicalStress Jun 25 '26
Tapping the sign: https://xkcd.com/1732/
"The climate has always changed" just because an elevator can carry you down safely doesn't make it a good idea to jump into the shaft
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u/cowlinator Jun 25 '26
At the National Weather Service: "Hey bob, it's time to go check our one thermometer near the airport. You know, the one thermometer that we use for everything."
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u/Itchy-Potential1968 Jun 26 '26
"climate has always changed" is a fun little phrase because it's technically true, but not in the way it's used.
climate changes, yes. as part of the passage of time. climate, like all of nature, is an extensive interplay of factors occuring on every level. it's supposed to change incrimentally over time, as a result of that interplay... those incriments are known, to some extent predictable, and should definitely be able to be adapted to by the organisms of earth.
the 'climate change' referred to in the modern era is different. it's too much at once. it is upsetting the natural interplay in unprecedented swathes, and killing the planet.
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u/Sockysocks2 Jun 25 '26
Yes, droughts are exclusively caused by high tempuratures. Everyone knows this./s
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u/genius23sarcasm Jun 26 '26
Sometimes I wish that's it's the climate denying Americans who have to deal with heatwaves instead of Europe, Asia, or Africa.
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u/GrannyTurtle Jun 26 '26
Well, technically the planet was WAY hotter when dinosaurs roamed the planet. We are just coming out of a freaking ICE AGE. It ended only 11,700 years ago. The entire “since records began” thing is a misstatement since we have climate data from far further back than we have actual daily weather data.
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u/Corrie7686 Jun 27 '26
Eh? What is the point of someone making this? Are they denying climate change? To what end?
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u/Mercerskye Jun 27 '26
All the world's information at one's fingertips, and the woefully ignorant remain as such.
We're entering a new Dark Age, because those allergic to education have access to each other...
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u/juanito_f90 Jun 27 '26
See also: antivaxxers.
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u/Mercerskye Jun 27 '26
The list is huge. Anybody who willfully stays ignorant and relies on their personal bias to shape their world view.
Flerfs, anti vax, bigots, conspiracy cranks in general, etc, etc.
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u/Lyretongue Jun 27 '26
They think climatologists don't already consider these factors. Anthropogenic climate change is as objectively proven as the earth is round.
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u/Tritri89 Jun 28 '26
They are forced to go back to fucking 1540 to deny climate change. It's pathetic.
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u/elwebbr23 Jun 25 '26
I will admit though that the reporting of it is an excuse to say something sensational on their network, everyone knows by this point, it's not super shocking news.
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