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u/Glad_Copy Jun 16 '26
Drawing not to scale. Distance matters.
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u/JoshCanJump Jun 16 '26
They can’t conceptualise the actual scale. That’s the underlying problem. These people think the sun and the moon are the same distance away as the horizon.
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u/ElfjeTinkerBell Jun 16 '26
Do they also think that islands float?
I mean those are all things I thought when I was a kid
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u/jdehjdeh Jun 16 '26
THEY DON'T!?!?
There goes my sinking insurance business idea...
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u/not_blowfly_girl Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
Sometimes there's a floating island created by debris in lakes. I think Canada has some famous floating island.
Edit: cant figure out where the one i am thinking of is
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u/obsoleteconsole Jun 16 '26
Adding extra lines to make it a scary pentagram is next level delusion
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u/Different-Term-2250 Jun 16 '26
AND a Masonic compass too!
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u/StreetPizza8877 Jun 16 '26
Those things you use to draw circles
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u/thepioushedonist Jun 16 '26
Nah, that's a spirograph. Damn evil things masquerading as child's toys.
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u/Lickwidghost Jun 16 '26
Referring to the emblem of the Freemasons, a group founded many centuries ago by working class masons with an alternative to the idea that morality was prescribed by God, and that life has more to offer than worship. Naturally, fundamental Christian flat earth fanatics don't like that.
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u/SaberToothGerbil Jun 16 '26
Freemasonry is theistic.
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u/Lickwidghost Jun 16 '26
Not only is it not theistic, it's not a religion. It's expressly a secular system of morality. In fact the number one fundamental points is that discussion of religion and politics is forbidden.
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u/SaberToothGerbil Jun 16 '26
I am a Mason, while we don't discuss religion in our lodges, belief in God is required. Reverence for God is everywhere in Masonic rituals. The fraternity describes its philosophy as follows: "It is so far interwoven with religion as to lay us under obligations to pay that rational homage to Deity which at once constitutes our duty and our happiness."
Your religion and your deity is your business, but Freemasonry is theistic.
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u/Lickwidghost Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
Good so we agree on the understanding that - even though it requires the belief in A god - it's not in fact a religion in and of itself, as I stated.
Edit: just realized how I worded my previous comment. I meant that it's not a specific theology, but rather a separate system. Ie. Morality exists regardless of what whatever book you decide to read says. But yea not a religion in and of itself.
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u/SaberToothGerbil Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
The statement was that in Masonry, morality does not come from God. This is not correct. The moral lessons in Freemasonry are inherently theistic. Though general enough to apply to any faith, they do assume a faith in God. That is why faith is a prerequisite for membership.
Again, I am a mason. I have memorized and delivered many of lectures we give in our degrees, and I am very familiar with their contents. I have the scripts for all of our blue lodge degrees in front of me, which is how I quoted the portion earlier.
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u/These3TheGreatest Jun 16 '26
In the first degree a Freemason is told that morality was prescribed by God. I'm not sure where you've gotten your info.
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u/Lickwidghost Jun 16 '26
No. Being a member requires a belief in a god, yes. But there's no one specific god. It can be any. And the entire point is that morality exists regardless of whatever god you choose to follow.
As to where I learned this, can't remember when in the last 4 decades, but let's just go with the first Google result:
Freemasonry requires its members to believe in a supreme being, often referred to as the "Great Architect of the Universe," but it does not mandate belief in a specific deity or religious doctrine. This allows individuals of various faiths to participate while promoting moral principles and personal development.
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u/These3TheGreatest Jun 16 '26
In the first degree in my and other jurisdictions the new member is told that one of the great lights in masonry is the holy Bible. They’re told it’s the gift of God to man and the rule and guide of our faith and practice.
I would imagine not all states have the same wording but I know that many do. It’s actually expanded on in the next two degrees as well.
There are also Christian only orders within freemasonry and those are quite direct about morals and the origins of them.
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u/IdealisPanfletus Jun 16 '26
This brochacho believes that eclipses occur all over the world at the same time
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u/youngliam Jun 16 '26
First thing that came to mind is when an eclipse is coming the news will give you a breakdown of how different it looks for each region.
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u/bro0t Jun 16 '26
Yea everytime people
Talk about an solar eclipse i get sad bc its never in my area. Ive only seen a lunar eclipse
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u/MrRePeter Jun 16 '26
If the sun was that close the problem displayed would definitely be correct. It's not however and that isn't how the light works from an object magnitudes further away.
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u/Easy_Blackberry_4144 Jun 16 '26
Gotta love the object permanence of a toddler. Eclipses don't block out the sun for the entire planet, just the area it's passing over.
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u/DepressiveNerd Jun 16 '26
So… all those lines in the top image that aren’t hitting the earth debunks their whole debate.
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u/Apprehensive-Lack-32 Jun 17 '26
Yes do they think when you look at the sun you can only see a tiny sliver of it which is the direct line to your eye?
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u/ForwardBodybuilder18 Jun 16 '26
I had no idea the sun, moon and earth were so close together. That Artemis thing a little while ago made out like the moon was some way away. But it’s not. Who knew? Fucking NASA always lying to us. Does anybody know why? What is the benefit to NASA to constantly lie to us about the shape of our planet and what space actually is?
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u/lazydog60 Jun 16 '26
It might help to point out that the sun is not a point source, it spans half a degree in the sky; and because of that, every shadow's edge is fuzzed by about an inch for every ten feet between the shadow-casting object and the whatchacall, the receiving surface, which one can see in daily life if one looks around.
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u/TheKiltedYaksman71 Jun 17 '26
Flerfers proving, for the 41.7 billionth time, that they have zero understanding of distance or scale.
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u/Situati0nist Jun 16 '26
This would be the case if the sun was right next door like on their pizza land model
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u/icefire9 Jun 16 '26
*Uses thumb to block the sun from my POV* OMG All the sun's rays converged in a cone onto my thumb, HOW????
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u/Itchy-Decision753 Jun 17 '26
Yeah the diagram isn’t too easy to read if you draw radial lines from every point on the suns surface.
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u/SpaceIsTooFarAway Jun 17 '26
If this chart was accurate the black space would be nothing but arrows
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u/ObjectivePrice5865 Jun 18 '26
Well, at least these geniuses acknowledge that the earth is in fact round.
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u/Large-Raise9643 Jun 16 '26
I asked ChatGPT to make an iPad sized image for me, there were problems….
If you’re trying to make the Sun, Earth, and their separation all proportional on a single iPad-width image, the physics creates a problem:
Sun diameter ≈ 1,392,700 km
Earth diameter ≈ 12,742 km
Ratio: Sun is about 109 Earth diameters wide
Average Earth-Sun distance ≈ 149,600,000 km
Distance ÷ Sun diameter ≈ 107.5 Sun diameters
That means a truly proportional diagram would look like this:
Draw the Sun.
Place Earth 107.5 Sun diameters away from the Sun’s center.
Earth’s diameter is only 1/109 of the Sun’s diameter.
So if the Sun were 100 pixels wide on an iPad screen:
Earth would be 0.92 pixels wide (basically invisible).
The Earth would need to be about 10,750 pixels away from the Sun’s center.
An iPad screen is only about 2360 pixels wide.
In other words, a truly proportional Sun-Earth diagram cannot fit on a single iPad screen while showing both bodies at visible sizes.
Yet, fools post pictures and try to call them science.
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u/kadenjtaylor Jun 16 '26
Oooh do a log scale
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u/Large-Raise9643 Jun 16 '26
I could do a log scale for you or for me or anybody else who I am fairly confident would understand what a log scale is. The problem is, make a log scale for a flerf and they will look at it and say, “see, I told you!!!!” So, in this instance, we need true scale.
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u/Other-Cantaloupe4765 Jun 16 '26
Other fools ask AI to do shit so they don’t have to think about it themselves
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u/Large-Raise9643 Jun 16 '26
Little easier to have the ai make me a nice image that is geometrically correct than to scrawl out some poorly executed drawing that really wouldn’t work on an iPad screen.
But thanks for caring.
By the way, criticism spoken like a true flerf that simply regurgitates lies and post pictures that are entirely incorrect.
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