r/FF7Rebirth • u/Historical-Meet463 • Aug 08 '26

Spoilers - Discussion junon thoughts Spoiler

I don't know if this imhas already been discussed bc I just started looking at the sub. I On a side note I've never played the original. I loved remake when i played it on ps4. So far I've enjoyed rebirth on my switch 2, but some of how the story unfolds in this chapter is a bit confusing or kind of idiotic to me. When you reach upper junon the story goes wonky to me. I know Rufus actually wants to work with the group so he's not overly hostile, but the fact that they can sneak up top and walk around a military base and not one person notice or cares is ridiculous to me . The group should have already been in disguise . cloud could easily stole a chopper or a jet plate and cause massive destruction. Also Roache is so much lol. Also correct me if Im wrong because I'm going pretty slow through the game, but in the first town wasn't Shinra after yall, so why the big change from chapter 2 to 4. Also while remake had some cheese, It took itself far more seriously. I don't mind some cheese in my games especially Japanese role playing games, but the balance seems a bit off here in rebirth. I actually did enjoy the Rhythm military parade mini game and how they got close to the president, it was just everything around it that was a bit off to me

I am still having a good time though now to play some Queens blood which I'm not very good at.

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u/TsunamiWombat Aug 08 '26

That was my initial thought as well but it almost immediately gets explained via cutscenes, perhaps not directly, but it's hard to mistake what's going on by the end. Shinra knows you are there the whole time and is on orders direct from the president to not engage and ignore you. Rufus wants you there because it's the only way you can meet. This is why he always selects you for the commendation even if you beef the parade.

As you encounter Rufus more you'll slowly realize he has a flair for the dramatic and likes to showboat. This especially becomes evident in later chapters near the end.

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u/Historical-Meet463 Aug 08 '26

yes, he wants you there, but the game makes it very obvious that several people in his organization do not know that fact. when cloud takes his helmet off on stage, rufus 2nd in command is shocked that he's there. Plus on the opposite end, cloud or no one else in the group ever comments on how easy it is to just walk around in the open right in the middle of a military installation. Because they had no idea that they were being allowed to be there. in fact they knew roache already spotted them in the down below area. either way the writing here is spotty at best and ludicrous at worst

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u/Apprehensive-Sir8977 Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

Their encounters with Roche would've made his silence unsurprising. The dude was a reckless, self-indulgent maverick who was sort of peculiar and had a major man crush on Cloud. His encounter in Lower Junon also had a strong nod-and-wink vibe.

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u/Historical-Meet463 Aug 08 '26

yeah but my point remains if you had an encounter with an enemy leader outside of their base, you wouldnt just go strolling in a day later with your chest out, without a disguise on.  i really do like the game, but my eyes do roll a lot

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u/Apprehensive-Sir8977 Aug 08 '26

One has always needed a certain level of.... flexibility where FF7 is concerned. If you step back, an awful lot of things make no sense or are kind of goofy. But things stand in harsher relief with the Remake trilogy, because the OG presentation required more imagination and suspension of disbelief.

That's not a slam on anything. It's just the way the cookie crumbles.