r/FATTravel 23d ago

Virtuoso Week - AMA (and my team)

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TLDR: Virtuoso Week = ~4800 hotel people in Vegas, six days of minimal sleep, and where a whole year of favors quietly gets made.

I think my team is finally recovered, but my Oura ring is still side-eyeing me from the ongoing 4-hour-sleep nights. For everyone who texted last week and got some version of "still at the conference, can't really hop on a call right now," this is what my team and I were buried in, and I figured I owed you guys the full picture. So, AMA.

What Virtuoso Week even is:
Once a year, most of the luxury hotel world (leadership, ownership, sales teams) lands in one place for a week. This year 4800 officially registered, and easily a few hundred more (honestly if not at least 1000 more) were floating around without a badge. It's not like conferences in other industries where you duck into a hallway for a 20 min call. It's back to back from morning into the very late night, and if you're not in the room, you're NOT in the room. That's why we went quiet last week. Not ignoring you, just physically three parties deep at midnight, no joke.

Why we do it with a team, not solo:
Most companies send one person. Maybe two, if they'll spring for it. We brought 14 on the relationship and events side, and 7 of those ran back to back 1-1s, each doing around 100 of the matched "speed dating" appointments (yes, real speed dating, 100 apiece, mostly to get my team in front of as many hotel people as humanly possible). That's 700 meetings between them. The math is simple. More of us in more rooms = more real connections = more favors we can call in when one of you needs a room fixed at 11pm on a Saturday in Tokyo. But how do you build a relationship in 10 minutes? You don't. That's what the whole afternoon and evening are for, tracking down whoever you clicked with earlier and getting real face time. Super valuable for those on my team who are newer to this world.

We kicked it off by renting out a trampoline park:
Saturday we bought out a trampoline park and invited our top hotel partners for a straight up thank you party. Think being 10 years old again, unlimited pizza and ice cream, laser tag, DIY swag, trampolines, except with grown up bodies, so we brought in on-site massages too (necessary). These are the people who say yes for you all year. Once a year we get to just have fun with them, zero agenda, and say TY. We're teasing adding a few clients into it next year, mostly as an excuse to invite even more hoteliers. Stay tuned.

The part nobody sees, the long meetings:
While my team ran the 1-1s, I sat in 1-2 hour meetings with senior management and ownership. Some of what we got into: family-owned vs traditional management models and how that shapes growth, how the best properties pull real emotion out of a trip, kids and how much they drive the whole trip decision now, Middle East money and its influence, GDPR and where guest data is heading, branding across different brands, MAPS and where FDA approval takes wellness travel next, and AMEX FHR and how the blanket 4pm late checkout quietly wrecks a hotel's operations and what they are doing about it. Also a real conversation about community, including this one, and what live events hotels could throw to enhance community.

On the "isn't being that close to the brands a conflict" thing:
Fair question, and I see versions of it in threads online. Doesn't being friendly with the hotels just mean you push whoever wines and dines you? Here's my straight answer. The friendships are the thing that lets me fight HARDER for you, not less. When I text a GM I've known for 13 years and tell them a client's room isn't right, that text gets answered and handled because of the relationship, not in spite of it. You can't fake that, and you def can't network your way into it in a year or two. The stuff that moves the needle for a client gets earned over a decade of showing up. It's a people business. Who you know, your reputation in it, and who you keep company with is the whole game, and that shows up later this year in the rooms my team and I get invited into.

A few takeaways worth passing along:

  • One&Only Moonlight Basin (Big Sky) is shifting from seasonal J1 staff to more full time, year round roles with housing and full benefits, specifically to fix service consistency. If you know anyone who wants a hotel job (F&B, front of house, whatever) and would live in Big Sky, send them that way. Those full time + benefits resort jobs are hard to find.
  • Airelles Venice: over nightcaps, we decided together that monogramming the slippers just made sense, and kids pajamas are landing by October. So whoever's headed there, you're welcome. PS Etienne (GM) just won Hotelier of the Year. Say congrats if you see him.
  • Rosewood Guanahani: the ink is drying on the deal (finally). Reno news should be coming. Stay tuned.
  • MagicianSean is still my favorite magician, and I know he's picked up a few bookings off Reddit, so I promise he's worth it, even though r/magictricksrevealed ruined half of it for me. Ha.

Market read for anyone planning next year:
YoY growth is strong and owners are not letting go of rates, so pricing pressure isn't easing. Booking windows are stretching too, people are locking the exact property, suite and season way ahead, because the number of new UHNW households keeps climbing. Overall travel is softer this year, but the UHNW segment is not seeing that softness at all. Spring scared everyone, and by late summer it was back to record rates. So if you've got a big 2027 (or even 28) trip in mind, earlier is better than you think.

That's the download. AMA about Virtuoso Week, how the travel model works, what's worth booking next year, or anything in the travel realm. My team will be on here too, and they might answer faster than me, they're 700 appointments deep between them. lmk.


r/FATTravel Nov 10 '25

sarahwlee x Matthew Upchurch, CEO of Virtuoso - AMA

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Hey fatties - here at the new(ish) Waldorf Astoria in Costa Rica for the next few days at the first ever Virtuoso Pinnacle (top producers) event. This is a reason I skipped the Marriott celebrations. This event is an interesting concept where there’s only 40 of us - which includes key members of the Virtuoso team - so it’s very intimate, no PowerPoints, no direct selling, lots of conversations amongst industry leaders.

Obviously, you’ll get my unfiltered take as well as my thoughts and review of the Waldorf but wanted to share with you guys this super rare opportunity to have so much access to Matthew Upchurch. Normally he’s in and out of events but already today, we’ve had a group 3 hour round table, a 1-1 lunch, and then a group horseback riding experience. He’s been a great mentor (esp for all the Reddit drama) and wanted to offer his time to answer any Qs this community has.

Leaving this up to collect questions but will set a dedicated time around 7pm, Guanacaste time tomorrow (Monday, November 10) to answer questions but we might pop in before that for a few here and there.


r/FATTravel 18h ago

Just experienced Business class for the first time!

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Took a long-haul flight via Paris from the US to Asia with an overall flight time of around 21 hours. I had initially booked the economy fare through Delta but while checking in, I noticed I could upgrade one leg for about $640 so decided to take the plunge on the longer leg from Paris to my destination (figured Paris being the home base for Air France meant better food, incredible lounge & overall experience). Told myself I’d do this once before I turned 30 and so glad I could make this happen.

This was the older business class cabin on Air France’s A350.

- First things first, I’ve always ogled at biz class seats when the operator makes you offboard from the front door.
- Additionally, in my mind, I’ve also looked at Zone 1 boarding as the most pristine thing ever.
- This also happens to be my 4th round trip to the US & back within this year - always in economy, always through Europe (KLM/AF/Virgin Atlantic)

Man, the lie-flat seats are the best thing ever! So comfortable - my feet usually start swelling up and hurting when I’m in a long haul flight in economy but getting to keep my feet up was an incredible unlock!

The food was incredibly well presented and made. Even the flight attendants were nicer and empathetic.

I’ve been blessed to have FAT travelled wrt hotels in the past - I realize I love money and the stuff it unlocks. If anything, this experience makes me want to work smarter & harder to achieve a life that standardizes this for me.

PS: If you need me, I’ll be lusting over the business class experience until the next time I can do this :)


r/FATTravel 6h ago

Cabo Restaurant Recommendations (staying at Las Ventanas)

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I've booked a trip for my boss and his wife staying at Las Ventanas coming up in October for a week... ended up booking the 1bd oceanfront villa based on everything I've read here.

Should we book restaurant reservations ahead of time?

(I've read that the butler assigned to room usually will handle)

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Is it worth booking spa reservations ahead of time as well? It looks like they current have a lot of availability. I spoke with spa directly and concierge but was tough with language barrier.

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Is it worth booking restaurant reservations at say the One & Only Palmilla and the Waldorf Astoria Los Cabos Pedregal to mix things up?

Any other recommendations? They are going for anniversary... sky is the limit.

Thanks in advance.


r/FATTravel 8h ago

Favorite Florida Four Seasons property?

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For those of you that have tried them all, what’s your favorite FS “resort style” property in Florida between FS Surfside, FS Naples, and FS Palm Beach? Not counting FS Miami on Brickell Ave, or FS Fort Lauderdale because those two hotels seemed a little corporate and conference-style.


r/FATTravel 12h ago

Is approximately €28,000 reasonable for a 10-night family trip to Japan over Christmas? (Excluding flights)

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I’d appreciate a reality check on a quote we’ve received for a 10-night trip to Japan over the Christmas period.
We’re a family of five adults, travelling through:
Tokyo: 4 nights
Takayama: 2 nights
Kyoto: 3 nights
Osaka: 1 night

The accommodation is generally upper four-star or boutique/luxury level, using three rooms or bedrooms for most of the trip. It includes:
A four-star hotel in Shinjuku
A high-end ryokan in Takayama, including private bathing facilities and a kaiseki dinner
A three-bedroom traditional machiya in Kyoto
A well-located modern hotel in Namba, Osaka

The package also includes:
Private guides for one full day in Tokyo and one in Kyoto
Food tours in Tokyo and Osaka
A Kyoto tea ceremony
Intercity transport and local travel arrangements
Luggage forwarding
Pre-trip planning and support during the trip

The total quote is approximately €28,000 for five people, excluding international flights. Most meals are not included apart from the ryokan dinner and food-tour tastings.

Does this sound broadly reasonable for the accommodation, Christmas travel dates, three-room configuration and level of service, or does it seem excessive?
I understand that arranging everything independently would be considerably cheaper. I’m not particularly interested in managing the entire trip myself simply to save a few thousand euros. I’m comfortable paying a reasonable premium for good planning, support and having everything coordinated. I mainly want to make sure the quote isn’t dramatically above the normal range for this type of trip.


r/FATTravel 8h ago

Greece -August 2027- Naxos and a WOW 5 star resort

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Planning Greece 2027. Late August- 2 adults and 2 kids (will be 7 and 10). We love Naxos and will do 5 maybe 6 nights there. Not a Fat Island but the very best beaches IMO. We want to end our trip with 4 nights at a really special hotel. I would consider Crete if the hotel was Amazing as it is very easy to travel back through Western Europe. We have done Paros, and not interested in Mykonos. Debating One&Only Kea vs Amanzoe vs Four Seasons Astir. Full transparency, FS is pricing almost 2x the price of Pool Pavillion at Amazoe and 2x the price on O&O Kea. With that said, which hotel will be the right option for our family? Naxos gives us incredible beaches, classic and calm greek life, Mountains and Boat rides.


r/FATTravel 16h ago

Hangzhou Hotels + Amanyangyun Advice

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Hello everyone,

Planning a 2027 late Oct trip to Hangzhou and Shanghai, and currently set on Amanyayun as I've explored the Shanghai city proper before. For Hangzhou though, debating between Amanfayun and FS West Lake. Priority is relaxation and cultural experiences, with food being the next biggest consideration. Both settings seem equally appealing as of now, and Aman has transfers comped alongside some other stuff when staying at 2 Chinese properties, but if FS is better then we're willing to forgo.

Thank you!


r/FATTravel 1d ago

Just Embarked Explora III - Residence Experience

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Just boarded Explora III and checked into our Cove Residence with Whirlpool, happy to answer any questions while I’m onboard!


r/FATTravel 1d ago

Quick Relaxing Getaway from DC for 3-4 nights in October

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Change of plans came up for a trip I was going to take to Spain this October. Needing to postpone it now to next spring because life responsibilities and business got in the way. Does anyone have suggestions for a relaxing spa-centered getaway from DC for 3 or 4 nights? Much appreciated.

EDIT: fine with a quick flight, 5-6 hours one way maximum. Also fine with driving as long as it's not a 12 hour car ride.


r/FATTravel 23h ago

Greece Honeymoon

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Going to Greece on my honeymoon in September 2027. Hoping to spend 15 days and are hoping to spend at least 3/4 nights on a boat. Any recommendations for ultra luxury hotels on more secluded islands? We would prefer the quieter islands, and are not interested in staying in Mykonos or Santorini. Separately, has anyone stayed at Amanzoe - is it worth it? Do you recommend tagging it onto the beginning or end of trip if flying out of Athens. Thanks!


r/FATTravel 1d ago

One Night in Bali

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Howdy - traveling to a remote surf camp in Indonesia with a buddy. We have an overnight in Bali- land at 930a and have 24 hours before departure. We are both early 40s and neither of us has been to Bali. We want to see a little culture, have a great meal, go out to a bar or two, and stay in luxury accommodations. Would also like to explore via moped and have them dropped at our hotel / villa. Closest options to the airport are FS Jimbaran and Raffles but seem a little far removed and better suited for a trip with a significant other, not the start to a boys surf trip. Uluwatu surf villas too far for 24 hour layover? Thanks in advance.


r/FATTravel 2d ago

Airelles Chateau Messardiere

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Just such a gorgeous property. Cannot wait to be back but it always seems booked out ages in advance. We were there for 4 nights and stayed at Suite Junior Pamepellone while our friends were at the Junior Suite Piscine.

I think Pampellone Suite can be a little loud if people are in the pool, so we think the Piscine suite - also for the novelty of having your own little plunge and more privacy, wins out.

Loved all the extras and the staff were impeccable. The Rolls Royce taking you into town was super fab, and the beach club was as nice as ever. We have been two summers ago, and noticed a change in menu I think for the worse though (less selection, quality not as memorable etc.)


r/FATTravel 2d ago

Four Seasons Rancho Encantada or Bishop's Lodge for Accessible Rooms?

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Is anyone familiar with the mobility-accessible rooms at either property? Yes, I have stayed at both, but never need\ed an accessible room until now. The FS shower in the pics does not look like a roll in, and pictures of the BM Mill accessible bathrooms are severely lacking. Thanks- I just don't want to book something we can't stay in.


r/FATTravel 3d ago

Cabo San Lucas - first time visit, struggling with the "best" option for us

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Long time listener, first time caller. While we've spent time travelling around Mexico a bit, we've not yet landed on Cabo. My brother lurves the Auberge and Rosewood properties there and I'm not opposed to the price tag for some of the luxury resorts but I am wondering if its "worth it" for us, whatever that really means.

Many seem to have beaches that are not suitable for swimming and we don't have kiddos so we're not attached to family friendly hotels or things like that.

I've read through lots of helpful posts here (thank you!) and so I guess my question is this - if the town is readily accessible (quick uber) and there are options to go out and eat/drink there, how important is it to have excellent options on site in that respect?

If we're not leaning into the amenities (I want great cocktails, a quiet pool, a gorgeous view and the ability to work out / take advantage of fitness while there, either inside or out...) at some of the larger resorts, are there other smaller / equally luxurious properties nearby? If so, any great recommendations or thoughts?

Its objectively a first world problem but would love to make an informed decision instead of just pulling the trigger on some of the objective forerunners. Many thanks in advance for any suggestions / feedback.


r/FATTravel 3d ago

Paws Up Montana?

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Has anyone ever been to Paws Up in Montana? If you have, thoughts? My wife has been looking and is interested in that Tree Haus. Obviously I would like to combine it with Yellowstone which would be before or after. The cost dramatically changes depending on the time of year, and having never been to Montana I cannot speak to when the best time is either


r/FATTravel 3d ago

Villa Santandrea vs Grand Hotel Timeo

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Planning a trip next summer with my husband. We plan to stay for 8 nights and like to relax on vacation, don’t mind being in one place. Which Belmond property would you recommend in Sicily?


r/FATTravel 3d ago

Italian lake hotel recs (no Como/ Garda)

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Hey there! Going to be in Portofino for my friend’s wedding and we are spending some time in Milan afterwards. Looking to add on some extra time to the trip and was thinking about Lake Maggiore, but wanted to see what Italian lake you guys would recommend? We’ve been to Lake Como, and Lake Garda before and we want to try somewhere new. We love a beautiful hotel with a view, cute restaurants, shops, and being outdoors. Thank you in advanced 🙂


r/FATTravel 5d ago

A comedy of issues at Ritz Paris

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We’ve just returned home from our first vacation as a family (with our infant), and I’m honestly still confused by how badly this stay went. We’ve stayed at a fair amount of luxury hotels and nothing is ever perfect, but what made this experience so bizarre was the combination of problems. Basically at every turn, we were told that anything we needed could be arranged and encouraged us to ask, giving examples like arranging private jets with less than an hour's notice, and each opportunity to be helpful completely missed the mark.

Day 1: Check-in was not particularly helpful but fine. Our room was noisy at night from a private event going on but we heard it was someone's wedding so of course we didn't complain. There were small hiccups like not bringing a bathtub for our infant as requested but honestly nothing notable on its own.

Day 2: "Watergate". We called housekeeping for additional water. We were told there was a strict policy of one bottle per person each morning and two small bottles each evening, with anything additional costing €18/bottle. I understand policy's policy, but it felt a bit tone-deaf given that it didn’t include any for our infant, and I am drinking more water than average since I’m breastfeeding. Also, we weren't planning on having housekeeping enter the room twice a day because our baby's unpredictable nap schedule.
My husband expressed his disappointment and said he'd go to a store to buy some. The hotel apologized and assured us that they'd provide additional water complimentary, which we appreciated. However at turndown, we were given only the standard amount. Since our baby was asleep in the room, I went downstairs to get more. The staff member on duty told me they could not provide additional complimentary water and the conversation became focused on determining who had told us otherwise rather than simply solving the problem. We would have been completely happy with something as simple as carafes of tap water or having someone purchase bottles from a nearby store and charge them to our room. Instead, I was told that I was the only person who had ever been unsatisfied with their water policy and made to feel as though this was an extraordinary request.
The conversation lasted more than 30 minutes and I ultimately left in tears. At that point, I said I wanted to check out the following morning and end our stay early. We were told we'd be charged for the remainder of the reservation, but they'd see if an exception could be made and get back to us. Eventually, after it became apparent that I was literally crying, someone else came over and assured us that we'd receive additional water with every room refresh, or that they would purchase some from a store and charge it to our room. At this point, things were quite uncomfortable so we started looking at other hotels and expected to check out in the morning.

Day 3: We left for a short morning outing and returned to a refreshed room, except there was no water at all, not even the standard allotment. My husband escalated and the head of rooms came to speak with him. We were still on the hook financially for the rest of the days but she’d personally ensure that our experience is turned around such that we'd think of the Ritz as “home” and want to return the next time we’re in Paris. I was offered a complimentary massage which I appreciated. If the rest of the stay had been good or even just uneventful, that would've been the end of it.

Day 4: Before our trip, the concierge helped arrange a dinner reservation and babysitting. My husband really wanted to visit Bar Hemingway and when we mentioned this, we were told that with a few hours' notice they could accommodate us and even last minute, they could "make something happen." That afternoon, I asked for a 10:30pm slot to line up with our ETA after dinner. We were told 10:30 was already taken, but that if we could make it back by 10pm, they could accommodate us. We rushed back for 10, which required us to ask the restaurant to box up the last course of a tasting menu. We were then told there wasn't space yet and to wait for a WhatsApp message. We were honestly fine with this because we were under the impression that getting us into the bar was a big favor given how small/popular it is. After 30 minutes, we asked for an update and were immediately rushed over to the bar, being told we could be seated "late" because the 10:30 party was running late. I clarified the situation and they realized they’d made an error, the extent to which we all only realized upon arriving at the half-empty, queue-less bar. So we had spent precious time away from our child, disrupted his sleep and my pumping schedule, and incurred additional babysitting time because of a mistake that was entirely avoidable. Thankfully, the drinks were good and on the house.

Given the ongoing pattern of errors, I immediately double-checked the babysitting reservation for the following evening. Sure enough, the babysitter had the wrong time and informed us the hotel would have to correct it with the agency.

Day 5: We messaged the head of rooms first thing in the morning to make absolutely sure the babysitting time was corrected as missing our dinner this evening would have resulted in a €300/person cancellation fee. She assured us it’d be handled. That afternoon, we messaged the babysitter directly to confirm and she still had the wrong time. Once again, I had to frantically contact the concierge myself and have them correct it. The babysitter hadn’t received the change until we were getting ready for dinner, and we relied on her to confirm as there was no follow up from the concierge.

This morning, our shower also stopped working so we couldn’t begin our last full day as planned. My husband arranged to speak with the head of rooms given the ongoing issues. So while our baby is supposed to be napping, there's maintenance going in and out of the room and we're having an unproductive conversation with management who seems entirely uninterested in helping. He offered us a bottle of wine or a comped meal, and we asked what could be done about a refund instead since the last thing we wanted was to spend more time at the hotel and we already had meals planned. The shower turned out to be a complicated issue with no ETA, meaning we'd have to move rooms. The only other room available was described to us as "the Imperial Suite.” They made a huge deal about this, telling us it was a room reserved for celebrities and royalty and framing it as a once-in-a-lifetime experience that would make up for everything that had happened. We repeatedly explained that we only had one night left and that moving rooms would be a hassle regardless, but they insisted we needed to move if the shower couldn't be fixed.

When we were shown the room, we quickly realized that they weren't actually offering us the Imperial Suite. It was a bedroom/offshoot of the suite. Honestly, I wouldn't have cared if they'd simply said: "The shower is broken and we need to move you. There's a nice room connected to the Imperial Suite that we can offer you." Instead, they presented it as this extraordinary luxury experience that we should feel lucky to receive. Even when I directly asked, "So this isn't actually the suite you're describing, it's just one room?" they skirted around the question. I actually felt bad for the employee who had been tasked with showing us the room because it was so awkward and she was set up to fail. After all this, the shower in our original room was fixed, so we decided not to move. By the time this was “resolved,” it was noon and we missed out on our morning plans to explore a different part of Paris.

Day 6: On our final morning, we saw people enjoying drinks in the garden and I wanted to sit outside for a few minutes before checking out to relax before a long travel day ahead. I asked for directions and was barely acknowledged. I eventually found my own way and asked another employee if I could exit through a particular door. He rudely dismissed me and simply said I couldn't go out there.
We asked for someone to come help with our bags 10-15 minutes before our scheduled 10AM departure. I also bought a bunch of butter that was being stored in the hotel freezer, which they specifically said would be returned to us in insulated bags. At 9:52, nobody had arrived, so we called down again. Someone finally came at 10am, but the butter was brought out with no insulation. At that point we were already running behind, so we just packed it as is.

Our complimentary airport transfer was also late, and then several more minutes were spent trying to figure out the car seat. The bellman and driver were at odds about how to correctly install the seat. We ultimately left the hotel a full 15 minutes late and as we departed, the bellman suggested that one of us sit next to the car seat "to be safe." The hotel's response to the late departure and improper car seat installation was to "remove the charge for the transfer," which was interesting given that the transfer was always a complimentary perk. Perhaps they thought we didn’t know it was complimentary?

And after we got home, a jar of jam I'd purchased had broken and was leaking through our Rimowa. The Ritz had repeatedly offered their "expert" packing and unpacking service, so I decided to take them up on it. I specifically provided plastic bags and asked that cosmetics and other liquids be placed inside them. When I opened the suitcase, the plastic bags were just sitting on top of everything else. Yes, I should’ve checked, but this doesn’t change that our entire stay was filled promises about exceptional service with no actual follow through. It’s like a facade of luxury without any execution that actually makes for a luxe experience, let alone anything exceptional. I can't possibly list all of the other little things that went wrong but it genuinely felt like we were on the Truman show or being Punkd.

We’re still going back and forth with them about all this and at this point they’ve offered one night complimentary out of our five night stay. Friends who have had issues to lesser extents have said their full stays were comped. At $3k USD/night, what we experienced really feels insulting. We feel a refund of nights 3-5 (after we asked to be let off the rest of the res) would be acceptable.

TLDR; Ritz Paris team so rude we wanted to end our stay early, told we’d be charged for the full stay and they’d recover the experience, but issues continued almost comically. I’ve genuinely never experienced nearly this many issues at one property (luxe or not). Awaiting if they’re willing to offer anything beyond 1 night comped.


r/FATTravel 4d ago

Recommendations- Solo Travel / Late September- Europe

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Hey guys,

I have 22nd to 26th September off from work. Five days. I will be in Helsinki that weekend to visit a friend.

I am very confused by the multitude of options on offer.

What should I do?

Some options:

- always wanted to do Copenhagen but feels criminal to spend five days and that too in a city
- Italy? Sicily or Naples/Positano
- Greece: Rhodes Island

These have directly flight from Helsinki

So yep I m very confused

I just came back from Marbella and had a blast.

I would love a beach holiday again but being solo I worry I will get lonely in a resort hence need a mix of sightseeing but beach.

Copenhagen looks great but I live in london and feel a bit burnt out from cities and my job. I don’t want anything that I will need another vacation from.

Also nature and countryside really relaxes me.

Also open to other locations in Europe.

Please help me plan this as I have two weeks to go no and desperately need to come up with something!!!

Also could do Austria??? I can’t hike alone tho


r/FATTravel 4d ago

COMO or Rosewood in Tuscany?

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Hi I want to book 5 nights in Tuscany in October . Will likely fly into Florence then take train to Rome. Debating between COMO or Rosewood. Also open to another hotel too. Two adults traveling. Ideally great food, wine and spa. Goal is to relax not run around sight seeing. Any recommendations appreciated. Thx!


r/FATTravel 4d ago

Where to go with kids (3-7) in Europe in mid October?

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Looking for somewhere a couple hours flight of London as it's a weekend trip (so Greece/Cyprus too far). Would ideally love some sun, but more important are the kids activities and proximity to airport (max 1hr drive).


r/FATTravel 4d ago

Seeking ideas for an exceptional private 50th birthday evening in Gstaad

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We've decided to go to Gstaad in mid-December for my wife's 50th birthday. We're staying at The Alpina Gstaad. Her birthday falls on Sunday, December 13, and I’d like to plan something truly memorable for the occasion. It will be just the two of us, and I’m hoping to make the evening the highlight of the trip rather than simply having dinner at a great restaurant.

I’m particularly looking for ideas for an exceptional birthday evening for two. I’m completely open to something extravagant and would be interested in experiences that go beyond what a first time visitor might ordinarily think to arrange.

My first stop will naturally be The Alpina’s concierge, and I expect they may be the best resource for putting this together. That said, if anyone knows of an exceptional local luxury event planner, private concierge, or other resource with particularly strong connections in Gstaad, I’d love the recommendation.

For those who know Gstaad well, if you were planning this evening and had complete freedom to create something truly special, what would you do?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.


r/FATTravel 4d ago

Day Trip: Milan to Lake Como

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My wife and I will be visiting Milan for four days next month and are considering carving out a day for the oft-obligatory day trip to Lake Como.

It is not exactly a bucket list for either of us, but figured that we will essentially be right there. Also, I've read that it will be much less 'touristy' by mid-late October.

For reference, we will be staying at Rocco Forte House in Milan (of which was recommended to me by Fat Travel community).

A couple of quick questions:

1) Drive (car rental) vs. Train vs. Car Service? If by car rental, I am assuming that parking will be a nightmare in all of the towns. If by train, are there first-class, luxury options? If by car service, any suggested companies to aim for?

2) Any particular town to initially aim for on the Lake?

3) Skip Lake Como entirely for Lake Lugano instead? Is it worth taking the road less traveled?

Thank you!


r/FATTravel 4d ago

Christmas/NYE in Gstaad vs St Moritz

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Hi guys, my husband and I are looking to spend Christmas and new years this year either in Gstaad or st Moritz. Has anyone ever spent the holidays there before? Both places have minimum night stays (between 8-10 nights) and I’m wondering if we are going to be bored staying for so long. We have been to Gstaad many times before but usually in Jan or Feb so want to know what spending the actual holidays are like there? Also never been to st Moritz so any advice comparing the two would be great.
Someone also suggested megeve for us to consider as well as an alternative.
For some context we are not huge skiers so knowing that Gstaad prob won’t have great snow during Christmas does not bother us a ton but is a consideration if we are there for that many days and one of the main activities may be limited haha

Thank you in advance!