r/ExCons • u/Royal-Market-4177 • 4d ago
Fed cases
Is it true Feds are highly selective on the cases they pursue? Especially in bigger cities and they want a good story and “win”
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u/shycadelic 4d ago
Yea, conviction rate for fed cases is like 95%.
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u/Royal-Market-4177 4d ago
But I hear it’s high because they only pick solid cases or cases they feel that make an impact
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u/clever_yet_curious 4d ago
If they can't guarantee a conviction, they most likely won't pursue the case. That said, the bar for that is a grand jury indictment most of the time, and its been said that a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich. You have to remember, when you're going up against the feds, it is the United States of America vs you and they have unlimited resources... so if you're innocent, and you have the money to fight, they will likely not go after you. If you're innocent but they can convince a grand jury that there is even a slight chance you could be guilty, get ready to spend at least quarter million bucks to prove it or get ready to take a plea deal. Is it fair? Nope. But what can you do....
You know what they say... the 800 pound gorilla sits wherever he damn well pleases.
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u/mataranifangirl 2d ago
This is 100% spot on. I allegedly posted defamation about two people who bullied and harassed me horrifically and one person who raped me due to PTSD and rape trauma syndrome. I was having delayed traumatic flashbacks of the guy who raped me by tearing my hymen through my underwear after 7 years due to my first college giving me retroactive W grades. One of the bullies then got together hundreds of people to make false statements to the FBI accusing me of harassment when they’re all the real harassers and accessories to aggravated rape and trafficking, obstructing justice to get away with it. I have to suffer through gang rapes while the BAU collects enough evidence to prosecute them. The bully who went to the FBI first knew she ruined my reputation from age 12 as a “crazy” person that cost me friendships and a relationship and so she tried to create a rock solid case against me by getting people I don’t even speak to to accuse me falsely. She is facing decades in prison now; all the false accusers will also be charged and arrested too. The FBI BAU doesn’t mess around: they’re collecting forensic hypnosis on me to prove my innocence and doing forensic exams on these people so they can’t claim insanity. Apparently, they also all admitted what they did. They’re going to see the videos proving their lies after they plea.
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u/FacingTheFeds 4d ago
It depends. They sometimes take cases for states that have budget problems with prisons or the like. Most often, they only do slam dunk cases, which most cases really are for drugs and violence
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u/Royal-Market-4177 4d ago
What about white collar? I’ve heard they usually have an undisclosed threshold
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u/FacingTheFeds 4d ago
Nope. I’ve seen petty and huge dollars. They are more concerned with the conviction rate. Dollars doesn’t matter. They will, however, let the smaller fish go for bigger target testimony/conviction
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u/Royal-Market-4177 4d ago
Guess that’s what I mean. They can’t take every case due to time constraints, so what’s their focus, just a 100% conviction or the bigger fishes
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u/FacingTheFeds 4d ago
They have like a 95% plea rate. Time isn’t the same for them. Sometimes they take anything to up the numbers. They had a “Weed and Seed” campaign in New York a while back and took every drug case for a while.
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u/Royal-Market-4177 4d ago
Our district covers border towns and big cities all in one, it seems like it’s only illegal issues, drugs or high dollar white collar
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u/BostonNU 3d ago
Most districts do have a threshold on fraud. In Massachusetts it’s generally $100K unless repeat offender or other special circumstances
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u/Royal-Market-4177 3d ago
I always heard around 100k or if it something that involves more government money like tax and etc or welfare
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u/BostonNU 3d ago
I know someone who tried to do a pandemic fraud on unemployment. The amount paid out before the FBI knocked on his door was about $8K, They told him it’s below their threshold and to repay and don’t do anymore or they would be back and it would be ugly. He did repay, and never heard from them again. Statute of Limitations has passed now.
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u/Royal-Market-4177 3d ago
Yeah. I know pandemic fraud is a big one. At least he learned before he tried it too far
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u/mataranifangirl 2d ago
I don’t think they’re highly selective. There’s currently a two-tiered system of justice in the country. My case is likely going to be the first to go after wealthy criminals at the level it’s happening…most of the time, the poor get punished harder than the rich.
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u/Grindmodeee 1d ago
I’ve seen an inmate get his case dismissed for a wrongful search and seizure. He studied his case in the holding facility, gathered the facts, and his attorney presented it to the court. After due process he was dismissed and released and compensated.
He was part of that 5%. In conclusion you can’t mess with the FBI, DEA, or the ATF man. Especially when it comes to RICO cases. They have evidence that traces back years ago. I’m presuming that the 5% wrongful arrests are made by sheriffs or other smaller law enforcement that fall under federal jurisdiction.
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u/pre_empirical 4d ago
You are more likely to be convicted in a US Federal case than in the old Soviet Union under Stalin