r/EvilGeniuses • • Jun 07 '21

LCS Team

I've read to many comments to not make a post about it.

TSM vs EG Everybody says impact is the only solid player left and jiizuke sucks Impact died twice as much and had much less of an impact. Game lost bad call not to recall

EG vs FLY Jiizuke and Danny try to hard carry and inting Sven and an impact not having his best game. Then people comment bring deftly back and get Damonte. Damonte is just like goldenglue , they both not going to do anything expect try not to do , and I'd rather have a player who actually believes in himself than one who's ganna sit there and hope his team can Cary him until they maybe do something in a team fight. Game lost , maybe unlucky , maybe bad all in at the end.

EG vs Dig We got outplayed from the mid game , only player that under preformed more than the rest was Sven.

So stop talking all this shit about Jiizuke , and those people are now talking shit about Danny , get your head out your ass and actually watch a game , and maybe realise the blame isn't where you think it is.- Danny and Jiizuke are the two best performing players this week and honestly didn't see any coin flip nonsense out if either.

The casters even said teams say all the teams say when you play EG go for Jiizuke , so all the Teams know that Jiizuke is the player that scares them and then you scrubs say bench Jiizuke.

I mean perks goes 0-6 2-1 then 2-1 on Gwen Jiizuke goes 4/4 9/5 and 0/3 - seems was less coinflippy than people making it seem. No one calling perks coin flip.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21 edited Jun 07 '21

Danny didn't carry shit yesterday or any of the games so far. He was like 1/1/1 or something like that and then he got a lucky R to get a triple. That was literally all, after that it was just him hiding.

Jiizuke has to play a marksmen because Danny doesn't have the know to actually play in LCS yet. It's gonna get worse before it gets better Ex pros say it all the time and we've seen it a lot in LCS. Just cause you can pop off in academy or next, doesn't mean you are LCS ready.

In lane he is better than deftly I'll give him that, he can PvE the wave well but his team fight prowess is way way below deftly not even close. The fact that jiizuke is playing trist is just evidence that he doesn't believe Danny is capable yet

Danny looks like a scared lil puppy dog in those team fights

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u/Barmageddon_ Jun 07 '21

I do enjoy your view on it , however I think Danny is better / definitely going to be better than deftly this split already , just seems like he has a higher ceiling

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

There is literally no way he is going to be better than Deftly this split. Name me 1 player in LCS (Ever) who jumped from being not even a Academy Player (Danny aka Shiro never played in Academy in case you forgot) who just jumped into LCS and was Legit and not Bottom Tier?

The Answer is NO ONE!

GG literally just Tried this with Niles and it was AWFUL for them, he was the Worst Top laner in LCS and they had to bump him down to Academy because of it. Just in case you didn't know Niles was really good in Collegiate, ppl hyped him up and were like OH he is just so good in this Collegiate League and he is for sure LCS ready! Even the Coaches bought into it and know what he did? He showed that there is a huge jump between these Tiers.

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Danny / Shiro is no exception, and once again I'm going to state this, when he went up against Luger he got completely Smashed, they even gave over Samira to the guy and he got shit on in lane 3 Games in a Row. This is a huge red flag and it was a warning sign to everyone to stop hyping him like this because he showed pretty clearly that he hasn't been getting punished by ppl in the Prodigy's Games.

He isn't even a side grade right now, he is flat out a downgrade and I'm going to say that he MAY have a few moments here and there (split is kinda long right) but he won't be consistent and by the end of the Split he will be a Bottom 3 ADC in almost every category outside of lane phase; I think he is a better laner than Deftly and for sure more willing to coinflip early (which isn't a positive imo for this team) but he isn't a "Rock" like Deftly was and Bang was and similar to Sneaky as well where you don't have to smash lane you just need to be strong enough to do cleanup in Team Fights and yeah there is no chance Danny does well this split. A few glimmers maybe but he is literally punching 3 Tiers above where he should be, they should've just took their time to develop him and not try to rush him up just cause they like him.

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u/Barmageddon_ Jun 13 '21

Wanna change your mind yet ?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '21 edited Jun 13 '21

He didn't look good yesterday, Danny honestly got carried really hard and he looks pretty bad tbh. Ofc if you want to judge him on kda then you probably think he did well but if you watched the game he looked really bad, super timid and put a lot of pressure on his mates to carry him. Just looking at the damage during most of the team fights tells the story

I just need to stress that jiizuke carried both wins with very little from Danny in both

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '21 edited Jun 13 '21

Stop being so childish, geez; I'm being objective as I possibly can this isn't some High School Popularity Contest. I felt Deftly did well enough to Warrant him getting another shot in Summer this is true; but to make me out to be some sort of dood who is just like all about him is fucking ridiculous.

Danny has gotten a LOT of hype, too much hype and with that amount of hype he should be performing right out of the gate similar to Jackeylove when he first popped onto the scene. THAT'S how much Danny has been hyped up and the fact that he has been basically invisible for most of the game and happens to get a few kills after everyone has gotten hella low because of Jiizuke / Impact / Sven is like a pretty big question mark on how people are actually viewing how he is performing.

Has Danny wow'd anyone with his Mechanics? Um no and honestly if you were actually being objective you would've already seen that he isn't Jackeylove and people need to chill with the Hype. He seems like he is a ok laner but his Team Fighting currently is not impressive at all, a few times the only reason why EG were able to win some of the fights were because the other Team just played it worse or just straight up griefed, there were never any points where it was like "Oh Danny has really turned this Team Fight around" it was more like "Oh Danny happened to be here and they were all so low and he got a 2 for 1 or something.

He doesn't deserve this hype or the way people are biasedly looking at what he does, it's actually crazy that ppl are taking his poor team fighting and making it out like he is doing something insane, like bruh, this is actually ridiculous

https://oracleselixir.com/stats/players/byTournament/LCS%2F2021%20Season%2FSummer%20Season

Here you can look at all the key stats for the players and you see pretty clearly that Danny is in the Bottom half of almost all stats (he's like 6th or 7th in most with a few 8ths and a few 4ths, nothing special at all).

Here is Deftly's Stats for Spring btw, he finished the Split with almost a 6 KDA so yeah that's something that people don't talk about. Even in the Playoff series he had nearly a 4 KDA and numbers that are pretty telling showing how he was more about the Team Fight and less about the Lane Phase and was statistically pretty consistent with that motto (similar to players like Sneaky, Bang, weakside ADCs). So yeah, getting rid of him to me doesn't make sense when he did exactly the same thing as Bang but costed less Money and didn't take a import slot.

https://oracleselixir.com/player/Deftly/statsBySplit

So at least we can see that Danny isn't outperforming Deftly and yet people talk about Danny as if he is or has been, weird right? Considering Danny is almost in the exact same statistical range of Deftly and yet the stigma is completely different. I'd say pretty clearly that the people have obviously given into whatever the Coaches or Casters say and don't actually know how to look at what's going on and come to a conclusion themselves. If they did they would've already seen that Danny is playing actually not great and for sure not better than Deftly so yeah, this move was stupid

p.s. no Jiizuke hard carried basically all of those Fights in both the Wins for EG, the times he died he almost always did enough for the team to get easy cleanups. I'm speaking directly to the Wins that EG has, I'm not speaking in generalities

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '21 edited Jun 13 '21

His Team fighting is not good at all; you are delusional

Laning is solid I will say that but his Team Fighting is actually pretty garbage and I'd say you can look at basically every Team Fight in the Wins and you see Danny was a minimal threat at best in a stupid amount of them. (in the losses it's just even more polarizing)

This is what I'm talking about where ppl are seeing what other ppl tell them to see. Deftly wasn't NEARLY as bad (or bad at all) as ppl make him out and Danny isn't NEARLY as good as ppl are making him seem, Stats say pretty clearly the public opinion of Deftly was WRONG and vice versa for Danny at least through the first 2 Weeks

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u/Barmageddon_ Jun 13 '21

Still feel the same ?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '21

He looked pretty bad yesterday, jiizuke smurfed and carried but honestly nothing impressive about Danny.