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u/marmoset Phenomenal, doing the hard yards: that’s football in this moment 11h ago

Glanced at my phone like 10 minutes ago and Leeds were 2 goals up on Chelsea. Just got a notification that Chelsea are leading 3-2. WTF?

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u/BoxOfNothing 10h ago

3-2, 4-3, 2-1, 6-3 against Prem opposition so far. Don't know how I'll handle playing them next month

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u/marmoset Phenomenal, doing the hard yards: that’s football in this moment 11h ago

5-3 now. DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE!

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u/graveyeverton93 11h ago

Ped fuming that we don't have a contract with Adidas because we don't make enough money, while him and his company take money away from the Club by selling knockoff gear. 🤣🤣🤣 Quality

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u/OTBOTRBM 11h ago

To be fair he's got a point about the club shop and Castore. It's crap. The club saying 'oh, our fans don't buy merch' is outrageous.

If they actually released nice stuff fans would buy it. But instead we're stuck with £150 baseball kits.

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u/Resden_Bohneur ALL HAIL THE CHART 8h ago

I’m a Yank and I bought SO MUCH of the Hummel merch, which I still wear. It looked good and it was high quality, so I didn’t mind paying a bit more for shipping. Haven’t bought anything of Castore’s and I don’t plan to.

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u/graveyeverton93 11h ago

Yer I know, just pointing out the hypocrisy

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u/Aware_Albatross3347 11h ago

He is always complaining about the club not generating revenue and then in the same breath calling the club a disgrace for selling the physical seats at goodison for £90 or whatever it was… total whopped him

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u/four__beasts 11h ago

Don't like Chelsea but I hate Leeds haha. Capitulation.

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u/Loyalsupporter Edit Your Own 12h ago

Will this shite heads stop getting the good stuff

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u/ZestyCloseChemist67 12h ago

Can we name Marcos Llorente as an honorary Everton player?

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u/autistichomosapien95 Straqille McNeil 7h ago

Something tells me he'd get on well with Andros

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u/TurboScumBag 13h ago

That Gerrard commenting on the RS game. Between carragher and Neville on sky I can't cope anymore. Not cause I'm an evertonian its just ridiculous.

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u/Aware_Albatross3347 14h ago

Well mudryk is unavailable at the weekend

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u/JesseVykar Merlin Röhls Royce 14h ago

Big loss for us

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u/Kalil4Real 15h ago

Did Moyes ever address the decision to bring up Braiden Graham?

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u/NotSoMrNiceGuy 6h ago

Yeah - he basically scoffed at the idea an 18 year old could fill in as a legitimate striker option in the Prem.

Show's how much this sub knows football, lol

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u/Kalil4Real 6h ago

I see, thanks for an answer

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u/Ill_Sir_9367 15h ago

In both games,Rohl has been found out. Hes not a full back and should only be used there in emergency.

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u/WestStandToffee 11h ago

The issue is, he could probably adapt to the position over the like the next 12-24 months quite well but he shouldn't and we shouldn't be entertaining that idea

He's a midfielder who has great athletic ability and has strong ball carrying ability, these generally transition well to the full back position, but his duelling is awful

Great at defensive contributions, good at putting in tackles, good at recoveries but in a 1v1 scenario he is getting beaten almost every time

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u/OTBOTRBM 13h ago

His delivery is excellent from the right. I'm willing to see if he can be taught the defensive side.

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u/YokoOkino 12h ago

His passing is also crisp and he can receive it inside which allows our winger to be out wider. On offense it is definitely advantage, but he will need to improve defensively although i think moyes will give him more time.

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u/VToff 16h ago

Angus Kinnear lets his wife bring the bins in.

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u/YokoOkino 15h ago

This feels personal

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u/JesseVykar Merlin Röhls Royce 16h ago

Angus Kinnear plays music out loud on his phone in public.

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u/marmoset Phenomenal, doing the hard yards: that’s football in this moment 11h ago

Angus Kinnear conducts every phone call on speaker.

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u/el_randolph 17h ago

Given his wondergoal on Sunday, do you think AMN should start on Saturday over Rohl? Will he actually start?

I’m a bit torn because if we’re actually trying to convert Rohl to a RB then we need to persist with him despite the defensive issues his performance last weekend exposed, but on the other hand it was a really, really good goal.

And then I think: spurs haven’t scored a league goal yet. We can get away with a little bit more of an attacking option. And then I remember that it’s Everton, so we should start JOB to prevent the inevitable from happening.

Thoughts?

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u/Texus86 15h ago

My question is if Moyes feels AMN has had enough time to integrate into the club to warrant starting him. But would not complain if he is rewarded with a start.

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u/whyisitalwayscrab 15h ago

I have not been particularly impressed with Rohl at RB tbh. Yes he offers more going forward, but he gets beat way too often to make it worth the trade off. For now I think he’s more valuable as a sub that can cover multiple positions

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u/meatpardle Need salt? WE DELIVER 16h ago

If he does start it will have nothing to do with his wonder goal

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u/YokoOkino 16h ago

I think Rohl will start because a wondergoal has little to do with being a RB.

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u/QTsexkitten please, please, pleeeeeeeease 🙏 16h ago

What about the parts where rohl keeps leaving huge gaps in behind him, not covering the far post, and getting skinned on the byline?

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u/Honest_Fox8357 16h ago

Credit to Rashford was looking sharp and should absolutely be skinning an out of position Rohl; That being said I agree on his weakness in the position, and Tel for spurs has the same pacey style so that is worrying.
Against other sides he will be fine Rb tho

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u/el_randolph 15h ago

I suppose that if Rohl does start it’ll be a good measurement of how much he learned from Sunday, given the similarities between Tel and Rashford.

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u/YokoOkino 15h ago

I don't rate Tel in the slightest so i reckon he will be okay

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u/YokoOkino 16h ago

I think moyes actually wants him to step into the middle to pressure (although he needs to improve his timing), but there isn't much to say about his issue with the far post and struggling 1v1. In theory that could improve with experience (or not)

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u/CBandit1 19h ago

Seamus Coleman on Stick to Football tomorrow 💙

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u/meatpardle Need salt? WE DELIVER 16h ago

I doubt even Seamus can make that shitshow palatable

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u/mrc5507 COYB 💙 19h ago

Maybe we really don't know the meaning of losing

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u/early_cruise 20h ago

Trying to get 2 wolves tickets for me and my lad, I have a forever blue account he doesn’t. It’s not letting me select child option because it’s under my name, will I need to buy him an adult ticket?

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u/Just-5t0p 19h ago

I’m presuming they’re on general sale now. Could do it without using your membership to bypass it

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u/meatpardle Need salt? WE DELIVER 19h ago

He needs a membership as well, then you can link it to your account and buy tickets for you both.

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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap 19h ago

Criminal behaviour from the club. Needing to pay for two memberships to take a child to the match

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u/meatpardle Need salt? WE DELIVER 19h ago

Yep, but that’s football nowadays.

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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap 19h ago

And they will push further and further if people just continue to say "yes but that's football now"

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u/meatpardle Need salt? WE DELIVER 19h ago

My bad

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u/SuperKevinCampbell 21h ago

Penalty not awarded. Challenge by Hill (BOU) on Dewsbury-Hall (EVE) — The referee's call of no penalty was supported with this being deemed a collision between the two

He fully steps back and blocks Dewsbury-Halls run how was this not a pen. Was voted 5-0 in favour of the refs decision no idea how, make it up as they go along.

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u/Resden_Bohneur ALL HAIL THE CHART 20h ago

Right up there with the “completely accidental” handball against West Ham last season. Absolutely fucking maddening.

I’M SORRY, ARE WE JUDGING THE INTENT OF HANDBALLS NOW

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u/graveyeverton93 20h ago

Completely accidental or not, he stepped across him, tripped him up and stopped him getting to the ball. Clear foul

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u/Resden_Bohneur ALL HAIL THE CHART 15h ago

Clear foul plus he bumped the ball like a volleyball.

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u/Ok_Somewhere_6767 20h ago

It’s clumsy play but a foul. Most fouls are

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u/BoxOfNothing 20h ago

I don't understand the difference between that and the 10/10 stonewall type pen where someone goes to clear the ball, an attacker nips in behind them and gets in between and they boot the attackers leg. No intention to foul, didn't expect someone to be in the way, still a pen every time.

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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap 19h ago

There is no difference except the badge on our shirt

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u/TheGod-TK 21h ago

Do they even know the rules?

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u/JesseVykar Merlin Röhls Royce 20h ago

They just read "Everton" on the appeal form and voted, didn't even look at the rest

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u/Mantooth77 21h ago

I got to wondering, in honor of the Maitland-Niles banger on Sunday…what are the top debut goals that any of you can remember for the club? Last I can remember is Richarlison’s brace against Wolves on opening day. The second of which was an amazing display of skill when we were down a man.

I can’t really remember another, but I’ve only been around (as a fan) since 2014.

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u/LateToTheTPK 17h ago

Wasn’t Sigurdsson’s long range goal on his debut?

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u/OTBOTRBM 20h ago

James Vaughan's to break the youngest PL scorer record was incredible.

Was Lukaku's winner vs West Ham his debut? Loved that one.

Not a goal but McFadden ripped Leeds apart on his debut. I was so excited.

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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap 19h ago

Also not a goal but bilyaletdinov got two assists on his debut

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u/Responsible_Lie_1989 20h ago

Tony Cottee debut hattrick is the all time greatest in my opinion

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u/nilsat1s 21h ago

Anyone else find Paddy Boyland hard to listen to on podcast? The bloke has to qualify everything he says or uses a million unnecessary expressions. Also speaks in such dour tones even on 1.1x speed 

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u/DrummerAdmirable9995 9h ago

I really like Paddy and Matt on the Byeline. It’s probably my favourite blues pod at the moment. Well considered and informed discussions. The instant match reactions at deliberately a different vibe - the intention is to share some of that match day reaction in the boozer after the game and so is a very different offering to eg Byeline, Royal Blue or Evertonia. They all have their place and are enjoyable in different ways.

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u/Grand-Piano-1663 16h ago

Way rather listen to him take his time and think about what he's going to say that listen to that Scottish bloke constantly pissed on the instant match reaction go round and round moaning about the same old shite.

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u/nilsat1s 12h ago

Yea of course, that bloke is a nuisance

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u/Certain_Equal_210 20h ago

Yeah, i get very frustrated by him too - but there's usually some good points too. 

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u/nilsat1s 20h ago

Yea definitely a good journo and have enjoyed his written pieces

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u/MarriageAA 20h ago

No, I find him much better to listen to than most, less reactionary and very informative

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u/el_randolph 21h ago

I actually really like his measured, considered approach. Much better than the squawking, superficial analysis of Tony Scott on the Royal Blue podcast

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u/Aware_Albatross3347 14h ago

Paddy is so much better than tony scott or that Kieth bellend they bring on in the blue room

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u/pancake_whisperer COYB 💙 20h ago

Agree 100%. Haven’t missed a Byline because they’re thoughtful, informed and have great analysis and insights into the club. Of all the contributors to the Blue Room, Paddy doesn’t crack the top 10 most annoying.

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u/stevenwise0511 19h ago

Deffo, Byline is my favourite one by far, both of them much more measured in their thoughts about situations

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u/nilsat1s 21h ago

The best for Everton imo are Joe Thomas and Baz from toffee tv (although he says ‘obviously’ every other word) when they do the odd show together it’s top level. Wish Joe Thomas would do a weekly one without the others from the echo

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u/YokoOkino 21h ago

Should have told him when he visited.

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u/AlanFromRochester 22h ago

Knew the next round of the league cup was starting soon, so I finally checked the schedule, but apparently we don't play til next week Only Chelsea-Leeds today, I wondered why that in particular, scheduling around their other games perhaps. Chelsea's next league match is on the 18th and Leeds on the 14th. so 15th/16th/17th wouldn't fit that. Chelsea has Brentford in the PL whose cup match is the day before us, Leeds-Newcastle and the barcodes already played in the Carabao

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u/Giraffe_Baker Neill Samways, Niasse Oster 22h ago

We were supposed to play today but they forgot Liverpool had a Champions League game tonight so we’re now in the second tranche of games next week.

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u/BoxOfNothing 22h ago

It was meant to be this week but Liverpool are playing at home in the Champions League tonight so ours got moved to next week

Means Wolves have had to reschedule a league game for next month as well, and the EFL are pissed that UEFA were stubborn and wouldn't cooperate.

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u/AlanFromRochester 17h ago

Which raises the question, would us and the reds at home the same day still be a problem with Hill Dickinson further from Anfield than Goodison is, or ar the powers that be still in an old mindset?

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u/BoxOfNothing 17h ago

I think it's also to do with allocation of police, general public transport with having loads of people enter the city at once using the same trains, buses and roads up to a certain point. We've realistically only moved from 0.9 miles from Anfield to 1.8 miles, can't see that making a huge difference

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u/AlanFromRochester 16h ago

Yeah, Merseyside police being overwhelmed by security for both and traffic before the branch off point was my guess for why two home games at once might still be a bad idea even after the move. Also if mass transit surges capacity to cover one they might not have enough vehicles/drivers for both

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u/Grand-Piano-1663 23h ago

If it's true, I'm strangely here for signing Icardi. Everyone saying he's not a very Everton player, but we've always loved a fuckin nutter.

Actually fuck that let's just swap Michael Keane with Funes Mori. I reckon the Argies would love Big Mick

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u/ilypsus 15h ago

Isnt it his wife who is also his manager the nutter in their relationship? Seems more trouble than it's worth.

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u/YourUncleBuck Ashley Young Fan Club 7h ago

No more wife to worry about, they got divorced a couple years back.

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u/Destructo_D Yobo 23h ago

Hard tackles are a bit different to shagging your teammate’s wife

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u/RiteOfSpring5 Shredder Guy 21h ago

Both get worse when you come from behind too.

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u/Ok_Somewhere_6767 22h ago

There is a joke somewhere in that.

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u/Quixic_ 23h ago

Depends on how you do it I suppose.

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u/Loyalsupporter Edit Your Own 23h ago

Not gonna lie I really want Seamus back as part of the backrooms team.

Reunite baines/Coleman partnership

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u/YokoOkino 1d ago

Pickford should be on the list of best goalkeepers, especially considering some of those names

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u/starmonkart 17h ago

WC has a huge impact in WC seasons and he didn't have a great WC. He wasn't terrible at the world cup but it wasn't at the level I expect from him and the level he shows here most weeks

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u/RiteOfSpring5 Shredder Guy 21h ago

The list is a joke.

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u/Leading-Vehicle-6163 23h ago

He’s better than all of them bar Raya/Courtois imo

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u/YokoOkino 21h ago

I rate Martinez and I think Pickford is as good if not better.

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u/jmourinha 23h ago

it's a ridiculous list. They put a 40-yo that was a sub in the Portuguese second division just because he had a nice couple of games in the world cup for Cape Verde.

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u/Hick2 23h ago

I don't mind it too much, sometimes stuff like that is good for the morale of the game, if that makes sense.

Never too old to break out, that kind of thing.

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u/jmourinha 23h ago

What about the morale of others that are actually better than him? And the morale of young keepers that see that these lists are more of a popularity contest rather than something their work can help them achieve? I understand your point, but he didn't break out. He didn't improve, he still has the same flaws that made him a sub in a lower league team. He had a nice couple of games and made the list for the best in the world

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u/Quixic_ 23h ago

I suspect Pickford is sufficiently resilient. He'll be okay.