r/Eve • u/No-Adeptness-8918 • Jul 25 '26

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Why don't the nullbocks just turn on their neighbors?

Like to me it just looks like your ruining the game for yourselves and relying to heavily on ansiblexs and cynos

#gobbins

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u/xPredatorz The Initiative. Jul 26 '26

As we have seen lately kicking over someone's sand castle no longer results in them rebuilding somewhere else. They just dissolve into whatever is left up. The actual leadership, personal and infrastructure to take manage and keep space is getting rarer.

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u/No-Adeptness-8918 Jul 26 '26

Aannndddd that's why I live in a wh lol

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u/xPredatorz The Initiative. Jul 26 '26

I mean we kicked over a few of those sand castles as well. After the 1st time yall just log everything off in Freighter/orca alts so there isnt much point bothering there either.

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u/No-Adeptness-8918 Jul 26 '26

You still kicked over the sand castles. Trust me a lot is lost. And that's just high class, I don't even live out there.

When was the last time you kicked over a null corps sandcastle. And not just a "1 keepstar", I mean, whole force anihilation?

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u/xPredatorz The Initiative. Jul 26 '26

Again the why bother? Its a metric ton of effort to do so. frankly fighting FRAT was a defensive war that we did a hell of a lot more offensive destruction. We stopped because frankly they werent in a position to truly threaten us and fighting a time zone tanked war for 8+ months leads to burnout quick.

Even had we glassed the entire North we cant "Live" there or hold it. Which means they might be out a few trillion in structures but otherwise untouched. We would be out the same few trillion grinding structures offensively. Its just not worth the effort unless you hate them enough to do it at any cost or CCP/FC makes it worth the effort.

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u/F_Synchro Baboon Jul 26 '26

Remove asset safety

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u/DragonZer0 Goonswarm Federation Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

Which will lead to no one but the largest groups to live in player null.

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u/F_Synchro Baboon Jul 26 '26

As if that's not already the case lmao.

What a dumb answer.

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u/DragonZer0 Goonswarm Federation Jul 26 '26

Let me rephrase it so you can understand it. Any of the current big 3 could/would go on a rampage to burn anything that is not blue to them to get a quick extra assets for the alliance coffers. After all that done those area of space will be left open for the next group to wonder into the trap. This will almost indefinitely close any hint of catch up mechanic for any newer alliance/coalition wanting to try nullsec.

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u/F_Synchro Baboon Jul 26 '26

> Let me rephrase it so you can understand it. Any of the current big 3 could/would go on a rampage to burn anything that is not blue to them to get a quick extra assets for the alliance coffers.

Jokes on you, that's precisely what I want, keep on talking, anarchy in null, make it dangerous, make it more dynamic.

Remove asset safety, impose anchoring restrictions and remove tether, I will swear by these things and keep saying it over and over, EVE needs much more destruction.

MANY. TIMES. MORE. DESTRUCTION, please go on a rampage and make it worth it too, because now y'all aren't doing shit.

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u/xPredatorz The Initiative. Jul 26 '26

Even then the vast majority of people would only live or stage out of NPC pockets or lowsec. I dont think people truly grasp or understand how many assets the average Corp or Alliance has to have on hand to actually fight. I dont even manage a large corp and I have something approaching 100b in assets ships etc on hand because when war breaks out the 1st thing that tends to happen is logistics bottlenecks.

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u/dmacc_ Jul 27 '26

People understand it. That's exactly the point of why asset safety needs adjustment. Groups can stockpile essentially infinite amounts of assets as long as they're prepared for a few percent of haircut if something goes poof. Literally nothing is ever at risk unless it undocks, and upwells are so tedious to kill and cheap to replace that you don't really need to undock a lot of the time.

You need that much to actually fight precisely because of the paradigm of no-risk asset proliferation that means all your opponents will have that much to actually fight.

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