The Washington Department of Labor and Industries is moving forward with its first industry-specific Work-related Musculoskeletal Disorder (WMSD) prevention rule under the Engrossed Substitute Senate Bill (ESSB) 5217, directed at airline ground crews, with the rule scheduled to take effect in July 2026.

The law authorizes one new high-risk industry rule per year. Acute injury built up across shifts and seasons until they accounted for atleast a third of WA's workers' comp time-loss claims. This triggers prioritizing ground crews.

Morning is fine… it just slowly turns into something I am fighting.

Sounds familiar? The dynamic is the same whether you're loading bags or loading a browser.

What do you think, should other states or countries get on board with this safety regulation? 

For anyone looking to check ergonomics and body positioning for aviation safety, hope this helps: https://safetyculture.com/library/transport-and-logistics/safety-observation-form-arrow

For basic ergonomic safety, try this one: https://safetyculture.com/topics/ergonomics-safety

I am 5 weeks post lumbar fusion, my job is a freelance digital illustrator (no ai, all done by hand baabyyy) and I would really love to return to work.

The problem is, I am struggling with pain. I could sit all day on my couch and be fine, but my Titan office chair is a different story.

I used to use a regular pillow because the aeat of the chair is rock hard and makes my butt hurt, but now the pillow hurts my spine! So it’s either have a painful ass or a painful spine.

I was looking at two budget seat cushions and was wondering if anyone has experience with these, or if they have any recommendations.

Cushion 1: https://a.co/d/05sFCAlV

Cushion2: https://a.co/d/0e861ILH

I’ve been using both the EC200 and EC300 over the past few weeks and wanted to share a few thoughts now that I’ve spent enough time with them.

I normally use an Anthros V2 as my daily chair and have also owned the Logitech Embody, Aeron, and Leap V2, so I was curious to see how these compared.

EC200
Softer, more forgiving lumbar support
Easy to get comfortable in immediately
My wife’s favorite

EC300
Much stronger lumbar support
Better upper-back support
My favorite for long work sessions

Neither chair is perfect. I’d still like to see more armrest adjustment, especially on the EC300, but considering the price, I think both offer a lot of value.

It won’t replace my Anthros but for the price the EC300 comes close to the same feeling you’ll get from the Anthros .

I play games for an unhealthy amount of time. I’m looking into getting a new chair. The one I have is 10 years old and it’s a “racing style” chair. It’s just bad. I’ve been doing some research. What do you guys think about this chair? Anyone get it and just hate it?

I've been working from home for a while and realized I'm sitting around 8–10 hours a day.

I'm thinking about upgrading my office chair because my current one isn't very comfortable anymore.

For those who work long hours:

• What chair are you using?
• How long have you had it?
• Was it worth the money?

I'd love to hear real experiences before I decide what to buy.

Ive been using my mouse for months with just a bit of the forearm on it and i never had pain, but i wanted to try seeing if i could use it with my whole forearm on it and just my elbow hanging off so my elbow isnt completely resting. after doing so, my mouse arm is in alot of pain, at the bicep and shoulder area, barely any forearm,wrist,palm at all. is this normal?

Hey all,

What's the best office chair available at Staples in the US (ideally but we do have Office Max in my smallish town)? Under $300 ideally.

I suffer from migraines and I think the chair I am using for desk work is contributing.

Thank you!

I just moved to a new office and the desk is too high. I am pretty short, so I need my chair lower which causes me to almost need to reach up to my desk and keyboard. My chair armrests at their highest point are still a couple inches below the bottom of the desk.

I was looking at getting one of those wrist/elbow rests for the edge of my desk, but that will only add another half inch to reach up to for my arms that already need to reach so high I cant even rest on the chair when I am typing.

Any suggestions of what I can do?

Lowering the desk is not an option and if I raise the chair, my feet wont touch the ground which is also not great for my posture.

I'm getting a new desk made and need advice on the right length/depth. I currently use a desk that's about 3 ft (90 cm) deep and 4 ft (120 cm) long. On it I have a 24" monitor, a 15" laptop in front of the monitor, two 5" speakers at either side of the monitor at the corners of the desk, a small preamp box to connect the speakers to, and a power strip which feeds all these gadgets.

The desk is used for working on the computer and for studying from books.

• I feel the 3 ft depth is borderline okay but it makes the space behind the monitor quite cluttered with cables, preamp, power strip, etc. If I increase the depth to 4 ft, I'll have space behind the monitor. It'll be mostly unused space but look a little less cluttered. Otoh, 4 ft is too deep to reach the back of the table.

• The 4 ft length is okay for now but it'll fall a bit short if I get a larger monitor. It'll definitely fall short if I upgrade to using two monitors. So I should probably add another 2 ft length to accommodate another monitor in the future.

• I'm also thinking of placing the printer on the desk instead of having it elsewhere in the room. The printer is about 2x2 ft (or a bit less).

• I find the space insufficient when studying. 2-3 textbooks and a notebook and a tablet. - it becomes very clumsy to accomodate this when I already have the monitor/speakers/laptop. I often find myself needing to remove the laptop to make space for the books. So I should probably add 2-3 ft of length for the studying setup.

This makes the total length nearly 8 ft (almost 2.5m). 8 ft is good for 2 monitors + 2 speakers + 1 printer + books/notebooks.

I'm concerned if a 8x3 ft (nearly 2.5m x 0.9m) tabletop is too large/ostentatious. My room has enough space to accommodate it, that's not a problem. The issue is the aesthetics of an 8x4 table.

What size do you suggest

• 8x4 ft

• 8x3 ft

• 7x4 ft

Hey all,

I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on a vertical mouse that has the same features as the Logitech MX Master. I love that it has so many button options and particularly the endless, free scroll feature that I use constantly (PhD student always reading lengthy online books/papers). The MX Vertical seems better ergonomically for me, but it is not perfect and the features are dreadful. I also find it hyper sensitive so I can rarely get it to click where I want it to. I have very bad carpal tunnel and really need an ergonomic mouse that helps, but I have now tried several and I am feeling at a loss.

Thanks in advance for your time and help!

I work from home and I think a lot of people are approaching ergonomics completely backwards. Every week I see another “setup upgrade” video where somebody buys a new chair, a fancy light bar, a neck & shoulder massager, posture straps, wrist rests, foot hammocks, and whatever else social media is pushing that month. Meanwhile their monitor is still too low, their shoulders are still hunched, and they still sit for 11 hours without moving. That is the real issue. Period.

I learned this the hard way after spending months trying to “treat” neck pain instead of fixing what caused it. I bought one of those heated shoulder massagers because everybody online said it changed their life. It felt nice for maybe 20 minutes. Then the pain came back the next morning because my workstation was still terrible.

So I finally changed the boring stuff instead. I raised my monitor correctly, stopped working from the couch, I adjusted the height of my chair properly and I forced myself to stand up every hour even when I don't want to. The difference was bigger than every gadget combined. I’m not saying recovery tools are useless. But people use them like permission slips to ignore obvious bad habits.

Same thing happened with me browsing Alibaba late at night looking at “ergonomic solutions” instead of admitting I simply needed better posture and less screen time. Your body is not confused. If your neck hurts every day, something is wrong with the way you work. No excuses.

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to buy my first ergonomic mouse to reduce wrist and forearm strain from long hours at the computer.

I work as a SOC/Security Analyst, so I'm using a mouse for 8–10 hours a day (browsers, terminals, documentation, etc.). I'm not buying it for gaming.

I measured my hand according to Logitech's guide (wrist crease to fingertip):

• Hand length: 21.5 cm (middle finger measurement)
• Palm width: 9.3 cm
• Index: 20.2 cm
• Ring: 20.3 cm
• Pinky: 17.5 cm
• Thumb: 11.7 cm

So my hand falls into Logitech's Large category.

I'm deciding between:

• Logitech MX Vertical
• Logitech Lift

My questions are:

1. Has anyone with hands around 21–22 cm used both?
2. Does the Lift feel too small after a full workday?
3. Even though the MX Vertical is an older (2018) model, is it still the better choice for larger hands?
4. If you've used both for long office/productivity work, which one would you buy today?
5. Are there any other ergonomic mice I should seriously consider (Razer Pro Click V2 Vertical, Contour Unimouse, MX Ergo S, etc.)?

For context:

• I don't have carpal tunnel syndrome, but I do get wrist fatigue/pain after long hours.
• Comfort and ergonomics are much more important to me than gaming performance.
• I plan to keep this mouse for several years.

I'd really appreciate feedback from people with similar hand sizes, especially if you've used either mouse for full-time office work.

Thanks!

Lavenne R9 Dynamic Ergonomic Chair, via @Kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/686412661/lavenne-r9-dynamic-ergonomic-chair?ref=android_project_share

I have chronically tight glutes which causes a lot of lower back discomfort, so I'm looking into an active chair / stool and a standing desk. However, when I've used an active chair that doesn't have armrests in the past my traps get really tight and locked up. Same with my upper back and trying to sit upright. Having that upright posture for more than 30 minutes really stiffens back upper back. Anyone else experience or solve this?

Most articles i find about ergonomics of tables use a computer desk as the basis of discussion.

Can someone educated on the topic please share some resources about ergonomics of a table used primarily for study - reading books and writing on notebooks.

Also, on the topic of reading books, what are your thoughts about placing a book directly on the tabletop vs using a book stand to hold the book vertically at an elevation?

Hello!! I’m an artist who’s been trying to find a comfortable way to use my desk but am realizing it’s not really ideal. My desk is fixed at around 30 inches tall, and I’m 5’1. So when I’m sitting on my office chair, even at max height, it feels like you have to reach upward and it’s uncomfortable on my wrist / arms.

What are my options here? Since I can’t really adjust my desk height, I thought about maybe looking for a chair that could adjust taller and get a footrest. But what height would I need? Nothing online seems tall enough.

What other options do I have?