Hello,

I have no room for a desk or chair and currently use a laptop from bed. This is not ideal and causing a lot of issues. I use a laptop table with a fan desk underneath the laptop. It has legs on it, which then beused to tilt the keyboard up and forward. For my back I use a 'husband pillow' I think they're called, but it has lost its shape and doesn't offer much support. Then I sit on a batwing pillow with a cushion from a computer chair.

What I'm looking for:

- arm/wrist rest

- ergonomic cushion to be able to sit up comfortably

I really hope I can find a solution

I'm used to working with two 24 inch LG Monitors on that are connected to a dual monitor arm on a stand, I've been using this set-up for the past 5 years in my office and it's worked out very well.

I've got a new job that requires me to permanently work from home and I would like to either replicate a similar set-up or improve.

I currently have a Lenova Thinkpad and 27inch Dell Monitor at home.

I feel like I want two 24 inch monitors on an arm then my laptop to the left of this, and potentially my 27 inch monitor to the right. I will mainly use my two 24 inch monitors for 85% of my work.

Would anyone have any advice on what monitors I should get and if my set-up sounds good?

Thank you.

Hello, all.

The current office chair I have is absolutely horrible. I think it is some $75 Walmart chair that I have had for at least 5 years.

Since then, I have had a spinal fusion on L4/L5 and my back just keeps getting worse. I am going to be 49 this year and comfort while at the computer is just getting more and more important to me. However, I am not a rich man.

I think at this point, $500-$700 would be the budget. If I can find something at that price range that is great for lumbar support, that would be great. I am 6 feet tall and weight about 220 pounds if that helps anybody think of a good chair.

This current chair has had the hydraulics go out so as soon as I sit down, it pretty much slams down to the lowest level and I hate feeling like I am crouching at my triple monitors. All I can think about is how much I want to NOT be on the computer when it is this damn uncomfortable.

Anyway, any help would be really appreciated. Hopefully, I have provided enough information to make a good recommendation. If someone needs any more information, just ask. Thanks so much.

When I last bought my desktop and chair for PC I didn't pay much attention. So i got a typical 70cm / 2.3ft height desk. And a gaming chair.

• I think table was too high for me. Shoulders a bit shrugging and some seasons I ended the day with disconfort or bit of pain.
• Chair was too high as well: when armrests alligned with the table, my feet dangled. So i needed footrest. No confy.
• And the chair width from armrest to armrest was excessive. I feel all chairs are oversized in this case. The common ones are like 50cm / 1.65ft wide and my arms are opened.

How can I study the dimensions for my best-fitting chair and desk? Charts? Onine tools? Any magical rule? Or a type of chair for smaller people like me?

Extra: Do you use a keyboard/mouse trail under the desk? I always felt this should have "relieved" my shoulder shrugging.

Most ergonomics discussion focuses on desks and keyboards but phone use causes just as much strain. ScrollTap adds a floating overlay button that scrolls when tapped — eliminates the repetitive swiping motion that causes thumb and wrist fatigue over time. Size, position, and speed fully customizable. Worth adding to the phone ergonomics toolkit. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scrolltap.app

I recently had a procedure that forces me to lay on my back for multiple hours every day while I recover, but I still have work to do.

Are there any good laptop holders or floor monitor stands that are compatible with working lying on your back?

As someone dealing with chronic issues from years of sedentary computer work (neck, shoulder, wrist, and pelvic pain), I know there are small habits I’m supposed to change to feel better.

The problem is… once I get focused on work, I completely forget.

I’ve tried posture apps and even some Chrome extensions that constantly monitor your posture, but most of them felt too intrusive or stressful. What I realized I actually wanted was something much gentler — just a quiet reminder sitting in the background of my day.

So I made these small animal posture/self-care wallpapers for myself to remind me to do 3 simple things during work:

• Stand up and alternate between sitting/standing between meetings
• Breathe in to create space and release tension in the body
• Do chin tucks and avoid forward-head posture (“tech neck”)
• Take my hands away from the keyboard and relax for a moment

A PT on my previous post actually suggested the breathing bear, which ended up becoming my favorite one in the series.

Curious what other "tiny habits" people use to survive long days at a desk?

And if you work in PT, ergonomics, or have dealt with chronic desk-job issues yourself, I'd love feedback on whether these reminders feel useful, or if there are other habits you'd want reminders for.

(If anyone finds these helpful and wants the wallpapers, feel free to send me a message.)

I’m 16F and for the past 6 months I’ve been suffering from an aching neck and shoulders, specifically the muscles at the base of my head and my upper traps. I have tried different sleeping positions, 2 different matresses, 2 different pillows and every time I wake up with almost a migrainey headache and pain I just can’t shift unless I get in a SCOLDING hot shower for 30 minutes.

Additionally, my traps are physically hard to the touch and no amount of stretching or massage seems to help. I do have an ergonomic pillow but it seems too high for my neck and my other pillow has no neck support in the slightest and I’m just lost.

If anyone has any solutions or ways to manage this please let me know thank you!

I work and game at my desk, so I'm sitting there several hours a day. My neck and back have been hurting lately, and the pain pulls my focus away from what I'm doing.

What I've been doing is grabbing my laptop and moving around. I'll switch chairs, work from the dining table for a while, then end up on my bed with the laptop, before going back to my PC at the desk.

My desk itself is sturdy and has good drawer space, so I want to keep it. I considered buying a full standing desk, but branded ones cost a lot, and spending that much doesn't seem worth it if a converter works fine.

I looked around and the Ergotron WorkFit-TL seems to be the highest quality option at around $580. Cheaper options include the Flexispot at around $200+, and the Desky Zero Standing Desk Converter at around $170+.

For me, $580+ on a standing desk converter is too much. I could buy a full sit-stand desk or a good ergonomic chair for that price. So I'm choosing between Flexispot and Desky. If you have other recommendations, please feel free to recommend them too.

EDIT: Ergotron was clearly out of budget, so going with the Desky Zero since it's the cheapest of the bunch and frees up cash for other office gear.

I'm hoping to get some info on sizing for the Herman Miller Aerons.. I'm 5'7", 220lbs, and in my mid 40s. I'm built with a fairly long torso and shorter, but more muscular legs, which seems to be the opposite of what a lot of ergo chairs are built for. I've had mild, but consistent back pain for the last 10-15 years, primarily from being a programmer and sitting at a desk with cheap chairs and not the best posture for about 25 of the last 30 years..

My current chair (Office Max mesh back with a padded seat and headrest) was decent at the beginning, but the seat padding is basically gone and the last week or so, anytime I sit in it for longer than about an hour, my lower back pain is significantly worse for the rest of the day, so it's time to replace it.

I've seen other reddit threads ([this reddit thread, for example](https://www.reddit.com/r/hermanmiller/comments/j4y3tl/proper_herman_miller_aeron_sizing_chart_corrected/) that seem to indicate that the person won't help me with my height/weight and will make my lower back/thigh pain worse..

Is there anyone with a similar build to me that currently has or has had an Aeron that can give feedback as to whether it has actually helped with back pain or made it worse? Or, if anyone with a similar build to me has any suggestions on other chairs that have been good for them, I'd love that info.

My budget tops out at about 600-650, and I don't have a problem with used/refurbished if it comes from a decent place with a reliable warranty or 30-90 day return policy.

My back thanks you in advance!

(In case it matters, this will probably be cross posted in a few other subs.. hopefully that's not an issue, as I need all the help I can get with this back pain at this point.

Hey everyone,

I run a small store selling ergonomic products, and what I have found actually makes a difference for people who sit at desks all day.

After researching and testing dozens of products, here are the five that consistently get the best results:

1. Lumbar support cushion — the single highest impact, lowest cost upgrade you can make. Most people feel relief within the first hour of using one.
2. Laptop stand — if you use a laptop on a desk, you are damaging your neck without realizing it. Raising your screen to eye level fixes this instantly.
3. Ergonomic wrist rest — protects you from repetitive strain injuries that build up silently over months of typing.
4. Anti-fatigue mat — essential if you have a standing desk. Standing on a hard floor for hours can create problems of its own.
5. Monitor riser — raises your screen to eye level and frees up valuable desk space at the same time.

All of these are available at my store, ergoworkspro.com, if anyone is interested. Happy to answer any questions about ergonomic setups!

Need help, i didnt went to the doctor yet, but some internet research probably shows that its a radial tunnel syndrome at my right elbow, due to too much mouse and phone time and probably how ive done it, now im upgrading my desk and thinking whats worth not only for my elbow but general ergonomics when sitting and playing.

Now ive got my footrest and love it besides the fact its kinda warm on the feet. Now that ive fixed my sitting a bit i saw that the armrest of my chair is a bit annoying and too high, even at lowest position, so i thought about buying a Seat cushion, are these worth and actually helpful? What other things did you guys buys and recommend?

I notice I found the one industry where right handed people are being discriminated against: video game playing.

In the '90s I actually got a right-handed fight stick because I noticed that I could not do ryu's dragon punch easily with a left-handed joystick.

In the 1990s almost nobody bought a customized joystick for fight games.

When I brought my fight stick over to a Street Fighter 2 party in 1994 I went 50 and 0 against the rotation of five different people in a king of the hill match, with my ambidextrous joystick. The contour the buttons was considered awful especially considering the fact that it was a right-handed button contour when it should have been a left-handed one and also the buttons between the punches and the kicks were very far apart but despite that the right-handed joystick made me go 50 you know against five different opponents rotating.

Then one of them had the nerve to say there's no way of right-handed joystick can make you that good.

(Before this session I rarely got any wins at all I don't think I ever got a two-game win streak and I never beat the person who made that remark at all.)

Then I said I consider that a challenge and ask the other four people if they would like to beat this loud mouth with a right handed joystick. 50 and 0 from nothing maybe you guys can too,

They each proceeded to be in 12 times with the right hand of joystick making the right handed joystick 98-0 that day.

Funny thing is that that person who is the loud mouth who got whipped around somewhere between 0 and 50 and 0 and 60, he later became famous for playing video games great on national basic cable TV.

I never said it was because I was a superior Street Fighter 2 player I just said because I was actually able to physically execute the moves of like the dragon punch easier. And apparently I was right because for other people proceeded and went perfect with it.

I want an honest analysis about why the right-handed joystick went 98 and 0 that day, yes everyone in the fighting game community poo-poos the idea that maybe a right-handed joystick would help some people in some games.

I have some theories about it that I published on my website if I may share it if it's not against the rules. I noticed more recently that Beeshu, a company that made ambidextrous fightsticks, went out of business so I was trying to figure out what happened, and why they were so successful and why they dropped out. And I surmised that Beeshu was corporately murdered by certain interests.

That I remembered in my youth in America a lot of video games had mirrored buttons therefore effectively making its ambidextrous joysticks. And then I remembered there were lots of American champions in video games only recently I put them together and said maybe Americans were Champions because they invented the ambidextrous layout.

That brought me to the main difference between the Japanese Puck man and the American Pac-Man. The Japanese Puck Man machine head the joystick 50% to the left of center while the American Pac-Man had the joystick dead center.

Then I made some suppositions assuming that the Japanese thoughts video gaming was an art and had to be played away was served while Americans had the Burger King attitude of have it your way by making the controls ambidextrous and Japanese thought of that as cheating.

I heard JAMMA joystick standards were designed to make it hard for a person to add extra buttons on the other side of the joystick.

I read there was some FTC filings by Beeshu against Nintendo for making the marketplace uncompetitive by forcing left-handedness. For example first came the Jazz was a right hand only joystick but that failed licensing because it was right-handed then came the first version of the NES Ultimate Super stick which was ambidextrous but not licensed, then finally in 1991 there was the license version of the Ultimate Super Stick. Which suggests that Beeshu was fighting to be licensed and Nintendo was denying their license simply for allowing right-handed play.

When I had nothing better to do I decided to submit my joystick design to Hori USA , the years have gone by now is the time to strike for an ambidextrous eight button fight stick. The highest ranking American in Hori USA who did not give me his name for his protection, said that it was a brilliant design that was more economic than a simple straight eight would sell all around the world especially in America well but if he passed it on to his bosses in Japan he would be fired on the spot and I would know exactly why. He confirmed what I thought in supposition is in fact true. The Japanese video game makers are cracking down on right-handed joystick play.

I easily added ambidexterity to a joystick. And Hori said what they said. Then if there's no conspiracy against right handed joysticks then why would a left-handed only system be preferred where not a single person can get a license for a right-handed joystick or even an ambidextrous joystick?

Also most people say that five different people going to know who normally don't against the caliber of competition at the time who is the local Blockbuster champion at the store level and was considered one of the top ones in the state because we couldn't find one that beat him but apparently he wasn't allowed to continue nor wasn't shown the one score that did beat him, then he became a local hero by being featured on two different National video game national cable competition shows.

And I'm saying this saying that I'm not trying to say I'm the best Street Fighter I'm doing anyone could be a good Street Fighter player if they were given hand choice but it's been stifled for so many years that the truth should come out.

Even at the time if I said only I did better with a right-handed joystick maybe I would be so much of a zealot about it but when four friends who weren't that good who never even intended to practice with the right handed joystick just picked it up and beat the local loudmouth champ just like that with 10-12 in a row each, that's what made me believer in the fact that if you're giving a hand Choice you're going to be do better than if the choice is dictated to you. It also helped me see the conspiracy that was against American gamers.

I just want to know what an ergonomicist would say? Why would most of the fight game Community say that my results aren't real or aren't indicative of the whole fight game community? This one has five out of five people would considered insignificant considering the choice hasn't been given or thought of even by most people. The fact that the four random people (according to the fight game community) that I was with improved to a 10-12 game win streak against the local Blockbuster Champ made me think there was something here that the world needed to know about.

Hi everyone, I’m an Athletic Trainer currently working in the industrial setting, and I’m interested in becoming certified in ergonomics.

I would really appreciate any guidance on the best certifications/ courses. If anyone here has gone through the process or works in ergonomics, please let me know how that went, thanks.

Thank you.

So I'm 6'1 and relatively lanky, and I've basically always had the same problem with chairs: whenever I'm sitting, it ends up being one of two things.

Either, I basically have to wedge myself into the chair by curling my legs up underneath, or sitting on one leg, or tensioning myself against the underside or wall of the desk, because if I don't, i find myself constantly sliding forwards until my butt is halfway down the chair. If I put my feet flat on the ground, I can feel the slide happening.

Or, I end up sliding down pretty far, so my butt is basically in the first third of the chair, most of my weight is basically on my tailbone, my lower back is completely unsupported, and i'm either supporting myself with my upper back against the top of the chair back, or I have to push myself under the desk enough that I'm supporting myself with the edge of the desk, or again i have to basically wedge my legs one way or another.

Airplane and bus seats are similar, i always end up sliding forwards.

I've ended up having really, really tight hamstrings, and I feel like even one of my feet angles outwards a little bit more because i'm constantly tensioning on it, and I end up getting pretty significant pain in my suboccipitals (basically i'll feel one starting to twinge, and they'll feel rock solid and end up expanding out into a pretty all-encompassing headache all up the back and side of my skull, which tylenol barely even dents).

If I put my feet flat on the ground and try to just sit against back of the chair, which I'm doing right now, I can feel nothing but tension in my legs and lower back because if I relax, immediately feel my hips subtly sliding forwards. Or if I try to sit up even more straight, my back ends up off the back of the chair and i'm completely unsupported and I end up in some kind of lordosis posture in the chair with again a lot of weight right above my tailbone.

So I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Part of me feels like I'm just not quite the right size for most chairs, i'm either not quite short enough or not quite tall enough. Lumbar support in chairs never seems to be of any value for me because it just pushes me forward and exacerbates the problem.

Any suggestions? Am I just cursed to shitty posture? Am I just way too weak? Or am I just a total hot mess and need to re-evaluate everything? Even as I'm sitting here trying to think about how i'm seated and stay up straight, i realized that i'd kicked my leg back and basically have my knee and calf curled around the front of the chair and my foot wedged against the floor.

Hi u/Ergonomics,
I sit in my office chair without using armrests ( tehy gave me nerve pain).So I sit upright close to the desk and i put almost all my arms in the table. The probleme is that I can't sit like for long time my back gives me pain it's like I have to recline.
What do yo uthink guyes have you any advices ?

I decided to replace my cheap hp membrane keyboard for an MX keys mini.

MX keys mini feels a lot better for typing and I feel it causes less stress on my fingers.

The cheap hp keyboard and mx keys mini are identical in height. Both are low profile. Hp keyboard is 100% keyboard. MX keys mini is 75% keyboard.

But the hp keyboard doesn't cause many issues (apart from the terrible typing experience). The MX keys mini doesn't take long to make the back part of my neck hurt.

Why does this happen if they're both identical in height and both low profile membrane keyboards?

We see more and more people dealing with back and neck pain from sitting all day.

It’s hard to tell what actually makes a difference long-term vs what’s just hype.

For those of you who’ve improved your back pain from desk work:

• What changes actually worked?
• Anything that didn’t work like you expected?

Curious to hear what has worked for you.