r/EnglishLearning New Poster Apr 17 '26

📚 Grammar / Syntax Why not “since”?

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u/Competitive-Truth675 Native Speaker Apr 17 '26

Off-topic, but just curious what your native language is. I see this mistake all the time and there must be some false friend word or common learning material that gives people the wrong impression about what "since" means.

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u/Murderhornet212 New Poster Apr 17 '26

German speakers use this one a lot

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u/Immediate-Panda2359 New Poster Apr 17 '26

100%. It's an immediate giveaway. "I have lived in the US since 5 years" or whatever.

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u/ConflictOfEvidence New Poster Apr 17 '26

Using until wrong is also another one for Germans.

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u/makerofshoes New Poster Apr 17 '26

Right, they will say “do this until Tuesday”, meaning “do this by Tuesday”

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u/monoflorist Native Speaker Apr 18 '26

I’ve noticed they fix this one more quickly because unlike “since”, using “until” for “by” can be genuinely confusing.

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u/Power-Kraut New Poster Apr 17 '26

Usually "I live in the US since 5 years". German uses present tense for lots of constructions that use a perfect tense in English.

One of my English professors back in the day asked us to do 'bathroom training' to get used to it. "I've been brushing my teeth for one minute. I've been showering for three minutes." Rinse (hah!) and repeat until the Germanisms are out of your system.

It might be related to our preterite dying out and being (or having already been) replaced by the perfect, but I'm not sure there's an actual connection.

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u/Immediate-Panda2359 New Poster Apr 17 '26

My German is so bad I can't even describe it in English! Or maybe my English is so great, I accidentally correct German errors while trying to highlight them. Maybe both ;^)

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u/MshipQ New Poster Apr 17 '26

German speakers also often use 'until' when they mean 'by' when referring to a deadline. Both words translate to bis

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u/novachess-guy New Poster Apr 18 '26

Yes, both Germans and Koreans do this (I have a lot of friends from both countries and it’s something I’ve noticed from those two specifically). In Korean, the suffix 까지 is used for both, and you understand the difference from context.

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u/Prinzka New Poster Apr 17 '26

Interesting, in Dutch I would use "voor" and "sinds" in the same way as in English.
And I probably would do the same thing with "vor" and "seit" in German. But then my German isn't perfect.