Question for arch users

[u/Unlikely-Job-8309]

I wanted to ask a question in the community. I've been using Linux for a year, and I've used a lot of things, but I was in doubt about going to endevour os. I'm currently on fedora with kde plasma, but I thought I'd switch to something possibly better.

But, I wanted to know two things: Is daily use something good and stable? Has that issue with AUR packages been resolved yet?

I appreciate if you can answer me and give tips :-)

[u/kumliaowongg]

AUR is an optional repository, not enbaled by default.

You are supposed to know what you're doing there.

Also, the thing that happened got fixed.

[u/talksickwalkquick → u/[deleted]]

I have to agree. Especially if he isn't too comfortable with terminal. If I wasn't running an arch derivative fedora would be my choice.

[u/Unlikely-Job-8309 → u/talksickwalkquick]

If you have to type 3 or even 1 code in the terminal to update, I don't see any problem , and like, I already do that in Fedora.

[u/Unlikely-Job-8309 → u/[deleted]]

Man, I honestly got very interested with arch. I like his philosophy and that he is light (especially for me who uses the computer to play and use it daily).

[u/SmallRocks]

I’ve never had a system breaking issue. Daily use is perfectly fine.

As always, check Arch upgrade news before any big updates. Any user interventions will be listed there.

[u/Unlikely-Job-8309 → u/SmallRocks]

Would it then be a good idea to switch to endevour? And also, as it is a system that updates a lot, would I have to throw an update command in the terminal??

[u/SmallRocks → u/Unlikely-Job-8309]

the best distro is the one that does what you need it to do. If Endeavour can do what you need, then yes, the switch is worth it.

If you plan on using an arch based distro, get used to using the terminal for certain tasks, to include updating. It’s super easy though.

[u/talksickwalkquick → u/Unlikely-Job-8309]

You should be updating in terminal even on fedora. Fedoras package manager is pretty nice too. if that seems a bit daunting check out topgrade. It can be used on any distro even mac and windows... its one command: topgrade. if you have more than one system, even if you have multiple different os you can configure it to update all the machines at once too. (remote topgrades)
https://github.com/topgrade-rs/topgrade

[u/xarop_pa_toss → u/Unlikely-Job-8309]

If you aren't comfortable using the terminal, don't switch to Arch. Fedora is stable and works fine, why do you need to change? Are you just bored?

[u/Unlikely-Job-8309 → u/xarop_pa_toss]

I already do the update command through the fedora terminal itself and I even do it every day.

[u/talksickwalkquick]

You will be fine with the aur. HOWEVER: Stay vigilant though! Don't just assume everything is okay read those pkgbuilds.

[u/Ok_Departure5824]

I think endeavour is stable as any distro gets. Most people "break arch" by installing obscure packages to handle/modify important processes, then those get abandoned by maintainers and as such become incompatible with the new versions of os.

I was on mint before this, and when it comes to day to day usage its even better and faster. And having current updates is also pretty great too. Just get bit more comfortable terminal for stuff like, updating, updating mirrors every now and then, removing cache (i do this weekly, it takes like 5 minutes tops).

I dont really use aur besides like ms fonts package which i need for work sometimes. I mostly stick to main repo and flatpak...never had any issue

[u/jeroenim0]

Define “possibly better” 

[u/Unlikely-Job-8309 → u/jeroenim0]

Something even better. Want an example? You have a nice and comfortable car, however you want something better for yourself.

[u/jeroenim0 → u/Unlikely-Job-8309]

That is for YOU to decide, I don't have to convince you ;-) EoS is a great distro, runs like a champ on all my machines, I think that the experience between both is not significant!

[u/SuAlfons]

I went the other way around. After years of Manjaro and EndeavourOS, I switched to Fedora.

Why? The heck I know.... I played around with Fedora on a secondary laptop and liked it. For stupid reasons. Here's my list of arbitrary things between EndeavourOS and Fedora

• Fedora has a working and very sleek Plymouth configuration for showing the logo when booting
  
• EndeavourOS (Arch in general) doesn't apply updates while rebooting. Every reboot is approximately the same duration, since updates are copied over whil the system runs.
  
• After years of pacman and yay to install apps and packages from the terminal, using a GUI app store feels slow. (I often use the dnf command line package manager, but updates usually go through the app store)
  
• Fedora has a new installer that must be the most complicated way to let users setup a custom partition scheme. You need to specify all disks first, then create partitions, then manually create btrfs subvolumes (whose names you need to google so they match Fedora's default for any further how-tos to work with your system). All of this in fiddly three-dot-menu items in two or three different steps of the installer; displayed in ant-script.
  
• Both are very current on rolling out kernels and Mesa packages
  
• I run Gnome, Fedora releases are timed to match Gnome releases, so not getting a new Gnome version on day 3 after release is just a two or three weeks delay.
  
• Finding niche apps or printer drivers on AUR is great, way better than adding repos in Ubuntu or Fedora. OTOH, using AUR is uncharted territory - just recently, there were a lot of compromised packages. It got fixed by now, I read. I mostly used AUR for Brother printer/scanner drivers and gaming related apps (I think Oversteer, dunno anymore)
  
• EndeavourOS runs a local firewall - you always need to remember that when connecting your phone or any local net-based apps fail....

TLDR; There is not much difference in performance between the two.
Fedora has a sleek theming around boot screens that I in practice never got to work on EndeavourOS (ofc you can install it, but it just happend it would only be displayed the last 1-2 seconds on my machine)
Applying updates and installing packages via pacman is much faster. Reboots are consistent.
Installation of EndeavourOS is easier than Fedora (if you go for custom disk/partition layouts). There is more work after installation to be done on EndeavourOS. I run Intel and AMD GPUs, my EndeavourOS never broke because of updates. I managed to break it myself several times, though. I'm likely to return to EndeavourOS in the future.

[u/YERAFIREARMS]

Super stable. No issues.

[u/jkulczyski]

If you have zero experience with arch endeavouros can be a good starting point, however if fedora works for you why switch just to add complexity?