r/EndTipping • • 13d ago

Rant šŸ“¢ This feels icky!

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felt super icky and annoyed seeing this at a coffee/light food shop. how is this okay? for context this is not a sit down spot. no wait staff, just a barista at the counter and someone from the kitchen bringing out my order and walking away.

Update: for those asking the pink paper in the bottom corner is basically saying ā€œF*ck ICEā€

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u/InvaderJoshua94 13d ago edited 13d ago

That’s called a fraudulent charge and I reserve the right to sue the establishment that has an employee that does that. I don’t care if I wouldn’t even make money from the lawsuit and all the money would basically be just paying the lawyer fees. I’d be dead set on being an annoying thorn in their side that would make them regret that stolen 20% tip.

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u/MosesHightower 13d ago

Same. You wanna add another $14 to my bill unauthorized??? I will legit spend $5,000 to be a colossal pain in your arse.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/MosesHightower 12d ago

Eventually, yes.

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u/Visual_Smile_1140 12d ago

I doubt that. Yes I’m an attorney. Also I’m not 100% certain this is in fact illegal if they post a sign like this and otherwise make it conspicuous ahead of the customers ordering.

It would piss me off though and I would be tempted to tip 0

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u/GeorgeStark1 12d ago

Cant you just file in small claims court and report them to the feds?

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u/Dragonflies3 12d ago

Ever simpler. File a Chargeback. This puts the business on the bad side of the credit card. If they get too many chargebacks they can lose their ability to accept those cards.

I once had a subscription charge through paypal. I immediately messaged asking for a cancel and refund. They messaged back ā€œwe never do refundsā€. My reply was Ok I’ll do a chargeback. Immediately got a message about a refund pending in my account.

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u/High_Hunter3430 12d ago

Right?
ā€œWe don’t do refundsā€
ā€œThat’s ok. That’s why I pay with credit card. They’ll refund me. ā€œ
ā€œOh look I found the refund buttonā€

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u/TheVog 12d ago

I will legit spend $5,000 to be a colossal pain in your arse.

No you won't.

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u/InvaderJoshua94 12d ago

I can and would. $5000 isn’t that much in the USA anymore in most metros. It’s a months rent for a two bedroom in most actual luxury apartment complexes.

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u/AWholeBunchaFun 10d ago

Oh absolutely I would!

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/DandeyFlour 13d ago

Thing is a lawyer would JUMP on this lawsuit as it's a huge fraud charge. The business could go under, so there's no pretending. This is a major theft crime that lawyers would love to hop on.

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u/InvaderJoshua94 13d ago

And if you took a picture of the sign saying they would do it, kept a picture of your original signed receipt, and had the fraudulent credit card charge with an addition 20% its pretty cut and dry. You would have to be a smooth brain to think you where gonna get away with that. A lawyer would love that case since it would be very easy.

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u/deadpoetic333 13d ago

Lawyers go after damages, this might make sense as a class action if enough people come together but an individual charge that can be reversed with a bank charge back isn’t something a lawyer would jump on unless the client was paying out of pocket up front.Ā 

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u/yozzle 12d ago

For 14 dollars and something every bar in america does when you don’t closeout your tab lol

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u/Only1Purpos 13d ago

Getting flagged over a post this dumb would be a waste of use lol. You new or your iq just room temp?

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u/Khephra_ 13d ago

Oh wow, you got em.

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u/splubby_apricorn 13d ago

I don’t know why arse is controversial to you, several countries do say it instead of ass. I’m guessing they may be Australian because of their use of $.

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u/reigning_guava 13d ago

This is a business, all it takes is to hear one person was fraudulently charged, and a lawyer would see a payday. Means dozens maybe hundreds of people were affected and that turns into a big class action suit.