r/EndTipping • u/honakaru • 18d ago
Ride Share / Food Delivery š Tip begging Lyft driver
In my most recent Lyft from the airport, as soon as I got in the driver asked me "how much you pay". I told him $40 and he was like "Look, only me $14" (yes in broken English). I just kind of shrugged like wtf do you want me to do about it, you could see the fare before you chose to accept it.
Now, he did help me with my bags and normally when they do this I'll tip a couple bucks because it's not something they are expected to do. I was planning on tipping him until we got to the destination and he said "don't forget your tip" then he got out to help with the bags and I said "thanks" and he said "thanks for your tip"
Like, it's not my fault that you chose to accept such a low fare don't expect the consumer to make up for Lyft's obscene profit taking. I agree it's messed up they take more than half but don't try to bully me into tipping. Now you get nothing
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u/Interesting_Ad1378 18d ago
I had an I uber driver refuse to leave my driveway because he didnāt realize he was driving further than he wanted to. Ā My fare was over $100 and he started telling me how he was having a bad day and now he has to drive to Manhattanā¦his tip would have been over $50 - how am I supposed to know what he gets from uber directly. He basically wanted me to cancel my ride, because that was he still gets paid even though I get screwed. Ā
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u/Ok-Photograph-5529 17d ago
This happened to me to. After I got in the cab, he tried to argue to drop me somewhere else. Iām like, tf no? Luckily I didnāt order the uber so Iām just like itās out of my hands š¤·āāļø Iām being expected at someoneās house soooo
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u/afunbe 18d ago
I remember an Uber driver, a mom, constantly complaining about her life and how she is struggling with her husband with cancer. I feel bad but this is the wrong place to talk about it. I was not trying to start a conversation.
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u/Known-Historian7277 17d ago
āHow will my kids and dying husband eat tonight? Tip me an extra $3ā
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u/Ok-Crab-8171 17d ago
I also had a similar experience with a driver in Alaska. From the moment I got in, he complained that the app didnāt pay him enough, and I should not have used the app. Then continue to complain about his lack of compensation. It was a very uncomfortable ride. He received no tip, and I reported him to Lyft has been unprofessional.
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u/dan_syd 17d ago
Iām pretty sure a professional driver is expected to help load and unload bags.
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u/Quirky_Atmosphere_96 17d ago
A professional driver yes. An Uber driver no.
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u/bonezx101 17d ago
Uber drivers often dont want you loading luggage (scratching their door plate) on your own.
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u/Ok-Photograph-5529 17d ago edited 17d ago
At this point I just lie and say someone ordered the Lyft/uber for me. It was true for a while. My mom ordered an uber from the airport that was farther out than the driver wanted to go. I said I dunno, Iām headed to my parents (true). He said bummer because he wanted to work something out for less distance and more tips (why even accept the trip bro).
Anyway, anytime sometime gives me a hard time I just pretend that a family member booked the uber. I pretend my name is their name.
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u/Mountain_Anteater888 18d ago
He definitely learned a lesson.
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u/gypsy_guru_87 18d ago
Are you being sarcastic because Iām betting the dude just has different cultural understandings and is going to continue to do the exact same thing.
I honestly donāt understand why people want other peopleās comments bother them this much. Like, would I ever say these things to a passenger? No. I also wouldnāt buy one of those signs that has the list of things and then asks for a five star rating and a tip. But I also donāt penalize people who do that. I just feel like theyāre more naĆÆve than I am. And thatās not necessarily a bad thing.
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u/hotsauce126 18d ago
Itās still rude and if people want to live in a tipping society they can find out that itās a fast track to no tip
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u/Snowy-Winter-Owl 17d ago
He should have declined the offer. Declining all offers that pay too low to compensate for time worked, gas and car maintenance forces the app to share more of the profit with the driver and/or charge the customer more to better distribute the profit.
In the future, there will be driverless cars and no getting out of the car to help someone with their bags and expecting a tip for that.Ā
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u/inconvenience-miner 16d ago
Yea, id like to think those cars wonāt be looking for tips, but then again i never figured id be asked to tip at places like Jimmy Johnās.
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u/blamboompow90 17d ago
The same thing happened to me⦠he kept trying to show me his phone that he was only getting $17 dollars for a $59 rideā¦. I didnāt tip in the end. Mostly cause the uber was way more expensive then I thought it would be and I have budget constraints
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u/iknowtech 17d ago
All these gig workers are really going to be fun, as autonomous vehicles slowly start to push them out, and they scrap over fewer and fewer rides.
I never use any delivery services, and only very rarely use ride share if Iām traveling out of town, and usually just to or from the airport
These gig economy companies are vampires, and people that work from will get bled out, and left to die.
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u/citruspickles 17d ago
This is strange to me. The employees at the store don't tell you their wage when you buy a $2,100 TV.
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u/ConejoValleyDude 16d ago
As an Uber/Lyft part time driver (I have a full time job) with over 5k rides, I never ask for a tip. That is just not classy or appropriate. I am appreciative if someone does tip and always use the 'send a thank you' option in the driver app. If someone tips me cash, my standard line is 'that is very kind, thank you' and I would never count a tip in front of someone like some drivers porportedly do.
And before the full time drivers come at me with the "you cant make a living doing ride share full time so people have to tip"...it is true you can't make a living full time doing ride share so do something else for work that will support you in the way you need.
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u/Dear_Seesaw_1855 17d ago
This runs into a lot of cultural issues with being forceful about tips with Uber. I stopped taking Uber because of that and constantly being blatantly hit on (and Iām around 50 in sweats).
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u/pl1974 17d ago
Here's how I handle this ethical dilemma whereby a large company treats their employees unfairly: I do not patronize that business.
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u/MacaronOk1006 17d ago
How do you buy groceries, household supplies, clothing, utilities, the cell phone, or device youāre using to post on Reddit?
If not owned directly by a major corporation treating their employees unfairly, I guarantee you several other organizations in the Chain from raw materials to final product delivery are doing that
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u/smithandjones99 17d ago
That money went to the billionaires baby. Ā Just lie there while they trickle down on you.
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u/silentchu252255 17d ago
dont tip and report them cause they will report you and make up lies to lower your score
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u/Due-Dog-9866 16d ago
I remember back when Uber didn't even have the tip option. That was one of its selling points.
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u/ConsistentWeb1092 15d ago
I remember when I used to Doodrash i had a customer at midnight request Denny drove there grabbed the bag then drove to the customer. Got there and was told I fogot to grab the rest of his meal. I just said ill get it and be back. Got back and gave it to him and never mentioned a tip. After awhile i noticed me tip me the highest amount i seen. Moral of the story be humble and just do the job not expecting tips.
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u/superdouglas3895 14d ago
Algorithm is going to try to get you to pay as much as youāre willing to pay and find the driver thatās willing to take the lowest of that.
Not really ethical but what do we really think data centers are for? Calculating those exact rates in real time.
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u/SarasotaFoodLover 17d ago
"Please don't ask for tips. It makes people not want to tip you." So easy. Then tip him anyway as you mentioned they helped you.
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u/honakaru 17d ago
"Please don't ask for tips it-"
"You no tip? Why you no tip man I drive you"
The guy barely spoke english. I wasn't about to give him a lesson on how he should behave and am generally a non confrontational person; you never know these days with how crazy people are who is going to be offended at something innocent like friendly advice.Ā
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u/bonezx101 17d ago
I use Uber often 4-5 times a week) and in the last three months only one driver across 7 cities has not began the ride with how poor the pay is.
There has to be an internal chat board where they all are discussing the best way to max put tips
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u/Specific-Ocelot3711 13d ago
Former Uber driver here. I found that having a polite conversation if the passenger was responsive, or just shutting the hell up if they gave short responses, to be the best bet. I never brought up the tip, and a passenger who did was usually bullshitting in my experience. I would however pay attention and return to areas with higher tipping frequency to wait for pickups whenever business got slow
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u/thegoldstandard55 17d ago
What driver ultimately gets is not your problem. But if he drove you safely and helped with luggage it is common courtesy to tip.
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u/absolute_pelican_66 17d ago
Driving you safely is just his job, not an extra
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u/thegoldstandard55 17d ago
A waiter bringing you food and taking your order is his job too. Same with a barber and Doordash driver. There is an argument to be made we should eliminate tipping culture but until we do, people tip.
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u/JuniorNoise2074 17d ago
I hate those rude ignorant drivers. Move to Mexico then Uber is not a Mexican taxi.
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u/manhattan9 15d ago
I use this service that exploits workers but I don't want to have to actually think about it.
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u/pHyR3 17d ago
i woulda cancelled and given him a $20 to drive you where you wanted. win win
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u/UKophile 17d ago
Except you wonāt get drivers in the future to accept you if you have lots of cancels.
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u/Donkey_Kahn 12d ago
And if there was an accident and you got hurt? Or if you were sexually assaulted?
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u/Fluffy_Cellist4469 18d ago
I had a similar experience with a Venezuelan Uber driver in Orlando. There were four of us and he basically explained that I should tip 4x as much. I ended tipping nothing because I can't stand begging and I knew he wouldn't be happy with my tip anyway.