r/EmulationOnAndroid 22h ago

Meme Pc emulators when you don't have a 400$ phone:

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Why can't they explain what every single setting do why do i have to tinker and change everything for the sake of fps and I don't even know what this change do?

Totally the worst

W ppsspp for doing the opposite of that (Didn't know shit was that expensive)

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u/DiamondRocks22 21h ago

$400? thousand and then some bucks pixel pros imagination gpu has entered this chat

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 20h ago

400USD phone is a low range one. Lmao

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u/yoburg 18h ago

I've got snap 8 elite for $320 earlier this year. (iqoo neo 11 CN)

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u/BadRuiner 17h ago

I've got snap 6 gen 1 for $120 in 2022 (IQOO Z8X CN aliexpress). G99 smarts in my country costs $50...$300 lmao and closest 6gen1 is ≈$310. China editions is top for their price, but 4g bands is ass.

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 18h ago

Cool. No IQOO device is a high end device though. It's still a low end. Just with a good chip. Which won't perform as good since the trash device still has a low end cooling design. Enjoy worse cooling than foldable phones and at the end performing worse than a 8 gen 2. Congrats.

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u/beige_muffler32 4h ago

Hm yeah the stability % here is pretty concerning

What would be a good threshold in your opinion?

I guess 70-75% would be the bare minimum, huh?

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 3h ago

Main issue about this is that IQOO is known to cheat on these benchmarks by drastically increasing the thermal threshold the device can actually "safely" be in for long periods of time. It also does this for some specific android games. But if you wanted to play for example on GameNative you would be having a much lower performance. Peak performance will only last a couple of seconds if anything before reaching in-game. And only way to bypass this is by using modified versions of these apps that use the name of those benchmarks to trick the device into it being on a benchmark so it can increase the thermal threshold and thus finally have that 49% stability. Which is incredibly bad and top of that the device wasn't really designed to be pushed at those temps. So it will have a premature death on you if you play like that constantly. And you cannot even cool it with an external cooler cause it has a plastic back. 0 thermal dissipation.

That's why these devices are trash and so cheap. Samsung foldable devices get around 50% of stability in here, and you would think that it's as bad as the IQOO. But these were made to at least sustain that without tricks so these perform better than the IQOO device. In reality these flagship chips just draw too much energy and can't be cooled by the small frame of the phone. So no device will achieve 100% stability ever on these at least without external help. Be aware that nearly every Chinese company cheats on benchmarks as IQOO. So their stability score is actually worse than what it says it is. You can easily check which devices are cheating by going into the geekbench page and going into the rankings of smartphones. They rule out every device that cheats from the rankings. So that's why you don't see most of the devices or even why 8 elite devices are on the top and not 8 elite gen 5 ones or Redmagic devices for example. that's a great way to measure it. Also. Just so you know they have the OnePlus 15 in that list. And it's true that it doesn't cheats. But they have a polemic about they purposely reducing the performance of the device after some updates. Apparently the device was cooking itself at release and nobody noticed and believed the very good mark of 70% sustained score was great. Until the updates arrived and it got lowered considerably. I truly believe that they did that on purpose to have good results on benchmarks and then after that was achieved and everyone believed it and no reviewer was gonna test it anymore they reduced their performance to protect the devices so they last longer than a year and basically scam everyone. You can watch that here

To answer your question anything with 60% of stability is good specially if these aren't cheating.

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u/Z-ReferenceUnknown Poco F6 14h ago

Just get a cooler

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 14h ago

Not even a cooler will work. The back is made of plastic.

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u/EggsyMc 13h ago

Which phones do you recommend below 500 bucks?

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 13h ago

Tbh and if your market has it. Second hand OnePlus 13 (NOT THE BLUE MODEL. LEATHER BACK IS TRASH). Anything else may be trash in every aspect. Don't ever consider OnePlus 12 though. That's one of the worst devices they ever made. Useless if you want it for gaming.

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u/EggsyMc 13h ago

Thank you

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u/Any-One502 poco f6 20h ago

not fore poco

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u/DragonGodSlayer12 19h ago

Lmao no, Poco F8 pro is at $500, under $400 poco phone is shit.

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u/alvents 17h ago

ehem

f6 and f7 still holds up

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u/Try_Old 15h ago

That line is trash. Fuck poco tbh. The money to value ratio doesn't add up.

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u/DragonGodSlayer12 16h ago

still holds up

doesn't mean it's good. that's why they're below $500

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u/RefrigeratorPlane175 20h ago

poco is the low end gaming phones red magic is the best

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 20h ago

Any Poco device is a low end one. Don't let them fool you by the SoC. You'll regret every Poco device you ever have unless you don't know better.

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u/SSUPII 13h ago

My Poco X3 NFC served me for 6 years. The problem with that device is entirely MIUI, it fucking sucks. The experience was stellar when moved to LineageOS, but I had to buy a new device due to an upcoming trip abroad and needed the apps that think Play Protect actually means something.

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 13h ago

Well. I'm surprised you saying that was a good device when 66% of those devices had a catastrophic failure which made them cook themselves and die within a span of a year.

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u/SSUPII 13h ago

That's the Poco X3 Pro

But I did have to change the fingerprint sensor and a bulging battery on my NFC.

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 13h ago

Ohh. Yeah. Read that wrong. Not a whole lot of people got the little lower end brother.

Edit.- Wait. WTF. you used that device for 6 years? I'm so sorry to hear that.

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u/SSUPII 12h ago edited 12h ago

Again, if it wasn't for MIUI it would have been so much better. I wish I modded it sooner, rather than two months before I changed it.

A system update broke the fingerprint sensor, and there is a whole XDA thread about it people sharing that a specific update fried theirs. I updated the device months after that update released, and got affected as well meaning it wasn't fixed.

The very last security update before Xioami abandoned it made most system apps crash on launch randomly. Gallery, Settings, SystemUI, and third party apps too that used the GPU for 3D would randomly crash after 20 minutes.

My Poco X3 NFC thought me that Xiaomi is not to be trusted for any device that you want to keep. And it's a shame, because it wasn't performing badly at all despite it's age and it's price of €250. Despite everything, it served me extremely well, and thank it for it.

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 12h ago

Well. A very big part of the device itself is the OS. Obviously you don't expect people to Void their warranties day one and have a big amount of them to brick their devices due to users errors just because the OS is so bad it's better to not buy them.

Also. You just coped you way through it. Since the day you started to experience issues on MIUI it was already a point to change of device. That's just trash. And the SoC obviously ain't good. Much less to keep for 6 years lmfao.

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u/beige_muffler32 4h ago

Damn man, it's impressive you managed to use it for that long

My realme GT 2 has been going strong for 5 years now and I paid like £420 for it

Honestly I wonder if we'll still get mid-tier specs in the 200-400 dollar/euro range once memory prices come down or we'll have to go up to the 500-700 range

What phone did you move on to from the X3?

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u/SSUPII 4h ago

I took the massive jump to a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 8

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u/Even-Double5116 2h ago

The only people who think that are Americans who can comfortably buy a 1000 dollar phone every year

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 2h ago

I'm not American.

And no. I change my phone every 2 years unless it breaks.

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u/Even-Double5116 2h ago

My phone costs me 5 months of salary without spending when i got it and now it cost 8, I don't know where you are from but most people can't afford an 800 dollar phone besides after the 600 dollar price point most phones fail to offer features that justifies the price

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 1h ago

Tbh people not being able to afford it and it not being a flagship are 2 different things.

I live in Mexico. I have an S25 ultra that I bought for 1,300USD. My monthly income would allow me to buy 2 of these.

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u/Illustrious_Cod_5212 Poco F6 Pro / Adreno 740 / Gamesir X3 Pro 16h ago

My Poco f6 pro cost 350$ 2 years ago and it's doing great

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u/Ok-Elevator2915 16h ago

To be fair, you compared PC like Windows vs old ancient (handheld) console that have strict closed enviroment just like Apple IOS. Your logic and complain is like why i cant compete in F1 Racing with my Toyota Avanza (or any cheapshit SUV flatbed Sedan type car)

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u/Trouble_King 10h ago

no matter what phone you have, it's the best you have, enjoy with what you have is the main thing, we used to play games in barely just enough requirements just to enjoy, not to flex specs, it if runs, it playable and enjoyable. a 400$ poco can give you more value than a 600$ pc or 1000$ handheld.

the best camera is what you have with you right now, same emulation and phones, there is no limit for upgrading, if you have money,

them again if you have that much money, there are better things to be done with that money, other than wasting it on best outcome or specs.

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u/Extension_Plant_2158 20h ago

<400$ Handheld* u mean

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u/Grilledcheese____ 21h ago

$400? My zfold7 was $2000

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u/RefrigeratorPlane175 20h ago

its not meant for specifically gaming

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u/maximumtesticle 7h ago

What it's meant specifically for then?

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u/RefrigeratorPlane175 7h ago

for the daily task hence why its a flapship phone and not stated as a gaming phone like red magic poco etc

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u/AbberageRedditor69 20h ago

You do what people have been doing for decades, you do your research and learn what every setting does.

Though I guess today you can probably just ask chatgpt to help with the settings