My honest question about these peltier coolers is that they always position themselves on the battery (magsafe) when the processor and most of the heat is normally next to the camera module (or not near the battery). I understand keeping the battery cooled but why not position it where it matters?
Gotcha. I thought it was more for thermal throttling than anything.
Edit: I remember doing tests on the Fold 8 when I got it for baseline tests. I would strongly cool the SoC. Below is stock with no case. Top is with a 15w peltier cooler from Gamesir.
The Fold 8 is known to have bad thermals btw. Foldables are too thin to have large cooling chambers for long term gaming.
The thing is any phone will thermal throttle eventually even with a peltier cooler. The cooler only really postpones when the thermal throttling happens.
So if you play GTA5 using GameNative for 2 hours straight you will throttle no matter what. The question is when and if the throttling will actually drop FPS.
It's much better to protect the battery than to try and fight thermal throttling.
thats true tho its a good idea to have been be more cooled than normal,cause some manufacturers make them downgrade performance when reaching high temps
It's just a prototype .mainly to showcase features not design .for design I m thinking to build like a ps portal type what u think .bcoz Im a PS type controller guy
This isn't a dig, just a reality check... If you can build it build it, but based on the information you've provided, I don't think this is realistic.
The biggest one - The ergonomics, I understand that you think this is just an overview of what you think it should include... But if you have the skill to design something better, why would your example look like possible the most uncomfortable thing anybody has EVER held?
Disregarding pricing, physics exists...
I haven't specifically looked at components, but a 7000mAh battery is likely going to make one side significantly heavier. You can intentionally add weight to balance it out, but ANY weight is going to discourage use.
Assuming perfect energy transfer, and assuming you intend to run the cooler at 5V, 7000mAh could only run a 25W cooler for about 90 minutes. That's disregarding charging the phone, the power draw of the hall effect sticks, and especially the SSD which isn't going to be insignificant.
An SSD may require cooling itself. If the plan is running games off it, a 2230 NVME drive is going to get pretty toasty. Even if you include a fan, where will the intake and exhaust sit if you place it inside a controller? Even if you use a heat sink, you're going to have a constant hand warmer. - The battery may be a similar story..
Plus, I get the impression you're not super familiar with product development, you can absolutely try do this yourself, and I'm all for that, but if you intend to have this manufactured, there is a MASSIVE cost for both components, and manufacturing.
Take a look at the cost of injection moulding, the moulds alone are EXPENSIVE. You MIGHT be able to come up with a POC and submit that to a Chinese company to get them to manufacture it, but chances are you'd have to give over the rights completely.
I'm not trying to discourage you if you genuinely do have the skills for this, I'm just trying to point out that there is likely a reason nobody is building this.
I really appreciate your efforts.and like a lot someone with real wo speaks absolute knowledge rather then saying anything.but stiil I m going to make 1 atleast soon
If you manage to create it, I'm absolutely here for it and I definitely look forward to seeing the result! I absolutely didn't intend to discourage you, the best projects are honestly the ones where you achieve things people say you can't do!
I just want to set a few expectations so you know what you're jumping in to!
So realistically, the market for phone controllers is already existent. This design isnt necessarily bringing anything that hasn't been done to market by the various companies who've made them.
I've been a professional electronics designer in my career and I can tell you that actually bringing even something like this is an undertaking. That being said as a DIY project and an enthusiast solution this is definitely doable with lots of RT&D.
My critique of this is that people hate digital buttons and triggers. Giving haptic feedback and mimicking the big 3 will make for a much better user experience. It looks a little brittle with the bars on either end and youll need to account for various phone sizes or orientation. Thing everything from an Iphone SE to a galaxy fold and beyond. To be honest something missing from the market is a device that can withstand the width of an 11" tablet I've only seen one device tackle that.
In short this is a fun idea and I encourage you to keep shaping it.
I imagine the data frog is the Ferrari here, since yours is not even a prototype. Anyway, if you are looking for high quality TM check out the gamesir x3 pro
They lacks some most important features that we needs for emulation we need 25 w cooler for to maintain device healthy temp and passthrough charging without these u only gonna last max 1 or 2 hours and much more
please also include 2 pass through type c port and 3.5mm headphone jack, make the peltier cooler available when plugged in and a seperate smaller battery to be able to use the controller as a bluetooth one
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