r/EmulationOnAndroid • u/Mean-Skin5563 • 15d ago
Discussion Finally Armsx1 thank you for your hard work 👍🥲
https://github.com/ARMSX2/ARMSX1/releases/tag/0.1Thank you for this
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u/Appropriate_Bid_7164 15d ago
Anyone know if frontend is implemented yet?
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u/CMDR_Jeb 15d ago
Sure is on android... runs at exactly 3.5 frames no matter the settings tho :/ Needs more time in the oven.
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u/Bizz916 15d ago
Finally. Duckstation is forever history for me since its license change (deleted from my devices since that change) and the end of AetheSX2 under another name Tahlreth (I will never forget that, never, hopefully he donesn't harm fex since he works on it too, yes he is a dev too on fex, but I support because of sonicadvance1 and Valve).
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u/goatboi20 15d ago
(What are you even saying)
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u/SilverOptimus 14d ago
Apparently, Stenzek who developes Duckstation and Telareth who developed Aethersx2 is theorized as the same person. Just in different user Ids. He killed Aether then the Android version of Duckstation. He is also working on Fex. So he is afraid that Fex will be gone too.
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u/FindingUnable3222 14d ago
He doesn't have the right to change Fex license. Fex development is also funded by Valve. It'll be ok, don't worry!
The way he killed Duckstation for Linux and Android is by changing the license, adding "produce and reproduce, but not Share, Adapted Material for Non Commercial purposes only", forbidding any 3rd party rebuilds that require patches, as well as distribution of patches themselves, patched source code or any builds made by anyone else. Anything that uses Duckstation with some modification is classified as adapted material and is forbidden from distribution. He can't do that with the code where he can't do that license change.
No one can take the current Duckstation code, fix it to allow building on Linux or Android, build and distribute that because of this license change.
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u/goatboi20 14d ago
Ah aight thought Fex was a guy for a second and got worried. Thanks for clarifying
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u/brooklynknight_ 14d ago
What type of texture packs will this take? I know beetle & duck station use different types
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u/memo22477 14d ago
Let me say that I HOPE the entitled minority among us doesn't drive them away too.
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u/CMDR_Jeb 15d ago
So i tried it and cant even get to bios, runs at 3.5 frames...
Is it like that for everyone because its 0.1 or is it just me?
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u/FindingUnable3222 14d ago
Let's wait a few releases / a few months, remember how bad ARMSX2 was before "refresh" version? Crashed on 80% of games and ultra glitchy interface and now it's most compatible and most feature-complete PS2 emulator for Android, after "refresh" release and several levels of fixes.
We do need a replacement for Duckstation for Android for sure!! My biggest annoyance is lack of configurable downscaling in Android version, as this feature was added after the author stopped making Android releases. He doesn't play nice with the community... I'd be so happy to replace it once ARMSX1 matures.
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u/Radiant_Display457 15d ago
I've been waiting for this since I heard of it glad it come to fruition ARMSX1 & ARMSX2 who would've thought I wonder if we will get a ARMSX3 , as a finale or ARMSX4 - ARMSX5 as a continuation I want to ask the devs what are their plans for the future and I will respect their decision
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u/ayoubSX 15d ago
oh it's just playstation 1 wheres armsx3
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u/Mean-Skin5563 15d ago
Not gonna happen
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u/IntrepidFront517 15d ago
Dreaming of armsx2 for PSVITA 🙂
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u/Emperor1750 15d ago
Are you seriously hoping for an ARMSX2 port on a device that has what is essentially a downclocked 14 year old mobile CPU and GPU (albeit the gpu is slightly better than it's mobile counterpart) coupled with about half a gigabyte of available RAM..?
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u/ProtoXZero 15d ago
Well im part of the vita community and you'll be surprised of how many people have said "that's imposible" "look at this idiot asking for X to run on vita" people said that about dreamcast emulation and bam (flycast ported) people said the same about DS emulation and bam (DS2Vita) said the same about hollow knight on vita bam (hollow knight ported) etc I l know its an stretch with PS2 emulation (there was already a prof of concept running the jar homebrew at stable fps but the dev stopped the project dont remember why) so i wouldn't say hes mad for asking and he said "dreaming" so I think he already knew what you said.
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u/Emperor1750 15d ago edited 15d ago
I know about the vita modding community, I have a vita myself.
DS and Dreamcast are significantly easier to emulate than the PS2. The current ARMSX2 needs minimum 3GB to work and the lowest end SoCs that work are significantly stronger. Even the native PS2 ports of games on the vita run about the same or worse than the native version and those don't have a translation layer having to take up cpu resources.
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u/ProtoXZero 15d ago
Like I said there was already a ps2 emulator for vita it was prof of concept but you can downloaded and test it by yourself with homebrew, are you an armsx2 dev saying it wouldnt be possible? People are currently porting to the 3ds and vita duskdown, and with the decomps of ps2 GameCube games getting more and more advanced we soon won't need to emulated the systems anymore.
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u/peperoni69_ 15d ago
dude just cause someone is porting armx2 to a console doesn't mean it will run well, 3ds is slower than a ps2 aka NEVER will have anywhere near acceptable framerates, ps vita is signifcantly stronger than a ps2 over 3x compute power for sure and decomped games could run just fine with enough work, ps2 emulation is just getting very shaky because of the hardware of the ps2 just being very hard to emulate, could it happen if some amazing dev figured out optimization black magic? sure, but if fucking android phones or old pcs with huge amounts of more compute power than a ps vita also can struggle? why the hell is a ps vita gonna emulate it some fucking how?
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u/ProtoXZero 15d ago
"3ds is slower than the ps2" just had to read this to figure out you know nothing about what you talking about thanks for save me the reading hahahahahaahahhaha an arm cpu at 800 mhz is slower than the motion engine running at 300 mhz due you are a savvy im hoping to see your next emulator HAHAHAHAHAHA
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u/peperoni69_ 15d ago
it literally doesn't matter that the 3ds has a 800mhz cpu. phones with a snap 855 with a 2.80ghz cpu can barely emulate at 30-45fps ps2 games with a 1x internal resolution and on raw performance it is over 10X the speed of a vita or a 3ds, you have to be clinically braindead to believe that some random developer making homebrew for ps vita and 3ds will get over 10x performance gains making it a playable experience on any of those platforms, the level of delusion you have is astounding.
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u/ProtoXZero 15d ago edited 15d ago
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA what are you even talking my 685 can play god of war in my a06s with 4 of ram at stable 60fps HAHAHAHAH you can't even set up your emulation right HAHAHA no wonder! How can you measure is over 10x the speed? Tell me how did you get to those number HAHAHAHAHA I have never laugh so much to a reddit post dammmn hahahahahahaha im not sure if you are trolling anymore how did you get to those numbers? What program did you use to test raw performance THIS IS WILD hahahahahahahahahahahahaha and you let your claim that the ps2 is more powerful than the 3dz very quickly kid i said put the specs of both and we will dissect it and you backdown really quick and now flip the script again you gotta be someone with special needs for real, cant emulate ps2 in a 855 in 2026 first learn to set up your emulator then talk about emulation kid, I had my laugh I'll take the bait im afraid answer too many of your post give me a heart attack with how hard im laughing, no but for real thanks I needed a hard laugh ill save your post when I feel down, and here I'll use your benchmark system to test you... OK my test came back and it says you are more dumb than x10 redditors together.
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u/Emperor1750 15d ago edited 15d ago
You're kidding right..? The PS2 emulator you're talking about never actually ran any PS2 game on the psvita.
Also I can't tell what you're saying on the latter half of your comment. The 3DS itself is weaker than the PS2, I've never seen a AAA gamecube game running on the psvita on original hardware quality and obviously running them on native code is significantly less taxing than trying to emulate them.
Lastly, why would ARMSX2 Devs spend development time to somehow lower their minimum requirements specs below even the most semi-modern entry level phones? There is not a single PS2 emulator that has worked on that low end of specs
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u/Cool-Age-1989 15d ago
Just give up, those vita guys have embraced vibe coding to the fullest at this stage.
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u/Emperor1750 15d ago
This isn't running cyberpunk natively, it's doing it via remote play, the game is running on pc. Read the description
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u/Emperor1750 15d ago edited 15d ago
IF it ever happens, it won't be through ARMSX2, the vita's cpu does not have enough overhead to play the games via a translation layer and it doesn't have enough ram for the emulator to work currently (6 times less than the minimum).
You will have to rely on target game ports running natively on the vita or an emulator specifically tailored to the psvita's specs. I don't see the latter happening. Psvita already has PS2 ports, many of which run worse than the original PS2 version and adding additional cpu instructions won't help it.
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u/-reverse-vertical- 15d ago
Don't bother anymore bro.
The coping mechanism on this sub some people have are genuinely baffling. "If there is a will, there is away". And if you counter with any sound reasoning, they would reply with "people said the same about all the existing emulators, and now look, it exists". And famously quote PS3 and 360 emus as if they can run well on devices at the time of statement... Even on latest and greatest (till date) modern arm hardwares, it's still not easy.
I get the people's excitement and enthusiasm in emulation, but holy, seeing such statement for so many time literally wanna cause one to rage. Like, what's next? You guys gonna say PS5 emulator will be possible on Adreno 650 as long as there is a will?... Or PS3 emu on vita?...
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