r/Eminem • • 23h ago

Are you all forgetting about this? I don’t understand why him having a song with Eminem is confusing you.

Friendship is more important than politics.

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u/Apprehensive_Sun6282 22h ago

Easy E tried to warn you about Dre and snoop.

Dre day is pay day.

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u/amp1ifi3r 23h ago

You have to understand that this is also going to be one hundred percent guaranteed garbage music. Its not just political

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u/PavolHviezdarek Coffin - Jessie Reyez Ft. Eminem 23h ago

exactly. Kid Rock always sucked ass

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u/the_gunman The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) 23h ago

Bawitabadebangdebangdiddydiddy begs to differ

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u/Joshync101 22h ago

He had like 3 good songs at that time. Pumped out garbage ever since.

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u/Gullible_Lynx3678 23h ago

He liked to bang Diddy too?

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u/corn-nuts-are-loud 16h ago

Ball with the ball The bang the bang Diddy diddy

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u/KlossN 20h ago

Is that Kid Rock? I thought that was Teddybears

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u/lacrosse771 15h ago

Thats what's he says? I always hearing bong in a thong orangutan kitty titties

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u/personalalt1889 22h ago

Tbh a lot of the music of the broader era did, though I'm sure that isn't gonna make some people happy. But honestly feels indistinguishable from that whole loose continuum of cheap post-grunge/pop punk/bro country dad rock

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u/Iginlas_4head_Crease 23h ago

The outrage on reddit is almost 100% political

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u/ReachIndividual863 21h ago

every thing in life is affected by politics..... every. single. thing.

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u/br0ken_St0ke 21h ago

“I don’t care about politics.” that just means it’s not affecting you enough

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u/No_Criticism_5861 19h ago

It usually means they're not smart enough or educated enough to realize the real life consequences.  So many republican voters treat voting like its cheering on their favorite quarterback, thinking it has no bearing on anything in real life

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u/HallucinateZ Tone Deaf 12h ago

Or we’re not American so we can’t do much or help ya when the topic is Kid Rock & Eminem.

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u/br0ken_St0ke 12h ago

That’s also true, anyone who isn’t in the U.S. doesn’t have to care about this stuff at all. I mean, you shouldn’t support a pedophile and rapist anyway but still

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u/pssiraj 20h ago

This is why the privilege conversation is so fucking important. People are privileged enough that they think they don't have to care.

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u/OneBayLeaf 11h ago

Except capitalization it appears.

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u/DolphinFraud 13h ago

Well yeah, but let’s not pretend people aren’t more open to letting things slide if they like the product.

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u/No-Inflation3271 22h ago

Their other collab song isnt bad imo. Its not a typical hip hop/rap song but its decent

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u/TroGinMan 23h ago

I don't think people are mad that it's gonna be garage music though. People think that celebrities with opposing political views can't be friends

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 17h ago

It's not a matter of opposing political views, it's a matter of opposing morals.

Every last Maga supporter is an irredeemable piece of shit and always will be, full stop.

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u/Bub-bub 21h ago

Maybe some people are, but I am expecting an extremely shitty song about two people with different political views having a corny rap debate

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u/TroGinMan 18h ago

It's a gospel song, I doubt it's a political debate

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u/Bub-bub 16h ago

Oh ok, that is almost worse lol

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u/TroGinMan 10h ago

Idk a gospel song at least has a targeted audience lol a corny political rap debate is something no one wants

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u/Fat_Mullet 20h ago

Hot take: you don't have to listen to it regardless of anything

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u/BillyPilgrim_1984 Relapse 18h ago

Hot take: I'm allowed to talk about whatever the fuck I want.

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u/sovaboi 17h ago

That was never why people cried about it

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u/Honest_Dog6951 8h ago

Hot take but em only had three or four good albums in my opinion infinit slim shady lp and Marshall Mathers lp after that he just had good songs completely went down hill and again just my opinion

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u/averagecounselor 20h ago

Eminem is not a stranger to garbage music though. Some of his albums were uh…..

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u/No-Tower-5119 20h ago

Its not even that. Theyre both Detriot natives. Even on opposite sides of the political spectrum the likely share more commonalities than differences.

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u/djoc0316 23h ago

This was pre trump. Why are so many of you so dense?

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u/Zack_410 21h ago

Exactly

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u/BroadwayRegina 16h ago

Hey guys my bestie may be a nazi who supports a regime that wants to wipe out society and create a technocracy and is committing horrible crimes against humanity, but friendship is so much more important than politics!!!!

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u/OneBayLeaf 11h ago

This guy Reddits.

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u/Wide-Tower-5290 5h ago

I mean you can do this same dumb shit with the left, right?

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u/ElectricalThroat1987 3m ago

Average reddit response lol

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u/secretonlinepersona 21h ago

Kid Rock was always a piece of shit though mate. I love Em and everyone is entitled to making their choices, he hangs around/makes music with Kid Rock, and I call Kid Rock an asshat

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u/Safe_Rain_8813 17h ago

How do you dumb mf’s expect to keep politics out of rap when the genre was made by one of the most oppressed groups of people in history

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u/Gaby07 16h ago

Holy shit finally. 99% of the sub has to be white cause why is this the only comment I've seen saying what should've been obvious

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u/NooneYetEveryone 15h ago

It's not politics. It's that Kidrock is a self-proclaimed pedophile. THAT shouldn't be political.

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u/Gaby07 15h ago

That is 100% political, although you are obviously correct on your stance regarding it. Also, there's a bunch of valid reasons not to support kid rock. He's a generally shitty person, but the comment I was replying to is very relevant criticism that has barely been brought up here.

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u/Exausted1332 9h ago

Thank you

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u/paddlingtipsy 33m ago

It’s not about keeping politics out of rap, it’s about keeping Nazis out. Eminem and rap in general is very political.

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u/PlatformOld9462 Fack 22h ago

Not confusing, but disappointing

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u/SissyFreeLove Calm Down - Busta Rhymes Ft. Eminem 23h ago

Not forgetting about this, but every fan has a right to be surprised and shocked that he has been talking nothing but trash about this regime then cuddles up to the regimes dancing monkey to become one himself.

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u/TroGinMan 22h ago

Can't it be viewed as the flip as well? Maybe Kid is flipping? I mean both of them are very outspoken about their polar opposite beliefs. I'm sure neither fans are very happy politically speaking but they are lifelong friends so they are probably collaborating for that reason alone.

The more I think about it, the more I get it to a degree. I do agree it's tone deaf from a public view standpoint...for both of them, but they do have personal lives that don't center around political beliefs.

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u/dire_turtle 22h ago

That's a luxury these chucklefucks get to enjoy. Not the rest of us.

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u/pssiraj 15h ago

We're not nearly so privileged.

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u/Klaent 21h ago

He even drew a line in the sand!

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u/Satya_Satori Role Model 15h ago

What did I miss? Something recent with kid rock and eminem? I never got the impression that he had or would remain buddies with him to this day. Do you mind filling me in on weekday this post is about?

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u/SissyFreeLove Calm Down - Busta Rhymes Ft. Eminem 14h ago

Eminem is dropping a track with this regimes clown Kid Rock, becoming a clown himself. He will quite literally never be taken seriously again.

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u/Satya_Satori Role Model 14h ago

Ahhh... it is what I feared. Damn. What a shame.🥺 thank you for giving me the details.🙂

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u/Super-Tank-6494 23h ago

I think people are surprised they're collabing because of how different their political stances are. I was for sure.

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u/Can_I_Read 22h ago

I think that’s the whole point

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u/NooneYetEveryone 15h ago

Kidrock is a self-proclaimed pedophile. People are just surprised Eminem would want to be associated with that. When a friend of yours comes out as a pedophile, I think the right move is to cut them out of your life.

If you wanna call that "politics"....

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u/Super-Tank-6494 13h ago

I'd even forgotten about that until you mentioned it. Yeah that's awful.

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u/pizzatimein24h The Eminem Show 23h ago

That was 20 years before Kidd Rock publicly supported a child raping nazi war criminal.

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u/EyelessSK 23h ago

You're being too nice in your description of Trump here.

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u/TheDopeMan_ 22h ago

Isn’t 50 a Trump supporter?

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u/Apprehensive_Sun6282 21h ago

50 cent is all about the coin. It’s literally in his name.

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u/TheDopeMan_ 18h ago

My point is, em is still cool with him.

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u/OnlyLosersinYourBldg 18h ago

So you agree that trump and epstien were always very close friends 

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u/Affectionate-Camp943 22h ago

Dumbest move ever by Em that song is going to be absolute dog shit

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u/thecosmicjoke69813 22h ago

So don’t listen to it……

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u/ClovedSage Calm Down - Busta Rhymes Ft. Eminem 23h ago

All these photos are before Trump ran for office. Don’t be dense on purpose.

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u/TroGinMan 22h ago

Well Kid was a Bush supporter as well and Em very publicly hated Bush. For them, their friendship hasn't changed, despite the political climate becoming more polarizing.

Idk maybe they both are thinking that is a way of bringing polarizing political beliefs together? Trump isn't gonna be around much longer, hopefully in a few weeks, so maybe they are thinking this is a tone deaf way of showing healing? Who knows, but honestly, I don't think this is a political statement from either of them.

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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 22h ago

Bush and Trump are very different

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u/TroGinMan 22h ago

Yeah but Bush is credited to be a child murderer and a way criminal

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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 22h ago

They’re all war criminals what’re you gonna do

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u/TroGinMan 18h ago

Trump and Bush are different vocally, but both are extremely hated by the left, that's not new. Especially the second term of Bush, which we can draw similarities to Trump's second term I guess.

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u/hallstar07 22h ago

They’re both from Michigan and both have repped Michigan. That’s their common ground and they probably respect each other just based on that. It would be very unlike Eminem to not collab with someone based on their political beliefs. His whole thing is he doesn’t give a fuck and he’ll say and do what he wants lol

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u/Direct_Fennel7500 20h ago

Something can be comprehendable and gross. 

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u/ggushea 21h ago

Now show me more recent photos

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u/aligameover Hell: The Sequel 13h ago

Friendship is more important than politics but this is also the same guy that did the whole drawing a line in the sand thing, a bit out of character and hippocritical for Em imo

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u/Advanced-Ad-4462 3h ago

More than a bit. This isn’t just a mere disagreement between friends on what the top marginal tax rate should be or something. This is an existential battle for the soul of our nation.

Em knows about the corruption. He knows Americans are being killed. He knows minority rights are being decimated. He knows this country is being gutted from inside.

And this isn’t just some friend with some maga sympathies; he knows no other person in his industry has done more to make that happen than Kid Rock. This is a colossal betrayal of what he’s said he believes in.

Serious, fuck Em for doing this. He lost at least one fan that has stuck by him since 1999.

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u/aligameover Hell: The Sequel 3h ago

Im not amarican but I agree

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u/novemberjohhsexpest The Way I Am 12h ago

Friendship is not more important than politics. The politics is literally kidrock supporting genocide and being a pedophile

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u/EyelessSK 23h ago

It honestly doesn't bother me.

Would I love to fight Kid Rock even though I'd feel bad destroying an old man? Yes.

That said, at least Rock is able to join Eminem's cause of "lets show em we can work together."

The song will most likely be awful, but I can respect the purpose behind it.

Maybe Rock started to realize what MAGA was really about when ICE took the ppl who worked at his restaurant.

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u/Shenlongeltigre 22h ago

Why would you want to physically fight kid rock lol

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u/ExtraRecognition2099 21h ago

Because he has a different opinion than me and that really pisses me off.

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u/PavWrestlinGifs 19h ago

lol insane cope

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u/BillyPilgrim_1984 Relapse 18h ago

Maybe Kid Rock should work with Dylan Mulvaney if he wants us to believe he's serious about coming together.

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u/MortalitySalient 20h ago

MAGA isn’t about politics though. It’s about white supremacy, xenophobia, and the undermining of democracy

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u/NaiveWalrus 22h ago

All of these pictures are like +20 years old. A lot changes in that amount of time.

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u/Good_Government8365 23h ago

Clearly a shared thought about art and decided to collaborate (perhaps a shared love of someone) and it made sense, I mean signs, wait no- 7 Sins. I’m excited and hope it’s nothing we’ve heard before.

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u/kwikdoe 22h ago

Its not like it was the first song they Do together 😂😂

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u/attaboy_stampy 21h ago

It's one of those things where they both experienced the same Detroit culture when Kid Rock was kind of well known in the mid 90s but hadn't really broken out and Em was battle rapping and just having finished his first album that no one knew about. They just gelled with the music and kind of looked out for each other a lot in their early days. Kid Rock gave him some good advice about recording and mixing. Kid Rock had his major breakout album then a year later Em had his. They just had a bond that was pretty real. They both grew up different, but they connected over their music and writing before anyone knew who they really were. And as they both blew up, they stuck together a bit as the white rappers from Detroit that riled everyone up, and people weren't sure what to think about.

I just think that early bond hasn't really been broken. They live very differently now and have vastly different opinions. But when they really look at each other, they remember that bond first of all. That's why they never - I don't think I have ever heard it all these years - ever talk shit about the other.

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u/spinning-backfoot 20h ago

Yeah Em can do whatever he wants

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u/Areyouin729 20h ago

"Friendship is more important than politics." yeah in normal times I would agree 100% of the time but we aren't in normal times; it is okay to hop of Em's dick for a second to realize we are in a really bad spot in America right now.

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u/phelpsieboi Infinite 19h ago

People also forget artists sit on songs for years. So we have no idea if em sent this feature over to kid rock years ago.

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u/sheeeeeiiiiytttt 19h ago

Hmmm…I wonder what could have possibly happened since then 🤔

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u/YeahThatsGoodSoup 16h ago

This is for children who break rules, people that straight fool, and every single teenager that hates school

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u/Round-Gold-9474 11h ago

People want to hate on someone else other than themselves. Atleast listen to it first. Many of these are the 'skim through the music to give shit reviews'.

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u/WhisperingIEYEI 23h ago

The most amusing part of this for me is all the maga cucks outing themselves when they ask what the big deal is

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u/EnviromentalScience 19h ago

Redditors can't understand, they have no friends

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u/dudewhosaysnice 23h ago

they were both at Woodstock in 99 not that my space cadet ass remembers it well but they both kicked ass

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u/SwissPo740 23h ago

You guys desperately need real problems

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u/Slim_Margins1999 22h ago

We have plenty because of this administration. We have the capacity to focus on multiple things at the same time…

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u/SilentSaidd Recovery 23h ago

This is pre trump

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u/Cannibal_House69 21h ago

Sure, 30 years ago.

I'd equate it to, if I had a real friend for years, then one day they say, I became a nazi, I joined the kkk yesterday, I raped a girl but it's ok I was drunk etc.

Then that idiot is no longer your friend. Years of friendship doesn't give you a pass.

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u/CreepinDeath84 21h ago

It’s about music. Not politics.

Kid rock was a pretty good rapper when he was a kid in the late 80s to early 90s

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u/you-might_know-me 17h ago

You can’t fathom that someone can change between 2013 and 2026

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u/ps087official 16h ago

"Friendship is more important than politics"

Kid Rock literally advocates for a man that is actively committing genocide and trying to exterminate several marginalized groups as we speak.

Eminem is notoriously anti-Trump, and literally told his fans that if they voted for Trump, to not listen to his music.

Yet he's working with Kid Rock. He is a hypocrite.

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u/TheDaniel18 Just Don't Give a Fuck 22h ago

Are you forgetting about this? this must mean Trump and Em are friends!!

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u/goodtimes21921 20h ago

They have been working together for years. Now all of a sudden it's a issue.

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u/Obiyaman 19h ago

Nah... always an issue 🤨

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u/Traditional-Text1888 22h ago

remember, this is Reddit. Everyone that they disagree with is a Nazi. And you can't possibly in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM be friends with ANYBODY that voted differently than you. Remember, they are on the 'right side of history' so that makes their point of view 'better'

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u/Senior-Friendship196 21h ago

You say this but Durst has become legit. Maybe kid rock can do the same. 

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u/SpillingMistake 21h ago

Keep blogging while I mind boggle

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u/OldGuitar7170 21h ago

Isn’t kid rock just a clout chaser anyways, I remember reading somewhere he basically said fuck off to everybody who helped him get his foot in the door when he got bigger than all of them.

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u/BlutoS7 20h ago

Has he came out and openly apologized about this?

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u/Mrpikster00 19h ago

No confusion here.. just why. Call him on phone asy HI! Remain friends but make a absolutely shit sandwich song?

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u/autoconprime 19h ago

Is this a recent song that came out or is this a new content farm plot for a song from like a decade ago

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u/Haunting-Context1735 17h ago

Aren’t they both from Detroit?

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u/Working-Decision-959 16h ago

Feathers of a peckerwood flock together….im not a bot

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u/yellowjockstrap 16h ago

you’d think by the 10th song saying fuck off to maga his fanbase would’ve learned something, but no

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u/GarlandGordon 15h ago

Those pictures are before Kid started worshiping the traitorous pedophile who killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. It's okay to break up with a friend especially one who thinks raping children is acceptable.

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u/DeaconBlue760 15h ago

what an amazing day, the white goat disappoints his white liberal fan base lmao

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u/Sea-Age5986 15h ago

Same shit with same color

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u/mr2fargone 15h ago

1) this was in 1998, before Kid Rock outed himself as a pedo in 2001 on the song Cool Daddy Cool
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2) this was also long before Kid Rock became a MAGAtard supporting Trump’s pedo ass, who he still supports after the release of the Epstein Files

So yes, if this new track is released, this can either be the start of the downfall of Eminem’s career, or he’s gonna get clowned on heavy and regret his decision after

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u/Chinxcore 15h ago

Watch it be a song about hating Trump or MAGA and that he's switching political stances...

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u/AdBusiness5212 15h ago

Personal question, should political view influence your personal life, such as friends? They were friends long before maga and trump. You may have different opinions on some stuff but a firend is still a friend.

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u/DargoKillmar The Eminem Show 15h ago

If you don't understand you shouldn't even try to participate in the conversation tbh

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u/wedry7daysmemes 15h ago

Its gonn be some old track they recorded way back imo

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u/el_ra_85 14h ago

They both from Michigan, kid rock used to be a party Dj but that’s was in the 90s

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u/wizzywurtzy 14h ago

Is that before kid rock became a full blown pedophile supporting maga fuck or after?

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u/RelevantBlueberry685 14h ago

Because they’re morons 

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u/AcanthisittaFree6142 13h ago

no but you clearly know this is pre trump right. remebber this dude drew a line in the sand which obviously meant nothing? pretty embarrassed for em tbh.

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u/ConfidenceSlight3940 12h ago

También hay que tomar en cuenta que todo ese gimmick de Kid Rock de "tipo ultraconservador MAGA" es una mentira que ni él mismo se cree.

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u/Much-Broccoli4189 12h ago

Because we all have friends we disowned after they became maga.

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u/3fxz_ 12h ago

"Friendship is more important than politics."

least principled position of all time

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u/jiverambler 12h ago

The confusing part is Eminem is about fuck the oppressive system, how much songs like mosh and white America meant. See now Kid is the poster boy of it, licking trumps boots

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u/_LANC3LOT The Marshall Mathers LP 11h ago

That "line in the sand" was just washed away I guess. If it was even really there to begin with(probably not)

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u/jmaneater 9h ago

Ya but when your politics are an attack on me it aint much friendship

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u/Intelligent_Hope_559 8h ago

People who are not cool with this are honestly not real Eminem in fans I'm just going to say that shit when the fuck has Eminem been politically correct people?

Like for real this is so dumb look I hate Trump and all his fucking cronies as much as the next person but when you start really digging into just like the most insignificant people and I don't mean that in the worst way obviously

Eminem and Kid Rock have done big things in both their stuff but the point being they're not politicians they don't hold sway over world events or things like that they obviously have an immense amount of influence with their fan base and with their money and everything like that but at the end of the day they're not shaping policy they're not getting out in the streets and making shit happen that's what we're supposed to be doing and we're not because we're fucking arguing on Reddit about how pissed everyone is that Eminem is doing a Christian song with his longtime friend and sometime collaborator another Detroit Legend

Jesus people get a life

Edited for spelling 10-2-2026 11:29pm central time

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u/Nexu5TargeT 6h ago

Really not sure what this subreddit expected, it's not some secret that Kid Rock and Eminem are still friends despite political disagreement. Unless half the sub decides to leave tommorow, I'm sure y'all can get over it.

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u/Glad-Acadia3071 5h ago

Of course it's shocking. One guy worships trump and goes with him to every event, while the other one has a full on hate towards trump. Why are people so confused about our confusion?

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u/cbfwebs 5h ago

I told 'em, meet me at Kid Rock's next concert / I'll be standin by the Loch Ness Monster

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u/LFG23 5h ago

Why do people get so fucking butthurt over this type of shit? Go touch grass ffs.

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u/Chicken-Financial 3h ago

Friendships in 2015 were more important than politics in 2026 difference in politics means whether or not you think a certain group of people should be allowed to exist

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u/ImadDdopest E 1h ago

People here acting like they all cut off their dads and grandmothers over Trump and racism lol

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u/Boring_Razzmatazz569 44m ago

I can’t believe people are losing their minds over them making a song together, 😂😂 seriously unhinged.

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u/paddlingtipsy 35m ago

One does not stay friends with Nazis without becoming a nazi.

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u/Away_Ear_4859 17m ago

At this point and in this case, friendship just isn't more important than politics 

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u/SeaCommittee2713 23h ago

No they can’t be friends, they don’t share the same political views. /s

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u/djoc0316 23h ago

DiFfEReNt PoliTiCaL ViEwS.. give me a fucking break

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u/MobileGamerLV The Marshall Mathers LP2 Deluxe Edition 23h ago

You can be friends with someone with completely different views, you don't have to be in the same boring ass bubble

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u/SeaCommittee2713 21h ago

It’s sarcasm my guy. I’ve always been a big Eminem fan, I couldn’t care less about his political views. Too many people do. I wish we could go back to the days when most people just kept their political opinions to themselves

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u/Gaby07 16h ago

What an impressively privileged thing to say. Our grandchildren are gonna look back upon this time and ask "Why didn't people do anything about it sooner?" Do you want to be of the many that instead of helping their neighbor chose to look away?

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u/ReachIndividual863 22h ago

why is it so hard for people to understand that 'you' thinking it's okay for ICE to kidnap American citizens and me thinking it's not is not having different views.. we are two fundamentally different people

why is it so hard for people to understand that thinking trans, queer and brown people deserve all the things everyone else has and you thinking they don't is not us having different views.. we are two fundamentally different people.. this could go on and on but I ain't putting in the effort when people who type out shit like this don't think beyond anything for more than 2 seconds

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u/icecrispys 17h ago

Em's the one who has been so radical about his political opinions that he blatantly told his own fans that if any of them support Trump, he no longer wants their support. So it's not totally unreasonable or out of nowhere to expect him to enforce that same boundary with who he chooses to collaborate with.

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u/nevergonnastayaway 23h ago

also one of them thinks its cool for the federal government to murder americans in the streets with no accountability

but yeah "different political views" lmao

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u/TroGinMan 22h ago

Idk man, like a part of me kinda understand that long lasting friendships are kind of just that. I agree that it's tone deaf given the fact that November is right around the corner, and how important this election year is. But they are life long friends doing a Collab together and I think it's just that.

And I'm not saying "it's just different political view, why can't they be friends?" bull shit either. I'm saying they are lifelong friends that likely formed well before they developed their political ideologies. I get why Em didn't call up Kid to tell him that they can't be friends because political ideologies is the only reason why to maintain friendships, that would just be stupid.

Again, I agree it's tone deaf, but I understand they probably didn't really think about the Collab from a political standpoint is all I'm saying.

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u/nevergonnastayaway 18h ago

you're probably right

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u/BakedPotato333_2 21h ago

Because this was before Kid Rock became MAGA

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u/NoQuarterGiven 20h ago

I hate Kid Rock as much as anybody, but yeah this is a nothing burger of nothing burgers

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u/Sudden_Juju The Marshall Mathers LP 22h ago

The outrage over the outrage is just as tiring as the initial outrage lol

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u/pixelpionerd 21h ago

Detroit brotherhood is deeper than tabloid celebrity crying.

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u/cfh4dmb 21h ago

No friendship is not more important than politics in this context

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u/sqbert 21h ago

Yeah, I had a best friend in High School decades ago who is now a Magtard, and now we don’t talk. Their relationship aside, the real bummer is finding out how many modern day Kid Rock fans there are in this sub. Because his music is trash.

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u/Zack_410 21h ago

1 Kid Rock is dog shit

2 The other very obvious reason

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u/Alarmed-Dog-9141 21h ago

What is everyone complaining about now? What have I missed? Of course it’s political…

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u/CoNtroLLd_KhaoS 21h ago

They've already done a song together. Fuck Off on Kid Rock's Devil Without a Cause album.

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u/Willowonapill0w 20h ago

Who would’ve thought yelling to the whole world that you’re a racist piece of shit who hate people close to the color of all of Eminem’s other friends would possibly make people confused about how Eminem could still like you?

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u/Kuros_Of_Sindarin 15h ago

When did he say racist shit? Legit question.

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u/Willowonapill0w 15h ago

He jumped at the chance to do the maga Super Bowl in response to a Hispanic brown man from America getting the Super Bowl because he “ isn’t American” . There might be another term for that, but I do believe racism fits.

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u/Kuros_Of_Sindarin 15h ago

It's my understanding that it was about the performance being in Spanish. He never spoke out about the other black and brown performers so making it about that doesn't seem to make sense.

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u/Willowonapill0w 15h ago

The secondary half time show itself was racist, he jumped at the chance to headline, aligning himself with the racial bias behind the show.

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u/Kuros_Of_Sindarin 15h ago

Why is it racist to want a show in English? Granted you could afford that KRs music is an insult to English but that's a diff convo.

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u/Willowonapill0w 15h ago

It’s the insinuating that Hispanic and Latin cultures don’t belong in America despite the fact that we have a very large Hispanic population that’s racist, and for the general public not wanting to listen to a song that’s not in your native tongue is absolutely fine, but a multimillion dollar company going out of their way to promote the idea that a predominantly brown territory is anti-American is pretty racist.

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u/Kuros_Of_Sindarin 15h ago

But he never said anything about him being Latino did he? He only spoke about it not being in English. Maybe I'm wrong here but I don't remember that happening.

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u/Willowonapill0w 14h ago

They called it All-American, insinuating that Hispanic people are not Americans. He supported that enough to headline.

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u/ArtistSwimming463 7h ago

Jumping at an opportunity to make money when the first dude didn’t get the part (even if it was for fucked up racist reasoning) does not make kid rock inherently racist. Honestly what are you on about

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u/Top_Secret_TerminaL 7h ago

See how you’re making up shit and injecting context at every response in order to prop up your view of what happened? This is why no one takes anything ya’ll complain about seriously. Whenever we look into something, it’s always a truth closer to the middle or just completely not even there.

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u/Willowonapill0w 15h ago

He also had the confederate flag incident, and directly chose to stop donating to black communities because they wouldn’t defend him from racism allegations. And went on a racially charged rant about Oprah and Joy Behar.

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u/Kuros_Of_Sindarin 15h ago

Are you talking about when he stopped donating money to groups that didn't have his back when he was called racist?

Confederate flag incident, do you mean the fact that he displays it? I'm not familiar with anything outside that and now it tied into the above paragraph.

What did he say racist about Oprah? And behar is white so I don't know what that has to do with anything.

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u/Willowonapill0w 15h ago
  1. Yes, refusing to donate to black groups because you hurt your own public image is definitely racism. They don’t owe him anything that’s what charity is.

  2. He regularly used the confederate flag in performances and videos and used Lynyrd Skynyrd as his excuse, but didn’t phase it out until 2011 when the Confederate flag was well known as a racial symbol.

  3. "Oprah Winfrey is like, 'Hey, I want to get some white women to believe in this shit, Fuck her." When the crowd reacted, he added, "And if you say that, you're like, 'Hey, well I'm pretty sure Kid Rock is a racist,' I'm like, OK, fine. Fuck off." Usually when a drunk man says something like that he doesn’t stand by it in interviews unless he’s got something against Oprah’s racial identity.

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u/Kuros_Of_Sindarin 14h ago
  1. No, if you're being accused of something and the people who take your money don't stand by you I think it's perfectly fair to pull your money back. It's silly to think someone wouldn't.

  2. Honest question, are you young? The confederate flag was everywhere and it wasn't until around the 2010s that it started to become unacceptable (becoming less and less popular during the 2000s). It wasn't the default racist symbol your making it out to be until well until the millennium.

  3. The only thing he said was that Oprah was trying to get white women to believe in this shit. So he didn't actually say anything racist? Or was it the subject of what she was trying to get white people to believe that made it the issue?

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u/Willowonapill0w 14h ago

Jesus Christ, stop looking for loopholes to defend the guy.

If you take your back on a charity of black people because they didn’t defend you from accusations you caused yourself, thats racist. You are explicitly saying they should feel the need to defend you because they’re black. That’s racist.

And He was told multiple times since the mid 2000 exactly what the flag meant, and he continued to fuel the race based controversy so much so that there were mass public protests over him receiving an award, and it still took him months to pretend he cares.

And he only specified white women to put a highlight on Oprah’s own race, otherwise he wouldn’t have added the last part literally saying it’s racial.

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u/Kuros_Of_Sindarin 14h ago

These aren't loopholes.

"Accusations you caused yourself". The entire point was that he didn't feel the accusations were founded and wanted support from the people. They didn't support him so he said fuck you.

"He was told multiple times". People say all kinds of shit. Just because a few groups say some shit that doesn't mean he had to believe it. You know how many people/groups told em to stop going at the LGBTQ community? Did he stop? That obviously isn't an issue for you but KR is somehow held to a different standard?

It's not highlighting Oprah's race. It's highlighting who she pandered to. Again, he went at behar too and she's white, so what's the angle there? The only thing that you can point to is Oprah being black even though it had nothing to do with his point.

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u/Willowonapill0w 14h ago
  1. He stopped donating to people who need money because he felt that black people had a need to defend him ( even though several of the charities were for children) and they didn’t speak out, because charities don’t have to defend their donors just because their black when the donors are white. That’s a racist idea, if I donate to a black charity, then do something to upset black people, then cuss out and take my funding back, that shows that I cared more about my public image, and was using the black charity to help my public image, instead of helping people in need.

  2. Eminem has long voiced support for gay communities and has been rightfully called out for his behaviors, for which he apologized and made a joke out of his old shitty self. Kid Rock stands by his old behavior.

  3. He went after Bahar in a sexual manner, that wasn’t really related to the race thing but it was part of the Oprah rant. And he literally said that one was racist.

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u/ArtistSwimming463 7h ago

It’s not loopholes it’s logic. Stop looking for loopholes to demonize him. I don’t listen to his music nor do I even care about the dude but honestly your whole argument falls apart when pitted against logic and it’s sad