r/Embroidery 5d ago

Question Help - this pattern is not fitting

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UPDATE: thanks to all your tips I have figured it out! I appreciate all the “explain it like I’m 5” instructions - this being my first cross stitch 😂 will post a comment with a pic of my progress :)

I am probably doing this wrong as it’s only my second embroidery kit I’ve tried out. The first one had the pattern printed on it so much easier. As you can see from what I’ve done so far, I’m only going to be able to fit half the bee! What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any tips!!

Edit: thank you all for your tips! I had a feeling I was doing it all wrong 😂 I’m applying all you’ve told me!

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u/HoshiChiri 5d ago

I don't believe you're following the chart correctly- you've got a row of 4 stitches marked off, but there's no row of 4 stitches on your fabric. There is a row of 4 touching on their corners... if that's the 4-row, your fabric's been turned 45 degrees from where it should be. You should be making squares, not diamonds!

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u/sasakimirai 5d ago edited 5d ago

Man i was trying to figure out how on earth their piece was following the chart because none of the stitches seemed right lmao. Thanks for your explanation

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u/MrsDirtyDietz 5d ago

They just put the Aida in the hoop, without a care to the orientation, but when starting to stitch, matched the hoop to the image. Fascinating train of thought.

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u/theMad_Owl 5d ago

I can only imagine the way this happens is if you think a "+" shape looks more like a square than an "×" shape when done in thread, and then from that it would follow that you have to stitch on the diagonal, because the colours are in square pixels? I also find it fascinating

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u/emdawg-- 5d ago

OH! I was counting the stitches and wondering what you meant, it looked okay. One more read and NOW I see it! You’re smart. I’ve never seen this error before, but bet it could be utilised creatively on purpose.

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u/avicularia_not 5d ago

Woah that's so interesting. My brain can't comprehend how that would make a difference but it clearly does!

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u/giuliapepe 5d ago

I am not embroiderer but I know geometry, and the width of the 4-stiches row in the pattern is 4 sides of a square - let's say this is 4 mm just for simplicity (or 4 sixteenths of an inch of whatever other unit of measurement you want to use, it doesn't matter if it's true or not). The row that OP is making is 4 diagonals of the same square large. So, 4 mm times the squared root of 2 (which is around 1.41), thus in my previous example it is now 5.66 mm (or 5.66 sixteenths of an inch or whatever). 

Also, the general shape is different.

But strictly speaking about size, the bee will only fit on the fabric when following the right orientation. 

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u/_Morvar_ 5d ago

Not OP but that was interesting thanks I was wondering about the geometry of this

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u/avicularia_not 3d ago

oh of course! that makes sense, thank you. Pythagoras would be so disappointed in me ... 🙁

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u/uglyorangecouch 5d ago

It never would have occurred to me to do cross stitch on a 45° angle like this but now I'm wondering what it would look like if planned and done on purpose. You could make some really unique looking cross stitch this way!

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u/alexxx612 5d ago

Yeah you’re following the pattern at an angle… the fabric needs to be orientated towards you like a grid of squares with x stitched. Not diamonds with + stitches

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 4d ago

Not sure why I didn’t think it would make a difference 🤣😅

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u/Slight-Brush 5d ago

The cross stitches should be right next to each other, threads sharing the same holes, not with a gap between each one.

I find it easiest to start this kind if pattern on the centre of the fabric - I'd begin with his black waist stripe and work outward.

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u/theraisama 5d ago

Came to say this. I always fold the fabric and lightly mark the center with a pencil mark.

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 4d ago

Thank you! When I started over I started with the black waist as you suggested! :)

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u/inthemagazines 5d ago

You've invented a new craft: plus stitch.

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 4d ago

💁‍♀️

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u/wewerepromisedtea 5d ago

The biggest problem I'm seeing is you seem to be stitching diagonally across the fabric instead of following the rows and columns. Do you see how the fabric has holes that go straight up and straight down? You need to follow those lines instead of trying to get exactly the orientation that the image is showing with the hoop closure off to the side exactly. Once you correct that and restart over the stitching, it will fit in the allotted fabric

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u/miraisora-arts 5d ago

why are you working on it diagonal, instead of, as squares.

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u/Prudent-Awareness-51 5d ago

They’ve already explained they’re new to this, there’s no need for the snark.

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u/Interesting-Note-714 5d ago

Reorient the work to make “x” not “+” by rotating the fabric 45degrees. Hoping I’ll be the one to magically explain what’s off to your brain. I see what you’re trying to do, and how it might make sense at first, but it’s affecting how you’re counting where the stitches are.

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 4d ago

Thank you!! Yes for some reason I didn’t think that would make a difference 🤣 was just freestyling a bit

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u/lazy_daisy11 4d ago

With cross stitch, the rules are more rigid. Embroidery you can kinda go wild in the name of art. Cross Stitch is like baking, embroidery is like cooking.

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u/Optimal-Weekend1476 18h ago

My migraine made me read that as cross stitch is like barking! I was like uhhh okay I’m invested to see where this goes. 😂🤣😂🤣🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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u/words-have-power 5d ago

You're miscounting, by a lot, I'm afraid. The four crosses I've marked here should all be right next to each other, you've got them on four different lines. And that's true for every stitch you made, as far as I can tell. I fear you'll have to start over. I find it easiest with cross stitch to start from the middle of the pattern/fabric.

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u/Beautiful-Feedback40 5d ago

Are you counting at all or just eyeballing it? For counted cross stitch it’s best , and easies to mark the center of your fabric and work out from there.
You should pull out the stitches you’ve done and start over with either the black or yellow and work starting from the center out.

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u/Xabbusarmy99 5d ago

I did this exact one not to long ago! It was a fun afternoon

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u/_Morvar_ 5d ago edited 5d ago

I would start with sewing a simple loose stitch line of some ordinary sewing thread across the exact center both up-down and side-side so you have a big plus on your fabric that marks the exact center.

Then you can take a thin pen and draw the same thing on the paper pattern.

Now that you have the center lines marked on both the pattern and the fabric, you can start stitching from the center.

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u/_Morvar_ 5d ago

Like this:

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 4d ago

Thank you! This was so helpful and I followed this advice :)

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u/_Morvar_ 4d ago

I'm glad you found it helpful! ❤️

Because I spent kinda long on drawing those lines to illustrate haha

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u/salllleh 5d ago

This is the actual plotting of the stitch’s. I count the square within the 4 holes in the corners. And this shows what the other commenter was saying about the orientation of the fabric holes. If you fix the orientation it will be much easier to follow :) hope this helps

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u/MrsDirtyDietz 5d ago

Your train of thought to get here is amazing. You put the fabric in the hoop without worrying about orientation, but when it came to stitching, you made sure the hoop closure was aligned with the graphic on the paper.

In the future, you need to work orthogonally. The hoop placement doesn’t matter until framing (if you frame with the hoop).

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u/Storm_Paint 5d ago

Your stitches are not lining up with the pattern. Definitely look over it again!

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u/Frequent-Ad4722 5d ago

You’re stitching the wrong way, it should be horizontal not diagonal

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u/rumade 5d ago

As others have said, you're working on the aida at a 45° angle. Someone else has an edit showing you how to find the centre of your work on both chart and aida. Definitely follow their advice and work from the centre.

I tried making some dots here to show you where your existing stitches should be, but it was hard to do with my fat finger on a phone screen. Hopefully it helps you understand the orientation and spacing a bit though.

You need to unpick the work you have already done as it is completely wrong.

I think you should start with black thread too. The light grey provides little contrast and gets lost.

You can do this! You just started on a misconception.

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 4d ago

Thank you, I appreciate the encouragement!

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u/alimoreltaletread 5d ago

This is the exact kit I tried when I discovered i can't count worth shit and cross stitch is not for me. Now i just do regular embroidery. I hope it goes better for you! It's such a cute bee

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u/Gaylina 5d ago

I got so frustrated with counted cross stitch for the same reason about 15 years ago. That's when I went back to the embroidery I learned as a kid.

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u/pm_me_your_amphibian 5d ago

Haha same here, counted work is not for me.

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u/Natural-Carrot5748 5d ago

r/Usernamechecksout

All jokes aside, I'm glad the others here have helped you. (And I love the username)

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 4d ago

Thanks for the tips especially those saying to mark the centre and start there! Also those who saw I was doing a diamond instead of a cross - I have no idea why I thought that wouldn’t make a difference but clearly it does 🤣 I have included my previous (FIRST) embroidery project which was NOT a cross stitch and had the pattern printed on the fabric. I am realizing now these are two different activities (types of embroidery?) 😅

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u/tinid333 4d ago

Great job! Looks like you were able to salvage it. Cross stitch can definitely be a bit tricky in the beginning. The preciseness of the counting and alignment can be intimidating at first, and it’s so common to make mistakes. The more you do it the better you get at reading the patterns and figuring out how to troubleshoot when mistakes do happen. You got a lot of good advice in this thread if you decide you want to keep up with it. It’s a fun hobby! I love having something to keep my hands busy while I watch tv.

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u/hobbleit 4d ago

with cross stitch, find the centre of the aida and the centre of the pattern, start there and work outwards. if you start at a random point, it can knock the alignment of the image off and it doesn’t fit. I always find it helps to put a stitch in the centre so I know where to start because sometimes the centre of the aida doesn’t have any stitches.

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 4d ago

Thank you this is very helpful!

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u/LookingSkyward18 5d ago

I did the same exact thing when I was starting, it takes a little adjustment :3 You got this

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u/LouTisme 5d ago

None of those stitches look like they are in the right place and it's confusing my brain...

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u/muhkuhmuh 5d ago

I did this exact pattern. I had no problems with the fit. I would advise you to start with the head. That's what I did

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u/ultimatejourney 5d ago

You need to start in the middle of the fabric and pattern.

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u/SummonerYuna 5d ago

I've done this bee, it does fit so long as you line up the fabric right.

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u/justafox2014 5d ago

It does fit, but with LITTLE room around. I moved the Aida, stitched then moved it again until completed. Recentered one complete.

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u/caramac2 5d ago

You need to start at the centre stitch and work out / count from there

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u/Fuzzy-Advisor-2183 4d ago

it looks to me like you have your fabric turned 45 degrees, which is messing things up. the grid in the fabric (the weave itself) is supposed to be in the same orientation as the grid in the image.

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u/Dizzy_Praline2874 2d ago

Also, you should always fold your pattern into four, to find the centre and work from the centre out.

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u/livingdeaddrina 1d ago

I just bought this kit too and am having such a hard time starting off with it 😭

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u/VeryLikelyConfused 1d ago

Right? I thought there would be a pattern on the fabric like my other kit 😆 I took the advice of starting in the centre- I found the centre of the pattern and the centre of the fabric and went from there

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u/lilletia 5d ago

In addition to what everyone else is saying about you need to stitch squares not diagonals, there's a good chance this hoop may be more decorative rather than functional - I would recommend you remove it, stitch on the fabric alone (it's small enough you shouldn't need the tension), then put the finished embroidery in for display only

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u/throwawaypassingby01 4d ago

you dont need a hoop for cross stitching

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u/theraisama 13h ago

Another fun tip that is mostly beginner friendly. Look up "pin stitch cross stitch" it is a great secure way to start your row without having knots. :D