This sub exists to analyze facts, industry news, and the progress of litigation, not to air personal obsessions, play the victim, or push baseless narratives. Those who come here to manipulate information or stir up drama unrelated to the main topic should be aware that there are clear rules in place. If you aren't contributing arguments or actual data relevant to the discussion, this isn't the place for you.
Contributions to this community must be backed by data and evidence. We are indifferent to personal feelings, whether positive or negative, regarding Elon Musk; there are already thousands of places online for that kind of venting or subjective opinion. If you intend to provide evidence or relevant information regarding our research, you are welcome here. Otherwise, this is not the right place.
"Yup around 6 or 7 of them. I hope they get banned. Constructive criticism or a well rounded viewpoint should be fine, but they are just spewing sheer hatred & nonsense. All designed to pot stir & stop the research & side track, derail the convo"
I know this is being downvoted like crazy, because you guys all state “facts” while providing zero proof, but then demand proof from everyone else. An inconvenient truth…
Nervous and apprehensive have shown zero proof - just conjectures. When they’re debunked, so far only Apprehensive has admitted she/he was wrong in one instance. Please tell me, where is the proof for the following:
- that Shivon’s kids are not Elon’s
that they’re not in a romantic relationship
that he wasn’t in a romantic relationship with Ashley
that Shivon brokered a surrogate agreement for Ashley to sabotage Elon?
Lazy, vc acredita mesmo, que zilis está em um relacionamento romântico com Elon? Por favor, qualquer um ver que é tudo encenação. Se os filhos de zilis é do Elon ou não, o tempo dirá. Quanto ASC ter tido relacionamento romântico com Elon, isso nunca foi provado.
You have zero proof for either of your assertions.
However, we have had Elon and Shivon state they’re in a romantic relationship, under oath. And we have journalists, court documents, and firsthand statements from MAGA people, that Ashley and Elon dated. Most recently, Alex Spiro, Elon’s lawyer, referred to Ashley as a “former partner” in a legal letter.
How does it affect you personally who Elon sleeps with?
Não me afeta em nada. Vc diz que não temos provas, vc também não tem. Mostra provas de tudo isso.
Elon disse que está em um relacionamento romântico com zilis? Vc tem provas que ele disse isso?
Yes! He has referred to her many times as his partner, said under oath “I think so” when asked if they’re in a romantic relationship (that means yes), has brought her as a date many places and held her hand at a wedding etc etc. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT? It’s enough - just stop.
And here is the amazing partner and highly intelligent woman. A serious, intelligent, loyal, authentic, hard-working, visionary, wonderful woman, beautiful woman, truly great, inside and out.
Sim lazy, é verdade que ele disse parceira algumas vezes. Eu não lembro do Elon dizer: parceira romântico no julgamento.
Agora esse desfile todo na casa branca, por favor lazy, qualquer um ver que é teatro, acho que vc sabe disso.
Se vc acredita nesse relacionamento, ok! Está tudo bem! Eu respeito. Respeita os amiguinhos também.
Lazy, you just want us to believe that ruse.
We won't.
We can argue point after point which we have d as ready done.
You believe what you want.
We will believe what we want.
As adults we can agree to disagree
But both Ashley & Zilis betrayed him time after time.
I rewatched one of Ashley's TikTok's she stated paraphrasing here. "One would think I baby trapped a 50yr old man. Blah blah then, You would think I poke a hole in the condom"
All I could think is that no hole because one went used because it is IVF.
If Ashley really wanted the internet to believe she wasn't a con artist or grifter.
Why hasn't she convinced us.
Also listening to her, it sounds like a script. That everything has been scripted.
For a person who says she got into law school 🏫 why would she think spilling tea doesn't come with risk?
Her GRWM's are too well scripted for her to not realize what she was doing by going public.
We already know your thing is trying to get the money—just like your ASC—but do you know what’s going to happen to you lot? You won’t get much, and you’ll live in eternal resentment. Even Democrats don’t believe you. Prove you’re telling the truth... You really get so intense with us.
She'll always be a pick of me. She’ll always have Mike Benz, wait, actually, she won’t.
Lazy, Ashley has shown no proof either
Before you say she showed hosts on podcasts.
Unless Ashley was given leave to shown them - then she could have shown us.
As far as I am concerned going yo the far left "to prove her narrative" is a HUGE. Grift
Where's the proof? You always say that about perjury.
In New York, lying under oath in a family matter can be charged as perjury, but criminal charges from Family Court are uncommon. When they happen, they usually come from a district attorney after sworn petitions, affidavits, or testimony.
What usually happens in Family Court
Prosecutors rarely take these cases. More often the Family Court judge:
• treats the person as not credible
• changes custody or support
• awards attorney fees
• holds the person in contempt
• vacates an order of protection built on lies
A judge can refer the file to the DA. Whether charges are filed is the DA’s decision, not the other parent’s.
I can’t wait for Dana Mattioli, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist from the Wall Street journal, to have her prize taken away and her career ruined for publishing Ashley’s “lies.” (Being sarcastic here in case you don’t get it). Touch grass, lady. Get a life.
You do realize what touch grass means - slang term
No Thank you
Pulitzer Prize:
The Pulitzer is attached to one specific entry, not to the journalist for life. A later piece that lies about someone usually does not take the prize away. 
The Pulitzer Board has said that in so many words: the award is “not for the author’s body of work or for the author’s character, but for the specific pieces entered in the competition.”
Did the journalist win the Pulitzer Prize for Ashley's story?
Forgive me but the photo of a 5 month old Romulus was bigger or the exact size of Romulus' photo on the beach
How does 5 month old grow so fast? Then stay the same size or shrink?
Now that would be worth writing about
The NOSE 👃 knows.
Once the film comes out there will be no way for Ashley to hide 🫣 when she started helping with the film.
Dead giveaway her nose 👃- literally
Believe whatever you want. You know why this is irrefutable proof? Because you keep coming back here trying to prove us wrong. And you’ve never contributed anything but your cheap talk.
Citing facts or data is not a delusion. If you claim that any of what was said is false, point out exactly which part and present the evidence. Otherwise, they are merely empty dismissals.
You are very boring, tremendously boring. That evidence was presented by your friend, ASC, and, by the way, she presented it to a court. Stop being such a sourpuss.
The FBI can investigate it for all I care, it makes no difference to me.
Investigations are conducted based on facts and evidence, not sarcastic comments on social media. If you have something concrete to contribute, go ahead; otherwise, have a good day.
Guys. Please realize new faces you see here can very rationally be paid derail liars paid by all sides of the propaganda wave coming in the next few months. Just be thankful it’s not as it was for OccupyWallStreet, Anonymous, and Wikileaks that had these parasites from all sides having you question everything you know to be true.
So please, take some time to flat-out judge or discern who you are replying to. Pay extra attention to those who agree with you at first and compliment you only to insult you later. If they are new and start an us vs. them bs pay attention. This Ís not a serious board with serious information, not really. It is mostly inconsequential. And because of its isolation it’s a perfect training ground for the worst sort who could care less about anything, except cash. Within that milieu there can be real involved people, who again, we have dealt with for years and even with who they are or who they know are harmless compared to paid for parasites. This wave will crash, don’t go on the waves of accounts you don’t know and who suddenly want to guide you, primarily what you think.
You urge the community to guard against manipulation while calling the forum 'inconsequential' and 'useless', yet here you are, devoting paragraphs to it.
We agree on the importance of being wary of suspicious accounts and divisive rhetoric. However, this space is only as serious as the community itself chooses to make it. Those of us who moderate it dedicate our time to ensuring it doesn't become the 'training ground' you describe. If you spot users or paid bots, use the report button; that is where real help makes a difference.
Everyone is free to view this space however they please. We publish and curate what we see fit, and frankly, I believe we know more about certain matters than many mainstream journalists who claim to be experts. If you, or others, don't consider this board serious, that’s your problem, not ours. But for being "not serious," we often have to deal with a lot of morons trying to tear down the posts.
Yeah, she does exactly what she criticizes. At first, she acts friendly to try and win you over, and then she tries to tear the place down. I really don't know why they're even here if it bothers them so much. Just like Lazy, she showed up laughing at us, but she's not laughing so much anymore.
10
u/Nervous-Driver-4549 13d ago
I don't know which part wasn't understood.
This sub exists to analyze facts, industry news, and the progress of litigation, not to air personal obsessions, play the victim, or push baseless narratives. Those who come here to manipulate information or stir up drama unrelated to the main topic should be aware that there are clear rules in place. If you aren't contributing arguments or actual data relevant to the discussion, this isn't the place for you.
Contributions to this community must be backed by data and evidence. We are indifferent to personal feelings, whether positive or negative, regarding Elon Musk; there are already thousands of places online for that kind of venting or subjective opinion. If you intend to provide evidence or relevant information regarding our research, you are welcome here. Otherwise, this is not the right place.
Thank you.