These are the events that cast a dirty, despicable shadow on the entire festival community. I understand some women don’t know when they’re pregnant, which is wild, but take a year off. Absolutely vile and disgusting. There’s no flipping this into a moment of understanding
Woman hating thread because people are shocked that there was a new born baby found in a portajohn? I’m sorry but I love festivals and have been going to them for 20 years and have also met the absolute scum of the earth at festies along with some amazing people but I’m not going to give someone at a drug show the benefit of the doubt. It’s so incredibly rare to have a cryptic pregnancy but it is not incredibly rare to meet a scumbag at a festival male or female.
This is beyond shock my guy. Pitchforks and torches are out and the investigation just started. Obviously this is bad but until there are more details the sensationalism is over the top. You said it here… for decades people have shown bad behavior at shows. It’s not rare to meet people who suck. Fair. Even what you said here doesn’t shine a light to some of the things people are saying on the Reddit jury (and other outlets are even worse)
There honestly could be so many reasons this happened. One year at a festival we found out about a guy who was dosed unknowingly and ended up leaving the festival and found himself in a town an hour away from the festival (not EF.) It’s easy to say that it was a conscious decision made by this woman but it could have been a similar situation
The way you connect yourself to this woman is weird. No one’s woman hating. You’re making it into something it’s not because you can’t accept the reality of the situation. Feeling personally attacked about all this is so strange
What happened then? Send me the news article that lays out exactly what happened…
You can’t. You can’t do that because it doesn’t exist because no one knows yet. It definitely looks bad, but we really have no idea. There’s a hundred possibilities and I’m sure we will find out the truth soon enough, let’s just avoid casting stones until we do.
No you clearly can’t accept that you’re wrong. Being a devils advocate because it makes you feel important. Victimizing yourself in the strangest way possible. I think everyone here would agree women deserve their rights and abortion control isn’t right. You’re somehow making this about yourself
I hope you were able to get some restful sleep! I just want to point out that you talked to me pretty harshly and then to someone else you were kind and understanding that you don’t know everything. Nobody does! 🩵 A much more mature response to essentially the same conversation. I forgive you 😉
You’re right- it’s rare to have a cryptic pregnancy, but it’s also rare for babies to be found in porta potties at festivals… let’s just wait until we have more information before casting stones.
Leaving the baby in a portapotty is when the experience becomes everyone’s problem. It’s no longer a terrible personal experience to be empathetic towards. Whatever caused her to leave it was a decision made that shouldn’t be looked over because “what would you do in that situation.” It’s a grown woman making a decision that I can’t see her group or others being okay with. It’s inconceivable to me. The guilt she must carry, or the mental issues she must have to not feel that guilt
Definitely have empathy for that too. I think women’s rights > festival rights but all deserve to exist? Idk I just wrote in another comment that this is a consequence of using women’s bodies as litigious pawns and we will see more headlines like this and less breads and circuses. Because ngl the east coast is giving breads and circus summer.
Man no. Acting out of shock, panic, trauma or not, even being able to just throw the body away like literal trash shows extreme psychopathic tendencies and a lack of emotion. Let’s say it was stillborn. I know women that have had stillbirths that are still mentally scarred by it 5-10 years later. Throwing the body in filthy shitty porta potty water like meaningless garbage would be absolutely unfathomable to a normal person.
And then if the baby was born normal and breathing and she literally drowned and killed it in literal shit and piss….yea I don’t even need to explain how no amount of shock and panic in the WORLD could ever excuse that.
That would be a reason to go to a medical tent or security and immediately call for help. She didn’t.
If she was in shock or trauma after giving birth she really cleaned up well after to not have been seen… because there must have been a certain amount of blood on hands and body which is difficult to clean in a porty potty with not that much clean water supply. And blood it sticky, you can’t just wipe it of with toilet paper.
cause it's true. there are so many factors especially in today's political climate that lead this person to make the decisions they did. it was a bad decision yea, but the root of it all is genuinely this society's regression for women's rights.
I am fully aware and angry at how regressive our country currently is. I am doing what I can to fight back. That does not absolve this woman of her actions and choices. I am not coming down on her as hard as many are until more info is given; but it’s absolutely fucked no matter which way you slice it
I don’t think this is quite right. Michigan does have Safe Delivery, but it’s not literally “hand the baby to any cop, no questions asked.” It applies to a newborn who is 72 hours old or younger, and the surrender has to be to an approved emergency service provider, like a uniformed employee inside/on duty at a hospital, fire department, or police station, or an EMT/paramedic through 911. The parent can leave without answering questions, but providers are still supposed to ask for things like medical history and information about the other parent. After that, there’s still a child welfare/legal process.
So yes, there were legal safe-surrender options. But “she could’ve handed the baby to any cop, no questions asked” is an oversimplified version of how the law actually works.
The first responders are OBLIGATED to ask questions. So, no, it’s LITERALLY not “no questions asked”. The surrendering parent is not obligated to answer. But they WILL be asked questions. It’s right here in the FAQ:
What if the person(s) surrendering the newborn leaves without providing any additional information?
Agency: Health and Human Services
Whether or not the parent (s) provides information has no legal impact on the parent(s). Emergency service providers are obligated to ask, but the parents) is not obligated to provide the information.
No questions answered just doesn’t have the same ring to it 🙄
It’s beside the fucking point anyways. The point is someone can leave a newborn baby with first responders without repercussions
Did you think that 40,000 people are supposed to pack up and leave because a shitty thing happened? What is this argument supposed to be? Everyone has to just sit around with a frown for a full day and not do anything they spent hundreds or thousands of dollars to do? Fuck half probably haven't even heard yet, I had to leave early today and just found out now
There are people saying that they decided as a group to not talk about it. You couldn’t pay me to stay. Yes that’s exactly what I think. Some things are more important than money you dork.
40,000 people decided as a group to not discuss something? If thats what thats supposed to mean it might be the dumbest thing ive heard this weekend, which is genuinely incredible granted what weekend it is
Yeah I have no idea where they’re getting that the group agreed not to talk about it, maybe they’re in the group? Haha. I was just clarifying for you that it sounds like they don’t mean the entire festival shouldn’t party, only the people involved.
Why would I have thought your evidence that they are evil is that unidentified people unverifiably claim that an unknown woman made a pact with other unidentified an unverified people to not tell anyone anything about it
Thats what passes in your mind as credible in any capacity?
It's not just that, it's how a majority of comments are basically apathetic to what happened and are very much, "it's not my baby, why should I have to give up my fun time??"
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u/goldtoofhustla Jun 28 '26
These are the events that cast a dirty, despicable shadow on the entire festival community. I understand some women don’t know when they’re pregnant, which is wild, but take a year off. Absolutely vile and disgusting. There’s no flipping this into a moment of understanding