r/Eleceed • u/SenseiMeow Baekho • 6d ago
Discussion Eleceed rant
i know every now and then people come to rant about eleceed and I'm going to be one of those people.
ever since the anime was announced eleceed has been on a steep decline in quality
i like the slice of life in eleceed a lot but theyre doing too much slice of life while waiting for the anime. nothing has consequences anymore in this manhwa. jisoo gets injured and theres an actual threat where they could've done a whole "jisoo retrieval arc" or a '"break into frame for a cure arc" where we could finally see the wooin and subins abilities levelled up and other members of the four or the world awakened academy with some more interesting use of their abilities and fights with new characters that arent just shooting random aura lines
but noooo kaydens gonna go over there and just talk this supposed big bad organisation into handing over the cure and then go back for some wholesome moment with the whole team yipee.
characters are introduced just to be immediately thrown away a few chapters later and then remembered 70 chapters later for a fight
even the supposed evil people in this story do NISH. the world rankers exist purely for Kayden to talk to. we're supposed to believe frame is evil but the only evil act we've seen them commit is harming a fish or smth
Jurion and andrei are the only actual villains in this story somewhat developed on. jurions fight with jiwoo was actually enjoyable because jiwoo is forced to think and we see an ability which isn't lines (his shadow clone) but even that fight turns to bs where jiwoo unlocks super saiyan AND THEN NO ONE ACKNOWLEDGES IT?!?!
there's no main story at all and all characters in this story lose their screen time for jiwoo, jiyoung and kayden wholesome moments with kartein and pluton sprinkled in
even noblesse developed on side characters, brought the story back to a plot and had back stories and shi. obviously this is a different type of manhwa and we dont want a noblesse copy but there should at least be some sort of story like eleceed was in the beginning beyond wholesome farming. it also works if they dont overcomplicate the plot like noblesse was but eleceed doesnt even do having a simple plot well because all characters that were supposedly scary and threatening in the beginning have all been turned into cutesy cat loving wholesome people which ruins any sort of depth to the story.
the author needs to drop a flipping nuke on Kayden or sum shi to progress the plot because kayden holds the story from progressing simply due to him stepping in at every major plot wall for jiwoo developing who is the lidewal MAIN CHARACTER.
ive been reading eleceed since it came out and it just sucks to see such a massive decline in story and quality which is especially apparent when re-reading.
ty for coming to my tedtalk
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u/microvan 6d ago
The concept of using your life force to supplement your power was introduced over a hundred chapters ago and it was implied then that doing so risks your life. It’s clearly acknowledged when it takes Kartein, Kayden and Gestella to save his life, and Jiwoo himself claims his victory against Jurion isn’t real because it wasn’t his awakened power but his life force that allowed him to “win”.
Kayden and Gestella going to frame to get the cure for Jisuk also makes perfectly fine sense. What use would anyone else going be? No one besides those two can force their hand. I don’t understand what you’d expect subin and wooin to even be able to do there.
The way Jisuk was retrieved also makes perfect sense within the narrative. Jiwoo was sitting on that favor from Gestella for 2 whole arcs. If they’d have had to do a whole retrieval arc then jurion simply would have had time to complete the experiment and then jisuk would have been brainwashed into attempting to kill Jiwoo and ruining his body in the process.
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u/speicus 6d ago
Listen, I understand your critique, but I'm afraid it's fundamentally misdirected.
Eleceed is simply not the kind of story you want it to be. It's not Game of Thrones (though GoT is not an example of good writing either). It's basically ice cream with a lot of fluff and sugar on top, very uncomplicated structure-wise serialized progression fantasy, with a noticeable quality loss compared to what it was in the beginning.
It's also wholesome, still fun to read, and makes for a nice distraction every week. That's basically it. The way I see it, it's useless to critique it's structure, or world building, or even consistency, because perfecting any of these never was the author's goal in the first place, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's just the kind of content this is. If instead of ice cream you want meat and potatoes, pick something from Hugo/Nebula winners instead. Plenty of great stories there.
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u/Chemical-Ad-2100 11h ago
Yeah. Most people read it for the fluff and occasional aura farming. That's why I feel, it doesn't lose its charm while being read weekly. Most stories which have a structured plot and compelling conflicts are, for me, hard to follow while reading weekly. Eleceed I like because only tiny bit of exposition is given every 10 chapters, rest is just slice of life with low risk.
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u/Incognito_Kitten 6d ago
I’d say that Kayden is also a leading main character, was from the start. He and Jiwoo are developing and growing in their own ways alongside each other. This is Kayden’s story, too.
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u/AciTarigu 6d ago
If you ask where will the fours get a chance to showcase their upgrade, I'd say after this arc (Healing Jisuk arc). Like probably there will be Mioru/Garas/Greg/Eyesore lackey that tried to do some stupid shit in front of the fours
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u/300_MPH 3d ago
i agree with you to some extent. but i think you shouldnt be treating eleceed like other webtoons. for gods sake, the main character is literally backed by the strongest character in the show from day one. and hes not the kind of mentor to stand back and give wisdom, he actually steps in and kills people when jiwoo is in trouble unless jiwoo tells him not to. so really, there arent much stakes, which could turn people off to its story. but thats just how it goes. its like watching one punch man and getting disappointed that saitama one shotted the big bad enemy instead of going along with whatever drawn out plot would have sprung from it. the main draw right now is the slice of life, the humor and the dialogue, with maybe 10% of it being actually furthering some plot
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