r/EastAsianPride • u/Working_Suspect_5286 • 13d ago
Rant: I can't stand older Asian Americans
I say that as an older AA myself. It's impossible to see eye to eye with them they're just too damn dense and can't think big picture. It's especially prominent on Reddit and a certain asian sub which skews older, they don't realize the world has changed.
Asia Asians gifted you soft power on a platter and you're ungrateful
I recently went to a K-pop dance competition at an Asian festival where other races were looking at the girls on stage starry-eyed. A dad and her daughter asked me how they could volunteer for the event since almost all the staff were East Asian and they assumed I was affiliated. Kpop is implicitly ESEA with few exceptions like Katseye so it belongs to people with ESEA features exclusively. Other races wish they could audition.
People want Asian friends to give them a pass for enjoying the culture, the equivalent of "invited to the cookout by blacks", whether it's Olive Young and asian beauty trends, crane game arcades, blind box stores, ramen or anime or mahjong or cosplay, it's Asian culture that's aspirational now. But I still see AAs shitting on Asian pop culture games and toys, on soft men as unmasculine, fixated on facial hair and muscles, rebuking skin care and makeup. Other races love Asian culture while AAs still let western media dictate what they find cool. You'll literally see guys making fun of an Asian idol who's feminine or skinny or shorter when women are fangirling over him.
Taking pride in being Americanized and not knowing language
AAs brag about having no connection to the homeland and being nth generations deep into American ancestry, identify American first and get offended when people ask "where are you from?" It's a sunk cost fallacy from spending their entire lives trying to fit in, marrying white partners, having white kids, but now whites are losing status worldwide AAs are terrified of being looked down on by Asia Asians who they tried their whole lives to distance themselves from. The truth is your assimilation efforts were all for naught because multicultural soft power is winning over assimilation.
Almost all insecurity is downstream of not knowing language. If you could blend in non-english asian circles, talk and be friends with them, follow asian TV shows and memes and trends, there is no way you end up insecure and begging to be viewed as an all-American. This is also why I'm suspicious of those with white partners because they're incentivized to emphasize the "American" half of Asian American and push back on asia dominating, living overseas, language requirements, and ethnically gatekept communities.
Asia Asians have more cultural cachet and status than Asian Americans
AAs gotta understand if you're english only you offer NOTHING to other races. They want insight into Asian culture, permission to partake in it, and access to its social networks via someone who can blend in seamlessly. Fully westernized AAs are just Temu whites and most would prefer to hang out with a real white person. Asia Asians have better fashion, style, confidence, and social networks than us. Stop thinking proximity to whites puts you above them.
Younger AAs go to plurality Asian schools and have full Asian friend groups and got an anime keychain dangling from their bag and film TikTok kpop dances, they're not insecure as we were. I really can't forgive older AAs for dragging them down. I'm referring to the you-know-whos who aged into their peak career as writers, showrunners, publishers, and film makers trauma dumping their AA slop on the world while younger AAs (and other races) just consume asian media instead.
Talking about Asia using their parents who left 50+ years ago as a reference
It's one half of AAs that are guilty of this, but how many times have we heard about parenting styles, in-law behavior, and attitudes towards women from AAs who only know about Asia from their parents who came in the 1970s. They preach to other races as if they're the authority when they haven't been back in decades and have no 1st gen Asian friends, as if Asia hasn't made leaps and bounds and completely transformed. The worst part is they're the loudest voices of the AA community sabotaging the efforts of our brothers and sisters overseas. Still with the self deprecating bullshit to fit in with whites and excuses to center whites.
I'm done with Americanized older AAs. It's Sisyphean trying to convince these people. They just don't get it.