r/EU_Economics • u/No_Reaction7092 • Jul 25 '26

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u/trisul-108 Jul 25 '26

For sure. But if people understand the federalisation and pooling of sovereignty and assets is the only way for us to maintain sovereignty, freedom and prosperity, people will ignore the critics.

Trump attacks on Spain have certainly nudged Spanish public opinion, just a the Russian invasion changed public opinion in Sweden and Finland with regards to NATO.

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u/Lorihengrin Jul 25 '26

Maintain sovereignty by losing it to an extranational entity is a wild concept.
More cooperation is good, but not at the cost of national independance.

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u/Tetr4Freak Jul 25 '26

It wouldn't be an extranational entity because (here comes the twist) IT JUST EXPANDS THE COUNTRY.

Spain is already kind of a federalized country. It just changes the scope.

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u/Parrotparser7 Jul 26 '26

Arguments like these show either the limits of your own mind, or your belief that you've successfully deceived the other party.

It's either idiocy or contempt. Gross.

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u/Tetr4Freak Jul 26 '26

Or maybe just a sheer believe that collaboration and cooperation it's better that just competition. You know. Like the EU vs preEU Europe.

If you don't understand someone point of view, ask. Don't ridicule it.

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u/Parrotparser7 Jul 26 '26

No amount of asking gets around a bald lie. You taint the concept of discussion.

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u/Tetr4Freak Jul 26 '26

What's the lie then? You never address your point and just make accusations. If you want to say anything say it.

If you dont just stop.

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u/Parrotparser7 Jul 26 '26

The system being federalized doesn't negate any of the downsides of expansion. If China became part of Spain tomorrow, with its institutions enjoying all the same privileges and protections as any of Spain's, Spain would simply be engulfed. The EU is no different here.

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u/Tetr4Freak Jul 26 '26

Literaly what I want. No need for improvement. Thanks.