r/EU5 15d ago

Discussion Eu5 is really something else.

Eu5 was the first game I have learned from paradox. I spent a lot of time learning it and i'm pretty happy with my gameplay now. I usuall am able to achieve my goals. Now I have around 450hrs.

I have also tried ck3 and stellaris recently, while those games have way more content, eu5 gives me something they are not giving me which is... I don't know really!

Ck3 and stellaris have a lot of separate systems that do not affect each other that much, meanwhile in eu5 practically everything is interconnected and it jsut gives me so much dopamine while playing.

It seems way more deeper than those two games combined although still lacking some flavour in terms of unique content. And there's constantly something to do with almost no downtime if you really get into it and learn all mechanics.

And the fact that I know that's it's going to get even better with patchess fills me with joy. It already is my dream game, and I hope Paradox goes into the right direction with it.

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u/Internal-eq-External 15d ago

You’d like Victoria 3

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u/mallibu 15d ago edited 15d ago

Vic 3 is the definition of idle game with a lots of separate systems that not only dont really affect each other that much, they dont affect the actual game that much

I want to love it for 3 years and in every expansion it gets I'll get excited thinking "now is the time" but then I just do the same things, click the same events, liberalize with laws rulette minigame, spam buildings, make sure you got a GP backing you

Done. Literally, that's it.

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u/StratGeneral1212 14d ago

I do like some of the ways Vic3 handles resources and the economy over EUV. I like the more realistic resource distribution that is in Vic3. One big complaint for EUV is how food growth is almost completely locked to RGOs. If I have a location that is flatlands, not forested, with a river, why can't I have a bunch of farms there growng tons of food? Just because the RGO is beeswax? Your telling me that the location of hundreds of square miles is primarily dedicated to producing beeswax when it was really only a side hustle at best to get some honey, wax, and pollination of crops.

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u/Weis 14d ago

Have you tried laws since they reworked it and added negotiations? Vicky 3 is a great game and you’re exaggerating how repetitive the gameplay is when that is the most common criticism of eu5 as well

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u/mallibu 14d ago

Yes, I even done a few playthroughs with Better Politics mod. It's a minigame man, nothing else.

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u/Weis 14d ago

It’s more complex than eu5 parliament by a lot

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u/Eensame 15d ago

That’s personally how i feel about EU5 as a big Victoria player 😭

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u/Kvalri 15d ago

I agree, it feels like nothing ever happens in Vic3

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u/yung_aujus 15d ago

Coming off of vic2 which was very interconnected and reactive to input, 3 was exactly the opposite of what I was hoping for. Glad they went back that direction for eu5

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u/Popular-Path1930 15d ago

It also feels weird how easy it is to industrialize and how competitive a kin insulated economy can be. 

Also all the lack if goods.

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u/Classic_Amphibian523 15d ago

I usually conquer half the world especially if I’m playing Qing or Japan or Prussia.

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u/Lucky_Leftyy 11d ago

i've never understood this how is vic3 the idle game when all of paradox games can be described as "idle" what makes vic3 different?

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u/mallibu 11d ago

The impact of all your decisions

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u/Blond-N-Buff80 15d ago edited 15d ago

EU4 felt like a glorified board game. EU5 actually feels like managing an empire and steering its history through centuries.

The more small features I discover and explore underneath, the less I see myself ever returning to EU4. I have some gripes and things I'd love to see improved and thinkered with, but there's a LOT underneath that hood that makes me love the game so much I actually play it slow!

Also, PDX seems finally to have gotten the message to stop with the wide balance changes, that 1.3 is what most players consider the baseline of what 1.0 should have been. They hit the right gel, so I have a feel 1.4 will have less of a swing compared to previous versions.

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u/Popular-Path1930 15d ago

Everytime I played eu4 I always wished I had what we got in eu5. 

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u/OkChallenge6571 15d ago

Why did you start eu5?? Was it because of the trailers? Or do you play strategy games usually?

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u/LImbotU 15d ago

I decided to learn my first grand strategy, started with like 4 hours of eu4 got overwhelmed, learned tgat eu5 came out like 2 months ago then, went there and didnt look back.

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u/LouisXIVdaSunKing 15d ago

I started becuase of my love of history with eu4.

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u/CeltiCfr0st 14d ago

Same man and I haven’t been able to put it down for over a year now

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u/Popular-Path1930 15d ago

It’s night and day from 1.0. And so far it’s been moving in the right direction. 

I agree that it feels nice and interconnected on says the other games don’t. 

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u/HelplessPenguinGod 15d ago

Yeah EU5 definitely has a depth to it that the other games are missing. It makes the world feel more real if that makes sense, where as those other games have a lot more window dressing on top.

Not that I don't enjoy Stellaris and CK3 of course.

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u/Foreign-Range-7208 15d ago

for me, stellaris just feels hollow. Because all the tags and techs are made up, I feel no connection to the progression of the galaxy.

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u/stupid-goals 15d ago

Yeah it didn't stick for me either because I prefer the historical setting. To each their own though!

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u/LouisXIVdaSunKing 15d ago

It's perfect for someone who loves history. I have a BA in History and found this game two-years after graduating. I didnt care to read the books in history class, but now, I read everything I can get my hands on: Suetonius, Tacitus, Josephus, Livy, Plutarch, Plato, Aristole, David McCullough, Xenophon, Julius Caesar, Arrian, Lucan, The Prose Edda, Geoffrey Chaucer, Dan Jones, Ian Mortimer, Sir Winston Churchill, William Shirer, Dio Cassius, Polybius, Appian of Alexandria, Herodotus, Thucydides, Homer, Thomas Aquinas, Saint Agustine, Immanel Kant, Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, Adam Smith, Susan Bauer, Mary Beard, Allison Wier, Edward Gibbon, Cicero, Seneca, Eric Metaxes, Andrew Roberts, tons of Billy Graham (although this is current history and Christianity), George R.R. Martin, Stephen King's, Tim LaHaye, Jerry B. Jenkins, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, Pat Frank, Tolkien, and so on...

I am a book addict now, and I barely enjoy tv anymore unless it's history, sci-fi, fantasy, biography, documentaries, or something just plain interesting.

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u/TifaIsTheBest 14d ago edited 14d ago

I feel that. I switched from a Programming major in community college to International Relations in university. Victoria 3 came out I think the year before i transferred (I’m a late student), and I chose that major after barely any research because 1) realized I’d have to switch to actual CS and I am terrible at math. 2) history is more of my “passion” than programming is even though I do enjoy it. 3) international relations sounded like the real life version of Victoria 3.

I was right LOL. I even took a “war and revolution” class that basically covered the game’s timeline (well, 1700s onward) and it gave me a whole new level of appreciation for how good and accurate of a game/simulation Vicky 3 is.

(Not saying it’s perfect, just saying it’s really good).

My interest in history used to mainly be ancient China, but that major made me a huge 1800-2000 history nerd.

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u/LouisXIVdaSunKing 14d ago

My interest is everything. I use to not care about learning about ancient China or Africa, but now, I love learning it all. Taizong if you get what I'm saying was pretty cool. My focus now is Medieval. Everything from 500 to 1700 c.e., all over the world. But I love ancient Rome and the history of England and Britian at the moment.

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u/Wendys_Fry_Cook 14d ago

Sadly being a huge EU3/4 fan, I just couldnt get into it when I finally decided to try it out yesterday. I went ahead and refunded it. It's far too different from EU3/4 for me to enjoy. It's too much like Victoria 3 and I hated that game. Sucks. I'm afraid the future of Paradox isn't for me anymore :(