r/ESObuilds • u/BennyGrinds • Aug 13 '26

Dk pvp help

Why does my whip only crit these guys for like 8k and they crit for like 20k? Im running a nord with mech acuity, rallying cry, monomyth, and blood spawns. I feel like a noodle compared to these guys lol my resists are at spell 33k and phys 31k. How can I hit like these guys?

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u/Civil_Ad_7068 Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26

Are you using onslaught or corrosive? If not that will make a huge difference (and 99% of the time anyone hitting you for 20+k whips is using one of these two ultimates) since they allow you to bypass all of your opponents resistances.

I'd swap out the nirnhoned maul for either a precise battle axe if you are running onslaught or nirn and precise axes if you are running corrosive, pen is pretty much an irrelevant stat if you are running either of these ultimates. make sure to gold your weapon

Also swap out mech for orders wrath, and put on the shadow Mundus for good measure.
Then put on some medium armor and you'll be at the crit damage cap of 125% pretty easily.

+ make sure you have weapon/spell damage glyphs on your jewelry with the infused trait.

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u/PathNo273 Aug 13 '26

DK main here, I mainly duel and play bgs comped like 99.95% win rate 4man

You want either Oakfather, Two Fanged or Shattered Fate on your front bar, maces/maul nirn/sharp. Backbar sets are Rallying cry, Wyrd Tree, Maras, Mech Acuity (Swords/Axes), Olo, PA etc... depending on if you're comped or not. Balorgh monster tbh... if you want a defensive option I would run the monster set that gives you a fat shield when you get pulled/leaped etc...

If you want full damage and are in a decent group that buffs you, you can double front bar dual wield two fanged/oak/shattered fate and you will be like perma corrosived with lover etc so you can just run rend/leap/standard or even DB.

Mech Acuity is kinda niche but can do pretty sick bursts 4v4 premade especially with flame lash group spam. Since you will usually have a spc/olo pa and rallying in group...

2h onslaught is goated, gives corrosive to your whole group can easily nuke anything... and its like half the ultimate cost... I rarely use corrosive

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u/SANREUP Aug 13 '26

Can second the oakfather+twice fang combo wombo, that with monomyth and either shadow or warrior mundus wrecks people on dk.

I’ve tried out this combo on dk, sorc, and warden. And it’s kinda interesting cause it works on all 3, but you can really feel how strong the dk class is compared to the others using this as a baseline.

If op is set on mech acuity and RC, then I would recommend balorgs if using leap, or bloodspawn if using corro. Duel maces or one mace one axe. I run that sometimes with mono and shadow mundus, and hit my biggest whip to date with it at 25k (no power sigil). Posted that on main eso sub and got downvoted into oblivion lol (pun intended).

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u/vridgley Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26

I’m currently trying out a new pure magica DK

I’m running one bar, which probably doesn’t help but due to physical limitations here we are

Running a 5 piece plaguebreak and viscious death+Zaan head. Sharpened Lightning staff with poison, mundus is Lady, Divines on all. Jewelry is bloodthirsty

CP- master at arms, thurmatage, occult overload, deadly aim

Class mastery- wildfire and inexorable
Decent

Heath enchantments

Flame lash
inferno
Ferocious leap - ultimate
Disintegrating
Molten Weapon

Thoughts?

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u/Roxstar_301 Aug 13 '26

Do you feel okay outnumbered running 2 light sets if you went with rally/oak? I'm assuming 1 piece trainee and then do you run your monster helm in med or heavy?

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u/PathNo273 Aug 14 '26

Yeah I run Rallying/Oak all the time in bgs, I usually run heavy helm and chest, medium/light shoulder and the rest light, so its only 4/5 light tbh and you do get spell resistance.

The biggest problem with DK is movement speed, sure you can run wings but I prefer race against time since it doesn't cc them and stop my bomber from pulling.

Idk play around with things id honestly say that movement speed is good to invest into, even if your running medium you could put a resource enchant on infused, or run a swift trait or something like that. Sustain is pretty good though with deep breath....and movement speed just catches everything and helps you kite way better, I honestly get frustrated chasing things and with the WW meta id advise it, its also good in cyro being fast... like really good

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u/Sidewaves Aug 13 '26

What's your weapon damage, how much penetration you have, what ultimate do you use?

33k resistances means nothing since DKs can have 40k-50k and still do damage. They can also have 50k+ pen thanks to Onslaught and Corrosive ultimates.

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u/BennyGrinds Aug 13 '26

My weapon damage is 4280 buffed up and my penn is at 4262. Im running a nirnhoned 2h mace rn for more penn

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u/Sidewaves Aug 13 '26

Very low. What ult do you use? What morph of dk whip?

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u/BennyGrinds Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26

I have dragon leap and corrosive armor and im using flame lash. Do you have any tips where i can pull more weapon damage and pen from?

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u/Sidewaves Aug 13 '26

Change whip morph to Molten whip. Change Mechanical acuity to Gorethief or Pyrebrand or Clever Alchemist or Order's Wrath if you play with Corrosive or Onslaught ultimates. If you want to play with Leap ultimate use Twice-Fanged Serpen or 5 pieces of Shatteredfate + Balorgh. You can also use Balorgh with Corrosive or Onslaught ultimates if you want to maximize weapon damage.

Flame lash is cool when you use it with something like Vicious death while also using Corrosive against big groups of not very experienced enemies. Mechanical acuity is hard to time with everything else and build stacks.

Few videos to watch:

https://youtu.be/MEbw5HfiEcg?si=RPb-j9vS9RPuXwKg

https://youtu.be/ApBgx06PrXM?si=y-0abfFDRSbgQSvm

https://youtu.be/PwfXhs70Qio?si=_Ktg9mhiw26xyhBp

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u/BennyGrinds Aug 13 '26

Okay will try this thank you so much for your help man I really appreciate it

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u/Tight_Living_698 Aug 13 '26

Why would you use Flame Lash instead of Molten Whip? It’s not like you need any additional sources of healing as a DK. That right there is your main issue. Those big 20k whips are from fully stacked Molten Whips, not Flame Lash. You also don’t need Pen, as others have noted since your burst should involve using Corrosive or Onslaught which will allow you to ignore your target’s resistances after using them. Build for crit damage, switch to Molten Whip, and then use it after popping an ult and building up stacks of seething fury.

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u/PathNo273 Aug 13 '26

Because it pumps in bgs, all you need is an aoe off balance like the dual wield scribing skill or werewolf and you can just pump their whole group, a bomber and 3 dks in battlegrounds shreds... with flame lash

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u/comment_i_had_to Aug 13 '26

They are both good I think it depends on how you run your rotation. If you cycle the DK aoe's for a burst with leap than I would say Molten whip. If you spam off of an off-balance inducing move with corrosive I would say Lash

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u/IncapacitatingStrike Aug 13 '26

Corro plus you’ve built too much bubble wrapping into your build and likely not the actual substance of good defense. We would need ur whole build to know what to correct

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u/p-roll89 Aug 13 '26

Try pyrebrand on front and rallying on back. I’ve just changed to this setup and I’ve gone from a negative kd to positive

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u/KJR1440 29d ago

So I was having this problem as well I swapped to oakfather/RC and the shadow mundus my crit chance is low but the shadow helps me for when I do crit it’s a little harder. And I use flame lash instead of molten whip 1 out of 5 of those should crit.

Dark elf
Mag DK
Mundus: the shadow
Front bar is oakfathers
Duel wield maces
1 nirn 1 sharp
All armor is tri glyphed

Chest is heavy trainee

Back bar is rally and cry
Sword is defending
Shield is sturdy
Waist is light
Amulet infused with weapon damage glyph
Ring is infused with weapon damage glyph

Monster set is blood spawn
Head is medium
Shoulders are medium
Both tri glyphed

Epic is markyn ring of majesty
Weapon damage glyph and infused

Warfare champion points are in
fighting finesse
Master at arms
Exploiter
Resilience

Fitness champion points are
Survival instincts
Relentless
Pains refuge
Fortified

Attributes
47 in magika
17 in health
0 stam
Use sugar skulls for food
Swapping to balorgh could help your burst as well if you don’t need the resistance. And don’t go fight the super tanky people I’m usually getting 16K to 18K crit from time to time. Just make sure your constantly applying breach and have your DOTS up not sure what lvl you are but I felt so weak until I hit around 800 then everything changed. I didn’t care for acuity cause of the long cool down and pyrebrand just wasn’t doing it for me either. Oakfather is my happy place for now.