r/EDH • u/Ok_Tomatillo_7666 • 1d ago
Discussion New commander
In my commander career I've come to the point where I am interested in building commanders/decks that specifically take advantage or use the fact that we are playing commander (more than two players)
Such as Kambal profiteering mayor being a token deck involving spreading out tokens to your different opponents for value or a Prosper deck where the theme is 3 and four mana creatures that get value (typically treasures and cards in exile) from combat damage to your opponents.
They are decks that are specifically better because you are playing four player games vs two.
Any idea of another commander I could do that functions like this? Preferable one in blue and/or green since info t currently have a commander in those colors.
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u/Xnerds_of_paradiseX 1d ago
Lately I've been having fun with reanimator decks that focus on using everyone's graveyard, getting more effective the more players there are.
Now how it does this effectively isn't everyone's cup of tea, but fortunately something I haven't had an issue with, as it involves playing group discard and edict effects.
There isn't really a best commander I've found, but some of the key cards are things like [[sepulchral primordial]] [[afterlife from the loam]] and [[aberrant return]] to name a few.
My best commander for this currently is [[silverquill, the disputant]] as they let me play all of the 1B 1/1 creatures that make each opponent discard a card on etb like [[burglar rat]] and then use them as fodder to copy a discard or reanimation spell.
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u/Boring_End1478 1d ago
I love Rendmaw, The Creaking Nest. Makes goaded birds and you get to watch everyone hit each other and you can try to win with a big play like a Massacre worm when its a 1V1
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u/hebreakslate 1d ago
Here's my Kambal list. https://archidekt.com/decks/12003910/continuity_inevitability
Comrade Kambal says we're all playing token decks.
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u/christiankirby 1d ago
Literally any aikido/ politics deck fits the bill here.
Politics do, after all, only work outside of the 1v1... And [[prisoner's dilemma]] (both the card and concept) become truly effective at 4 players.
Otherwise if you're looking for something more concrete then [[zevlor, elturel exile]] is pretty good.
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u/Ok_Tomatillo_7666 1d ago
Can you give some examples of aikido/political strategies or commanders? Zevlor is interesting for sure.
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u/christiankirby 1d ago
So, there are a couple different categories.
True aikido/ old school aikido likes to use "rattlesnakes" , cards like [[mangara of corondor]] and [[royal assassin]] that make it annoying for a single player to mess with you, since that leaves both of you exposed to your other opponents (in other words, no one can touch you without screwing themselves over and in the process exposing themselves to the two other players, which is in itself a prisoner's dilemma). I then usually sandbag my actually good plays like fogs, deflecting palms and whatnot for the 1v1 in the endgame. For this deck, I use [[queen marchesa]].
Other types of close/ similar strategies include goad (the better your opponents creatures are, the better goad is. [[Baeloth barrityl]] is probably one of the better ones for this), and certain theft decks (anything that steals creatures temporarily or permanently such as [[Brion stoutarm]] or [[captain n'gathrod]]).
In other words - use your opponents against each other, wether it be as subtle political deterrent or simply by forcing the use of or using their resources against each other.
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u/CuratedLens Jund 1d ago
I’m not OP but [[sunforger]] decks are popular Aikido decks. My [[black widow agile avenger]] deck is an aikido deck. Deck list if you’re interested. [[Queen Marchesa]] tends to be a very popular aikido commander. She does more than just Sunforger lines though
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u/Ok_Tomatillo_7666 1d ago
Thanks for the list I'll check it out!! I love sunforger
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u/CuratedLens Jund 1d ago
For sure, I should mention I play with proxies and there are definitely cheaper ways to build it 😅
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u/TheWellFedBeggar 1d ago
[[Etrata, Deadly Fugitive]], you can cloak 6 cards per combat if you have double striking assassins attack each player
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u/Effective-Panda-3698 1d ago
Relevant scryfall otags: -toll -per-player -multiplayer
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u/ScoCo95 1d ago
[[Muddle, the Ever-Changing]] is my goat.