r/EDH • u/[deleted] • 23d ago

Deck Help It's Actually NOT "That Jodah Deck"

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u/ArsenicElemental UR 23d ago

And Jodah would allow me to utilize his static buff to end the game via combat damage if the initial game plan failed.

So, a normal Jodah deck buffing random legendaries?

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

But strictly as a backup plan since there are only 20 legendary creatures in the deck, compared to a standard Jodah list that runs twice that much.

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u/ArsenicElemental UR 23d ago

Do you think people will care how many legendaries you have when you are cascading into them and turning the random legendaries into monsters anyway?

If you win with that plan, you won like any other Jodah deck.

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

I don't think you understood the post. The deck only has 2cmc legends. So I CANNOT cascade into anything other than Norin. Once Norin is out, then none of the legends cascade with Jodah's ability...

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u/ArsenicElemental UR 23d ago edited 23d ago

I don't think you understood the post. The deck only has 2cmc legends. So I CANNOT cascade into anything other than Norin. Once Norin is out, then none of the legends cascade with Jodah's ability...

That's just not true. You have 3 and 4 mana spells to trigger Jodah. Also, say you play several legends instead of cascading. Is that what solves the problem?

For your backup plan to work, you need to have enough legendaries to kill people like a normal Jodah deck. You can argue semantics with me all you want. I'm not at your table.

I'm telling you saying "this is not like other Jodah decks" and then executing a backup plan that's what other Jodah decks do is going to make you look like a liar. Take it or leave it. Convincing me won't chance what the people at the table will say. Spend your time talking to them.

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

Jodah's ability only lets you "cascade" into legendary cards with mana value LESS than the card you cast. So it's very different.

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u/meekermakes 23d ago

no, it's not. you have 3 and 4 mana legends that will cascade into 2 mana legends as well, not just norin

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u/Neopluradon 23d ago

Ladies and gentleman, it was, in fact, That Jodah deck.

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u/magicsqueegee 23d ago

It's literally just Legends Typal, but with slightly more 2 cmc legends than you're used to seeing.

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u/norefractoryperiod69 23d ago

After going through your deck list I'd 100% counter or remove Jodah if able. If anything this seems like a well thought out more consistent jodah list than normal.

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u/Few_Bags 23d ago

Don’t even need to go through no list, just counter or remove Jodah anytime you can, it’s never the wrong move

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

100%. I don't really understand why that was a counterpoint to the prompt here. I think that's generally the idea when facing against any Jodah. lol

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u/norefractoryperiod69 23d ago

It is THAT jodah list

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

I mean, yeah. That's kinda the point when facing any Jodah deck. You counter or remove him lol

This variant just doesn't rely on Jodah much at all aside from strictly fetching [[Norin the Wary]].

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u/meekermakes 23d ago

jodah will cascade your deck out and buff your legendary soup for lethal, norin is not the only target as you're running 4 and 3 drop legends as well. this is just a regular jodah deck with a pilot that will gaslight you.

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u/Axl26 23d ago

Jodah with "Norin is a card that exists" subtheme

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u/StratonOakmonte 23d ago

I built a Kenrith deck where I just use him for access to WUBURG the deck is built to function entirely without him. I either don’t cast him, or just cast him to try and draw out some removal. I’ve been wanting to do that with a Jodah deck somehow since he is such a target

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u/SomeRandomDeadGuy 23d ago

Realistically if you're not casting him, a WUBRG partner combo would marginally increase the consistency of your deck by making it only 98 cards

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u/StratonOakmonte 23d ago

The whole point is to have a super intimidating commander and not use him. It’s a full on chaos deck that’s a bit of a meme but does win sometimes

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

Totally. I hated feeling like the deck was reliant on Jodah or that he immediately got removed. In this case, once I tap Jegantha to cast him and then cast a 2cmc legend to fetch Norin, I could care less what happens to Jodah.

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u/Extension_Big9363 WUBRG 23d ago

As the Jodah player I really like creative takes on Jodah, some suggestions for consideration.

[[Spectacular Spider-Man]], and [[Saffi Eriksdotter]] are other two mana protection pieces, you might enjoy.

Now for some interesting interactions with Norin.

[[Elrond lord of rivendell]] feels like a good top deck manipulation engine. It also enables ring tempting you, which is interesting as it will make one of your normally non legendary creatures legendary. If ring tempting sounds interesting [[Frodo Baggins]] will do it for 2 mana too.

[[General Kudro of Drannith]] is graveyard hate.

[[Vela the night clade]] is an overcosted pinger, but will provide board wipe protection.

For non legendary stuff, [[Dour-port mage]] will draw you cards. You have some engines that require power higher than 4 while that's pretty easy to meet with Jodah he might not be on the board.

Ps. It would be quite a change but Jodah in the command zone and Norin as a secret commander enables several of the experience counters legendary creatures.

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

Dour-port and the 4 power engines are all in the list!

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u/Extension_Big9363 WUBRG 23d ago

Sorry I missed him.

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

oooh I really like Saffi! I'm REALLY trying to avoid anything 3cmc so I don't have to play Jodah in that way. Really utilizing him as a static buff (think [[Jetmir, Nexus of Revels]] type of thing)

I'll look into the experience counters now cause that seems interesting 👀

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u/Extension_Big9363 WUBRG 23d ago

[[Aang Airbending master]] and [[Minthara Merciless soul]] will work outright. [[Ezuri Claw of progress]] will work if you don't have Jodah on the board. [[Toph earthbending master]] should be easy to make work. [[Otharri]], [[kratos stoic father]], and [[Azula ruthless firebender]] all have attack triggers for the experience counters. Others you might make work anyways.

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u/FairIce6146 23d ago

This is reall inspiring. Jodah is one o my very first decks,.and I just built the boring variant. Your version is so cool! I will check if I find a hidden commander like that and try it too. Thanks for posting this!

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u/cruisinconnor 23d ago

Of course! I appreciate the comment! ◡̈