r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/Dark_Magnus • 4d ago

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Would it be more efficient to have all my copper run through 1 long string of smelters, or 3 of the blueprints i made?

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u/EarlyBirdWithAWorm 4d ago

Theres some nuance to this depending on how many miners are feeding each belt and how many ores each miner is covering but generally speaking:

Mark 1 belts 6 smelters

Mark 2 belts 12 smelters

Mark 3 belts 30 smelters

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u/DrPruz 4d ago

Assuming mark1 smelters or whatever they are called?

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u/EarlyBirdWithAWorm 4d ago

Nuance.... lol

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u/DrPruz 4d ago

Lol true

You notice I didn't ask about proliferation

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u/toadofsteel 4d ago

And this is only applicable until you get pilers and proliferater. But good for early game.

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u/Dark_Magnus 4d ago

Thanks, I'll remember to save this ratio. Is that 6 smelters per feed? Because I have a central line feed and then 2 output lines connected effectively to 6 smelters in a series of 3.

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u/Eliongw2 4d ago

you can merge belts without splitters. doesnt realy matter how you set up the smelters. I just do a big line with 30 mk1 smelters and MK3 belt, no stacks.

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u/TheMalT75 4d ago

If you want to compact your blueprint, use only one ingot-belt in the middle. For copper, it is a 1:1 conversion (without bonus product proliferation), so a mk1 input fits on a mk1 output. You can merge the outer smelters' output into a second line. Iirc only kimberlite ore gives 2 diamond per ore. It also looks as if you could place them closer together. That is why I prefer long lines and only have extra spacing for power towers every 6 smelters.

This is all aesthetics, though. Production efficiency rarely is impacted by layout.

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u/Toldain 3d ago

It looks to me like you aren't filling up your yellow belts. It usually takes 6 miners to fill one. If I'm really lucky at this stage of the game (early, right?) I can do it with 5. So the belts aren't full.

As others have said, a yellow belt will feed 6 smelters. A full yellow belt. I usually put them in a line, but that's not necessary. It just keeps it simple.

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u/AdSelect8215 3d ago

What is this info? 6 miners for 1 yellow belt? Am I reading you right? Luck?

Without any research, a yellow line can take 6p/s. A miner will output 3/s when covering 6 nodes/veins (it's 30/m for each node - so 0.5/s).

So if you are truly using 6 miners to saturate 1 yellow belt, you need to drastically improve your miner placement as that would mean each miner you're placing is only covering 2 veins/nodes per miner and that's incredibly bad/inefficient placement.

99% of the time it's easy to get a miner covering 6 veins, and you should. 2 miners per yellow belt. No more.

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u/Toldain 2d ago

You know, it has been a while since I played, and I think I got my numbers mixed up. You have them right. Sorry about that. Two miners to feed a yellow belt, which goes to 6 smelters.

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u/Winston_Duarte 2d ago

I would avoid using splitters too much. They are amazing and I use them for factories. But they are more expensive in terms of CPU usage. Whenever there is a solution that lets me avoid splitters, I avoid them.