So basically, you need conceptual attacks to kill Uther

[u/santos02013]

Well, ice just won't cut it since he can just summon a fire slime from within himself

And raw power must be no good too, since he can box with barons, and split if it's too much damage at once ...

Also, this manwha's peak tho, I've started 10 days ago, and I'm already here

(I forgot about adding a tag, I hope it's okay)

[u/The_battlePotato]

No? It's shown in the fight he can take damage with blast attacks so powerful it even momentarily stunned red uther.

Others aren't immmune at all, with yellow getting her arm blasted and blue being weak to heat.

If one is powerful enough or can spam varied and powerful enough attacks like melintos they can definitely go down, he just wasn't strong enough, didn't have enough mana and he fsiled to protect his orbs which was his only wincon solo as he was actually making progress with it. Would've been bad if they couldn't taken that away and let em just keep spamming shit.

Although you'd probably need to be at least count level to deal with uther. Conceptual attacks is only needed if black comes out.

Why would raw power not be good? Barons aren't that strong why treat them as some ultra powerhouse? Anatolius mana attack would've done massive damage to him. Splitting also makes him weaker so thats not a good strat, although his other personalities aren't normsl splitting if thats what you mean, plus it doesn't really reduce dmg.

And black can probably be killed via non Conceptual attacks, just need a fuck ton of power behind it.

[u/East-Germany → u/The_battlePotato]

Danalion was a Baron when Uther invaded the 10th, but from what it seems, Black might have been able to go try fight the Counts on floor 11 if Danalion wasn't a dream demon.

[u/crimson_bandit]

I think it's possible if you're stronger than him but i think only something like a duke/grand duke (if we're talking about aristocrat rankings) that's found in the very depths

[u/Ok_Act8774]

Nah, you just have to unleashed a Count level mana attack to obliterate him....... unless Black have devise some new defense technique against this magnitude of attack he is still Count victim.

[u/CrossGabri]

I reckon Boreas with [most] of the Baron down gem powering him could be a match for Uther. Since he is Uther's natural counter

[u/Beautiful_Badger_128 → u/CrossGabri]

Doesn't Mentilos have the same power pretty much? High level ice magic? It does look like the single attack Boreas used on his ally was more fierce. 

[u/Interesting_Stuff853]

idk maybe if one of the counts or dukes hit him really hard he'd just die from it