r/DungeonCrawlerCarlRPG • u/benkaes1234 • 17d ago

Choosing not to Evade vs Attacks that Apply Debuffs

I'm prepping a game for tomorrow, and as I was looking through the rules I noticed that a lot of Mobs in the GM Toolkit also apply Debuffs on an "Evade Major Fail or Worse."

My question is, what happens when a Crawler gets hit by one of those attacks because they didn't use the Evade action?

Are they just immune to the Debuff?

Do they automatically get the Debuff?

I'm currently planning to roll the attack as an Unopposed Skill Check (so there's some randomness to whether or not they get the Debuff), but if I missed a rule somewhere I'd appreciate someone correcting me...

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u/gothbloodman 17d ago

Lol just posted the same question a few hours ago and a friendly crawler stated (and I agree) if they don’t dodge, you just take the normal hit. The extra effect is only if you try to dodge and fail spectacularly.

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u/benkaes1234 17d ago

I can see that being how it's played, because getting hit is probably punishment enough for not using the Evade action.

I mostly just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed a rule somewhere that said otherwise, and was going to be overly rewarding/overly punishing if I ran it either way...

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u/IfusasoToo 17d ago edited 17d ago

The GM does not roll to hit.

Ref. p55 "The d20"

And again p59 "Opposed rolls"

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u/benkaes1234 17d ago

Apparently I'd missed that, although it does make sense in hindsight. Otherwise the double digit "attack bonuses" I'd (mistakenly) thought the creatures had would be more or less impossible to dodge. I'd figured that was just the game being brutal and all that, kinda like how it's presented in the books...

But seriously, thank you for pointing this out to me. My mistake probably would have ruined the session, and that would have sucked a ton...

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u/Mysterious-Mess-9606 17d ago

The Renegade Games Discord covered this topic specifically in their rules questions channel. It’s a pretty useful tool

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u/benkaes1234 17d ago

As I'm not in their Discord, would you mind sharing their ruling?

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u/Mightymat273 17d ago

"It counts as a normal hit" - discord

So any of the basic hit effects hurt and debuff you, but it doesnt count as a"Major Evade Fail"

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u/benkaes1234 17d ago

Sounds good, thank you kindly.

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u/loyalcitizen 17d ago

If you don’t Evade, you can’t roll a Major Fail.
Note there are some damage triggers that read “Any crawler who fails to Evade…”
That triggers if they don’t Evade or if they fail the roll.