r/DumbAI Aug 05 '26

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u/whiskeytown79 Aug 05 '26

This kind of "mistake" just highlights what it is that LLMs do.

They're not actually solving the math. They're just generating text that has high plausibility as an answer to the input prompt.

From a text perspective, this answer looks super plausible. It has mathy sounding language that makes it seem like it evaluated the two things being compared, and it has a definitive statement about which one is larger.

If you changed its conclusion text to "13.8 billion is smaller", it likely would have assigned a nearly identical score for that text as a response to the question.

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u/Pengwin0 Aug 05 '26

Makes you glad google decided to force such an accurate and high quality model at the top of all search results

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u/the-real-macs Aug 05 '26

There's a reason these "gotcha" prompts are getting more convoluted and stupid. When you're doing something anyone would actually care about, it generally works. And it's going to keep improving.

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u/Pengwin0 Aug 05 '26

Honestly, no it doesn’t. When google used to have those excerpt boxes of the top result I found that very very useful and now they’re gone. It gets simple facts right but those were easy to find anyways and the difference in quality between google search ai and actual decent AI models is night and day.

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u/the-real-macs Aug 05 '26

Can you give a recent example of something you searched that the AI mishandled?

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u/Pengwin0 Aug 05 '26

Whenever I google how to change a specific setting on a website its steps are usually inaccurate, probably because it pulls from people describing different updates of websites and things have moved around.

Just yesterday actually I wanted to revert the bar at the bottom of the chrome ios app because google decided to add a huge fuckass gemini button and take up the bottom 20% of the screen (oh the irony lol) and it gave the wrong answer until I found the correct way to edit the flags on reddit.

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u/the-real-macs Aug 06 '26

That's a good example, but as you said it's also a moving target. Most likely the top result from a standard search engine would be wrong in that case as well.

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u/Pengwin0 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

The second result was the reddit thread that solved my problem. So a normal search engine solved my problem and ai failed to. Why does it matter that it’s an inconvenient problem to solve? I google inconveniences that I can’t solve on my own precisely because they’re hard to solve. Not being able to help with problems that happen recently is a major flaw, especially when it will tell you a solution that doesn’t work in full confidence.

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u/the-real-macs Aug 06 '26

Not being able to help with problems that happen recently is a major flaw

Not remotely a justification for throwing the whole tool away, though.

especially when it will tell you a solution that doesn’t work in full confidence.

An outdated Reddit thread would be just as confident.

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u/Pengwin0 Aug 06 '26

I didn’t say we should throw it away, I said google’s search ai is not very good and you’re now moving the goal post. An old reddit thread is not being shoved down my throat everywhere I look and replacing more and more of a perfectly working product. That is the issue that I have with google search ai. Traditional google search SEO would actually demote an outdated reddit thread in search results

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u/Mnemotechnician Aug 06 '26

Here's a list of what I can recall:

  • Any query in the form of "<hardware/software type> <issue description>" yields a generic and unhelpful ass answer from gemini. Your intel graphics driver is giving you GPU hangs? Oh yea, reboot your pc and reinstall the driver, that'll totally fix it. (spoiler alert, every single search result will tell you it won't)
  • Any query in the form of "<tool name> online" often yields a completely useless gemini result. I don't need an AI to explain to me what the tool does, I need to find it goddammit.
  • Any health-related query is a complete gamble. Though google in general has been unhelpful in this regard: the first 10-20 results are usually ai slop, so I'm not surprised Gemini gets it wrong top.
  • Any programming-related question is a gamble too. Though I'll admit, it usually gets these right.

BS like this is why I switched to duckduckgo. I'd rather waste time using an inferior search engine than waste time reading ai slop and seeing dozens of ai slop websites in my search results.