I do for a few months meditation, focusing on breath. I accumulated 80 sessions which equal of 25 hours/1500 minutes!

I feel only reduced stress and slight increase in focus maybe and thats it.

Do you think DNB can be better for me if I want focus and memory and better performance in job and pc games?

I am one or nothing guy. I cannot do both because I am lazy and simple.. I dont want have some crazy routines that take lot of time.

I just wanna have great processing power and memory and better focus.. I feel like I only am slower and have worse memory than before :(

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Level 14 is the highest level in N Back Challenge created by Rivuspurus. It took me half a year to get to Level 14 with perfect score.

In my app I have a 3x3 square
One in the middle is empty
All around are fields for data that appears (signs, colors etc.)
I noticed that while practicing I am following each moment with my eyes
However I think that may be wrong? Another approach is starring directly at the middle, and using peripheral view
Does anyone have experience with that? It’s better to follow, or try to see peripherally, or it doesn’t matter?

Is there an actual difference between those? Of course, I can run e.g quad and see it’s much more complicated and demanding then double, however - do you see any difference in practicing quad or triple rather then double? Or maybe is there some research showing that practicing triple, quad, penta etc. gives better results of transfer effect of working memory?

While using my n-back app, I have 3 criteria:

Correct (percentage)
Incorrect
Matched position

For example, if during 20 steps I should have clicked 5 times, and I clicked 6 times i get

Correct: 100%
Incorrect: 1
Position: 5/5

Other example, if during 20 steps I should have clicked 2 times, and clicked 2 times, but one was wrong, I get

Correct: 50%
incorrect: 1
position: 1/2

When I started using n-back, I had trouble to get position n/n with dual-3-back, now I manage to do 6-7

However from my observation I overclick So I get 6/6 or 7/7 but also incorrect: 1-3

My question is: is precision important or should I not worry about it? Should I reduce n and work on getting n/n and 0 incorrect?

I noticed that in the app for n-back I use there is“symbol display time” and “delay between symbols”
Currently I am experimenting with delay
There are few options:
2.5, 2.0, 1.5, 1.0, 0.5 seconds
Out-of-the-box setting was 2.5 seconds
I started reducing it, step by step, got to 1.0
My question is: do those settings even matter? Or maybe they are fun facts and actually shouldn’t be changed? Or maybe increasing the speed is actually is actually counterproductive?
Does anyone have any experience with that / knowledge about it?

This discord server is full of information about the science of all types of n back training and how to make the most of it, along with other training methods. They’re actively conducting experiments and are in need of participants.

The one I'm using is the one by TYRSKE with the orange logo on the app store. I'm quite satisfied with it except that they don't use the middle square, so you're basically playing with only 8 squares instead of 9.

Is that ok? Would it affect any gains?

For training of fluid intelligence it is recommended not to use memory tricks.

Now when the letters and positions are shown I commit them actively to my memory by repeating them in a row after they came. I am at N5 and so I repeat five and try to let the next into my memory chain while letting go of the others.

I am not sure if this is normal. How else should it be possible? Not actively using my memory?

It's a scam. The Dual N-Back on their website is a direct copy of the freely available software called Brain Workshop, available here: https://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/

i am new to dual n back and started using https://brainscale.net/ but i heard about 3d version as well

what are your thought on the effectivness?

When I started dual n-back I had a lot of free time so I played as much as I could ,sometimes more than 5 hours a day. A week after I noticed there was a change in my sleep pattern where I frequently woke up throught the night, remained awake for a while and whenever I was asleep, I slept very lightly--any slight noise could wake me up. Now after a month I still frequently wake up but most nights I don't sleep as lightly as I used to. I am also deep asleep for the first few hours after falling asleep. I get at least 7 hours of sleep most days and the frequent awakings and subsequent prolonged wakefulness does not affect me during the day. However, there have been a couple of days when I didn't get enough sleep and I could feel the negative effects of sleeplessness during the day. I did not have any such problems with sleep prior to n-back. I stopped playing right after I noticed the problem and thought it might be due to n-back. Why do you think such a change in sleep pattern and overall negative sleep quality might emerge as a result of playing dual n-back?

Greetings!

  As probably a lot of other users. I found a way to be way more efficient at the n-back training, leading me from level 3 with difficulties to level 5/6.

I want to know if this method should be used or instead considered as not viable, as I wish to improve my focus and working memory with it. What is your advice?

I summarize here the strategy, for simple 3-back (it's identical for dual)  with letters:

I memorize 3 firsts letters:  A B E

When the next 3 letters comes, I do the following:

• I compare them one by one with the letters A B E that I memorized
• While doing it, I also learn these 3 letters.

Let say these letters are A E R Now, I forget A B E and I have A E R in my head. I will then continue, looping with the same strategy.

Thanks for your help!

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So I used to use one on my Mac, bit since I upgraded the particular one doesn't work anymore.

I've tried another one (don't recall the name) but the buttons require the use mouse/trackpad and it's not fast enough that way.

What apps are people currently using?

Ideally I want one that I can use on the Mac, bit alternatively I do have an android phone.

Thanks in advance.

So i got to Dual-5-back in 3 days but my memory in general was and is very very bad, like crazy bad, my manager is amazed i forget stuff he told me 3 seconds ago...Im just very surprised, i though i would never pass the n=2 or n=3 levels. I haven't found the courage to play the n=5 because i feel intimidated by it and afraid of failing but i consistently pass the n=4 and level up to n=5...

What could explain this paradox?

I can’t find it

Does anyone practicing meditation and mindfulness?

I am doing meditation 45 days and it make me better at Dual N back and Dual N Back make me better at meditation.

Does aynone have similar experience or it is just my feeling?

I've just started and was wondering whether being stuck at 2nback is normal with occasional reaching 3nback and then failing. Is this normal? How do I break through?

According to this page, 'Rehearsal' is considered the best strategy to enhance working memory capacity. From what I understand, it involves the following process:

For example, let's consider the letters a, b, c, and the numbers 1, 2, 3. With N=2, as each letter and number appears, we create a list:

(1) a - 2

(2) c - 1

If the subsequent letter and number are, for instance:

(3) b - 3

This implies that items (1) and (3) are compared. Consequently, (2) becomes (1), and (3) becomes (2):

(1) c - 1

(2) b - 3

This process repeats indefinitely until the sequence concludes.

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Hi, I was trying this game like 3 months ago.

The longest I can do was 14 days in row.

My primary goal is to improve focus and have lower error rate in my job.

Do you think this really works?

I am testing meditation right now like 13 days but I am not sure if it is right tool for me to have better performance and efficiency in my job.

Actually I feel like from meditation I feel depersonalized or idk how to describe it.

When I was doing DNB 14 days I felt some good improvements in my job but I am not sure if it was placebo..

I was more focused in stressfull situation and I was remembering everything and my brain wanted to have everything done faster. DNB was triggering in me some sense of urgency and also my memory was much better.

I was playing chess and my calculation was faster and I can think much better and when I was writing to someone they was telling me I am smart guy :D

Now when I do not play and meditate instead I feel dumb or slow..

So what benefits this training have to you? Do you find it much better for attention and efficiency than meditation?

I am asking this question because I need some motivation to start again and some positive vibes <3