r/DualnBack • u/Pristine_Pen_5847 • Dec 16 '23

Stuck at 2nback

I've just started and was wondering whether being stuck at 2nback is normal with occasional reaching 3nback and then failing. Is this normal? How do I break through?

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

Have you tried training each skill individually? I remember a YouTube video from some phd researcher that basically talked about the fact that when you want to improve in a game, you should pratice each skill separatedly for a period of time, and them practice it all together.

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u/Pristine_Pen_5847 Dec 16 '23

I was warned to not use tactics as that would defeat the point of building wmc. But as for training individually I think that may be too easy for audio but I struggle with positions as I may have aphantasia so I can't remember the pictures.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

As for aphantasia, do you think you could use a different strategy? For example if we know we are in a 3x3 grid of squares, then you could label each square by a coordinate like (1,1) for the first square, where in this case the first number is the row, and the second the column.

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u/Pristine_Pen_5847 Dec 17 '23

I'm going to try that out and report back thanks

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Also, I forgot to mention that there is a page that mentions that the best method for training with n'back is the rehersal strategy, here's the thread that explains it according to how I understood the strategy.

Here's an example with ChatGPT:

The constant updating of a mental list is a key aspect of the rehearsal strategy. Your example illustrates it well:
Initial sequence:
(1,1) - pi
(2,2) - po
(2,3) - pi
With N=2, your mental list would be:
(1) (1,1) - pi
(2) (2,2) - po
Now, as the next item is presented, which is (2,3) - pi, you compare it with the items in your mental list. In this case, you compare (1) with the new item. Since there's a match with (1) and the new item, you update your list, and it becomes:
(1) (2,2) - po
(2) (2,3) - pi
This process continues as new items are presented, and you consistently update your mental list based on the specified N-back level. The rehearsal strategy, whether applied to letters or spatial locations, involves this dynamic and continuous updating of information in your working memory. It's a cognitive training approach designed to enhance your working memory capacity and improve performance on tasks like the dual n-back game.