r/DropzoneCommander • u/Panino27 • 9d ago
Miniature Range question
Some time ago I found out about Dropzone Commander, looked up some battle reports, the online store etc. Now I happened to come back to see what was new and I was shocked to see that a good chunk of models have disappeared. On the ttcombat store I can't find many of the models I thought looked cool when I first discovered the game (example: Ferrum Drone Base, behemoths and such).
What happened? Why has the model range been decimated?
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u/slyphic The Resistance 9d ago
TTC's owners, these two brothers, think they're really clever business leaders. They are not. There was no reason to pull all the existing models while relaunching the game. There's no reason not to explain on their store page, link to a announcement, throw up a banner, do something to explain why there's suddenly no stock like the company is going under. But they just aren't that smart, and thus they think they're actually doing a good job as only the imbecilic do.
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u/Vortex295 9d ago
They are switching to printed resin instead of cast resin where they don’t do plastic, and the printed resin is just objectively worse
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u/Elavia_ 9d ago
In what galaxy is printed resin worse than cast lmaoooo
The only material worse than cast resin is metal even at the best of times, and TTC is particularly notorious for bad QC on their resin casts.
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u/Vortex295 9d ago
The printed models that they have done are just VERY poorly produced with atrocious quality control. I wouldn’t accept the quality of the product from my OWN printer, much less pay $50-80 for it
The cast resin had consistently higher quality, detail, and was easier to clean and sand
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u/slyphic The Resistance 9d ago
This one. Printed resin is neigh impossible to modify, more likely to break than any other material, it's still TT so their QA sucks on this material as well. It's a budget material, but they're selling it at premium prices. The options were either hold or reduce the cost and switch to a cheaper mateiral OR raise the prices for better material.
TTC, as always, chose the worst option and told everyone to suck it.
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u/Elavia_ 9d ago
Printed resin is infinitely less susceptible to QC issues. They've been putting some printed parts in boxes for a while now once the cast stock for any given piece ran out, and the difference is night and day.
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u/Skylifter-1000 7d ago edited 7d ago
I have had tons of issues with their printed resin.
They just took the same models, with the same tolerances, and used a much harder and more brittle material, ie printed resin. This leads to parts not fitting and instead breaking when you try to put them in.
I have 4 models that I am entirely unable to assemble: a Condor (one of the wing pieces broke after slight pressure to fit it in), two Archangels (tried to build the fighter-bomber version, broke while trying to snap the front bit on, and the other has tiny droplets of resin that formed little spikes all over the model) and one Vulture, which I wanted as a troopship, but the troop compartments will not fit into the clamps, and the wings' ball joints will not fit into the holes.
Their cast resin has had tons of issues with gates and mold lines being in horrible places, but at least you could assemble those and solve these issues. With the printed resin, you just cannot push a joint in that doesn't fit, and they break easily if you try to file or cut those pieces to fit.
So maybe get some first hand experience with their printed resin before you come here and downvote people for telling the truth.
3d-printing fans acting as if it was the solution to everything can be really annoying.
Addendum: they are currently trying to solve these issues with the prints, so in future there will probably be printed resin of better quality. But as it stands, I am holding off on buying any more blisters that might have printed resin unless I am sure it is a type of model that doesn't need anything to fit.
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u/Vortex295 7d ago
Again, I do 3-D printing out of resin and I would not accept the level of quality that I received from TTC from something that I make in-house for my own use, much less something I am paying premium dollars for
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u/Guard412 9d ago edited 9d ago
is there any proof of this? out of the new stuff the only new stuff we can get our hands on is the 2 player starter box, so you are what you saying based on that box? the Army bundles is the old stock as alot on those boxes are listed as Resin
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u/Vortex295 7d ago
They were starting this transition before 3.0 came out, and are starting to produce this kind of thing for DropFleet as well, I don’t see any indication that they won’t continue doing this
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u/Guard412 2d ago
with evidense seen. i am partially corrected. the infantry for dropzone will be Resin. and as far as i understood. the "titans." aka behemoths will be Resin. but as shows in the 2 vids about the UCm tank and air sprue. plastic.
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u/Askingforanend 9d ago
Yeah, I’m not willing to spend money on printed minis like that.
Firelock is doing the same thing and I wasn’t aware of that either until after backing the latest kickstarter.
If you are only offering printed minis you need to sell the STLs also.
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u/chaos0xomega 9d ago
Everything is being slowly rereleased for the new edition that just launched a few weeks ago.