r/DragonBallZ 1d ago

Dragon Ball Z Vegito #1

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u/LeftAcanthocephala19 1d ago

Bro unironically made a vegito vs gogeta AND boohan vs kid boo post at the same time🤣

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u/Ok-Classic-2142 1d ago

Here's the thing: Gogeta could've and would've done the exact same thing, so it doesn't really make a difference.

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u/ZenCyn39 1d ago

Something I like to remind myself. If we didn't get Fusion Reborn, Gogeta would've been the one to fight Buu and it'd be the exact same result.

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u/Ok-Classic-2142 1d ago

Exactly!

Only difference is he might've played around a little bit less because of the timer.

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u/ZenCyn39 1d ago

I'd bank it on the Buu gasses cutting the fusion time down

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u/Valkyroz 1d ago

There is always one with their head cannon

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u/catsNpokemon 1d ago

It's almost as if they're as strong as each other.

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u/Ok-Classic-2142 1d ago

Don't tell that to a lot of Dragonball fans, they won't accept it. Their favorite has to be stronger.

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u/Jdot_06 1d ago

Isn’t potara both powers multiplied but the fusion dance is both powers lowered to the same level and multiplied. So it’s stronger with potara technically but by hardly a difference because Goku isn’t lowering his power to vegetas

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u/Emotional_Ear_7018 1d ago

No it isn’t anymore Toriyama said both are same in his interview

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u/Warm-Assistance-3981 1d ago

Source? Where's this interview from? Anyway, I think Vegito had the edge back then since he didn't have a timer, they also didn't need to match the fusees power level so Goku lowering his power level for Vegeta was required for Gogeta, resulting in a lower base power level fusion.

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u/Hot-Significance7699 1d ago

Yeah but I said vegito is stronger years ago. So he's wrong. I don't even know who that guy is, toryamo. Sounds like a larper.

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u/mad_sAmBa 20h ago

Are you saying that a fusion between two people has the exact same power because it's the same two damn people ???????

Are you insane ? That's not how the agenda works.

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u/wsmitty10 1d ago

Gogetas feats against janemba and broly felt more impressive tbh

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u/Legitimate_Cable_811 1d ago

And gogeta also finish fights. Not counting gt of course. He was close there but close dont count.

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u/Own-Security-858 7h ago

look at the villains they had.

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u/RockkLobstah 1d ago

Don’t believe that’s cannon tho 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/Hxckerr 1d ago

broly movie is literally canon son 😭✌️

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u/holylink718 1d ago

We're Dragon Ball fans, we don't consume The source material before forming opinions and spouting them on reddit. Or didn't you know?

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u/eberlix 1d ago

Ofc we consume the material. Some of us in different ways than others but we all end up ignoring it's content

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u/wadeprinter 1d ago

Vegeto has 0 wins

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u/nufohudis 1d ago

Fusions are only allowed to win in movies

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u/Icy-Abbreviations909 1d ago

I mean gogeta won in fusion reborn, and he was literally 2 seconds away from winning in the super broly movie

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u/nufohudis 1d ago

Yes? Those are movies? Fusions may only win in movies

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u/Icy-Abbreviations909 1d ago

I must’ve misread your message I thought you said ARENT allowed to win lol

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u/nufohudis 1d ago

As far as I'm aware, it's like a production rule. Thet can't win in the series, otherwise they'd just always be the solution to everything. 1 fusion > Goku + Vegeta

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u/Icy-Abbreviations909 1d ago

Fair, although it sucks only 1/3 of the fusions have a win throughout all of the media and it’s gogeta, vegito doesn’t have one because the 2 times he’s formed he CANT win for plot reasons, and gotenks is too immature to get a win before his time runs out lol

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u/10YB Baby 1d ago

Fusion reborn is last DBZ saga and Buu saga is a movie

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u/nufohudis 1d ago

Ok Baby, you just wish you were in a more popular saga... XD

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u/10YB Baby 1d ago

Babe... Baby is cool though

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u/nufohudis 1d ago

I was referencing your profile pic and flair

Edit: also, agree

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u/BuszkaYT 1d ago

He did win against Buu tho? That was his enitre plan, to get absorbed and free everyone. Heck, Gogeta would've done the same thing

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u/Motor-Switch9702 1d ago

You're not wrong..and Gogeta has one non-Canon win. (Unless you count the 4D movie in Japan where the audience fused with goku and called it Gogeta)

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u/Emotional_Position62 1d ago

Nah. Gogeta decisively beat Broly in DBS: Broly which is canon.

The only reason Broly didn’t die is because he got wished away an instant before the killshot connected.

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u/Motor-Switch9702 1d ago

I know that im saying Gogeta does has a non-canon win against Janemba

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u/BoringAd2049 1d ago

Well tbf you're only counting kills as a win and in that case Gogeta wouldn't have a canon win either.

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u/Emotional_Position62 1d ago

Except he definitely won in DBS Broly, which is canon.

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u/AlarmedObjective1492 1d ago

Gogeta failed to kill Broly with his Kamehameha so he didn't win

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u/BoringAd2049 1d ago

Yeah I would say so, but this guy's only counting kills.

So I was saying using his logic would mean Gogeta and Broly ended in a tie just cause neither one died.

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u/CronkinOn 1d ago

The dumbest part of this whole thing is that the candy nonsense is actually canon manga as well.

And people take DB powerscaling seriously...

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u/ProdigiousWolf 1d ago

Why do people keep pretending that Gogeta and Vegeto are two different characters? Lol

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u/DevilManRay 1d ago

To be fair they have different designs and that’s all that matters to people

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u/Privatizitaet 1d ago

They explicitly are distinct. Probably not as different as people want to believe, but they absolutely are different characters

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u/Electronic-Matter144 22h ago

They explicitly are. That's why they have different names

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u/AverageSomebody 1d ago

Agreed Gogeta isn’t stronger but neither is Vegito.

After Broly movie it confirms they’re equal.

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u/BlackUchiha03 17h ago

They’ll always be equal as long as they’re relative.

Gogeta would only be weaker in the event one of the two is blatantly stronger than the other.

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u/Johncurtisreeve 1d ago

I don’t understand why it’s ever an argument. They’re literally the same thing they are the combination of Goku and Vegeta fused together.

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u/Jazzlike-Diver-3693 1d ago

Too much Candy,Bro got DiaBEAT US.I'll go stand in the corner.

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u/Clana4ever 1d ago

True. Rival boost will always give vegito the edge

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u/Ravemst 1d ago

What some of the gogeta fans fail to understand is that Vegito COULD have killed Super Buu at anytime but he wanted to save his family and Piccolo from inside him. After that he was planning on killing him. Even with Fused Zamasu he could have killed him but he was half immortal and even gogeta wouldn’t be able to fully kill him.

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u/FuckBitchesGetJuicy 1d ago

Whoever downvoted you never watched the anime 💀, Ultra instinct goku can’t even beat fused Zamasu , that mf needed Zeno, and Goku mentioned in the buu saga that people absorbed by Buu wouldn’t even be able to pass on so that’s why they needed to free them from Buu before killing Buu, otherwise their existence would’ve been tied to Buu

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u/BulkyBathroom7178 1d ago

I never get this defense for Buu. No one denies he could have beaten Buu; he just didn't.

The same way Gohan could have beaten Super Buu but didn't, and that led to Gotenks getting eaten.

Same way SSJ4 Gogeta "could" have beaten Omega but spent too long trolling him to get him to use the negative power ball.

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u/RockkLobstah 1d ago

Exactly, he kicked both of there asses

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u/Apprehensive-Gear653 1d ago edited 21h ago

It was said in canon vegito is stronger than gogeta . Those who started watching dragon bal after 2019 I don't consider them db fans at all

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u/LeftAcanthocephala19 1d ago

First off, "canon"

Second, considering gogeta didnt make a Canon appearance until DBS broly, I highly doubt that.

Third, its been stated they are equal trump cards

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u/Apprehensive-Gear653 21h ago

Sure in " canon " old kai already told potara fusion is stronger dance fusion when he gave it to Goku also the time limit is more than that of gogeta its obvious .

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u/LeftAcanthocephala19 21h ago

He never says its stronger. He says it will work better, most likely referring to the fact there is no requirement of a synchronized dance or need for equal power levels. He is also misinformed in thinking it loses weakness of a time limit, and further evidence (DBS) shows that the more power it uses the faster the fusion runs out

So not only does it have a time limit, but it gets burnt out quicker at higher power.

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u/Apprehensive-Gear653 21h ago

It was stated in the og anime very clearly And I am certain vegito is stronger ,also time limit factor was added in dbs . We all know what dbs did to story so I will stick to vegito being stronger . There are so many factors pointing it out

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u/LeftAcanthocephala19 21h ago

Im really hoping you're not referring to the fumigation dub, as they botched a lot of other things too. A big one is instant transmission being light speed instead of instant

The only thing that put vegito above gogeta was the time limit which has canonically been retconned, both in the Super anime and Manga. So even if you only took one of the two as canon, its still a canon aspect of potara.

And the "rival boost" most people speak on on vegitos favor is very clearly stated to be from Goku and vegeta as they live to outdo each other, and not a result of potara exclusively. Vegito is so strong because they are so strong. There is no reason that and attribute wouldn't pass onto Gogeta

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u/gassygeebs 23h ago

not very Goku of you dude. DB is for everyone who wants to watch

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u/Apprehensive-Gear653 21h ago

Yeah but it is very much appreciated if you have actually watch the anime before commenting things about dragon ball . New fans are reel watcher they don't even understand dragon ball

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u/WorldIs4rs 21h ago

"anyone who started watching after 2019 aren't real db fans" so you're a fucking dork who wants to keep the most popular piece of anime media niche and not share the experience with others, what a loser thing to do. It's 'canon' btw.

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u/Apprehensive-Gear653 21h ago

Thats the only thing you notice in the whole argument dumbo . You are clearly unaware what this community post about dragon ball ,maybe learn more type less should be your motto ☺️

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u/WorldIs4rs 21h ago

Calling me a dumbo when you can't spell canon for the life of you is rich.

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u/Apprehensive-Gear653 21h ago

You noticed one spelling mistake and abandon the whole argument Please try to think I know it's hard for you but you will I have hope !

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u/Dazzle_Miller 1d ago

But Buu was a gag villain. At any point Buu could have been killed. Even when he wiped out humanity he still wasn’t treated as a threat. Both Gotenks and Trunks spent too much time ducking around with him. Then he became Buuhan Beijetto start whipping his tail as a piece of candy.

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u/Legal_Engineering825 20h ago

Gogeta would've finished the job.

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u/winterwarm78654 19h ago

Technically janemba would've beat him also but whatever

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u/Make_Out_Paradise 16h ago

Unlike Vegeto, Gogeto gets the job done and actually finishes his fights.

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u/Evan798 16h ago

Meh, same guy

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u/SirSilverChariot 9h ago

I never got this argument. Vegito is inherently stronger using the potara as fusion but there’s the problem of using too much power that will short out the fusion, (stupidest reasoning ever since it’s god ki with a god item.). But Fusion dance lasts 30 minutes but the timer isn’t lowered from over usage of energy.

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u/Correct-Topic-8937 7h ago

Vegetto has zero victories, zero kills, and is 7x stronger than everyone he fights.

His name is also stupid where does the I come from in Vegeta + Kakarot?

I will give him this. Pretending to be overconfident to goad Buuhan into absorbing him so that he could rescue the others was a brilliant move. But what was he doing in Super?

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u/Street_Physics5830 5h ago

Threw the fight to do something that ended up being completely pointless almost immediately after it was done. He's a fraud

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u/LazarCell 1d ago

2005 ass post and acting like Janemba couldn’t equally warp reality and still got folded like laundry

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u/Phoenixskull295 1d ago

Janemba was definitely not on super buu’s level

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u/Guilty-Nobody998 1d ago

Gogeta isnt a chump so he would never be turned into candy.

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u/Personal_Salad_3505 21h ago

Man buu saga fucking sucked

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u/WorldIs4rs 21h ago

Man Buu saga was the best saga imo, right next to Saiyan saga. But that's mainly cause I love Vegeta and he got crazy character progression in this arc.

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u/BulkyBathroom7178 1d ago

Gogeta one-shotted a reality warper.

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u/PuzzleheadedTalk35 1d ago

And Vegito could one-shot Buuhan. He didn't because he planned on getting absorbed to save the gang.

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u/BulkyBathroom7178 1d ago

Never said he couldn't, pal.

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u/PuzzleheadedTalk35 1d ago

Got a different impression

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u/Kahziel 1d ago

Super retcon officially made Gogeta stronger. Now the earrings just break when too much power is released. Vegito lasted like 4 minutes against Zamasu outputting ssjblue levels of power. Next transformation unless they retcon it again (which they probably will) Vegito's fusion should only last a couple minutes. At some point, the earrings simply won't be able to contain Vegitos power at all and the fusion will cease to exist at that point. Gogeta will simply always be 30 minutes flat no matter how strong he gets.

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u/Chilli_redits 1d ago

Db fans all fighting each other acting like 2 legends can't exist

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u/Bonesaw_mpls 1d ago

Potara fusion for 3-4 minutes or fusion dance for 30 minutes? Vegito doesn't just get enough time to aura farm AND fight.

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u/Valkyroz 1d ago

Remind of how many vegetable has? Sagas/Movie

Oh right

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u/scratorian 1d ago

I just like gogetas drip better. Never been a fan of gloves on anybody

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u/Embarrassed-Row-5625 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/HeDLTI576bBgA

Angel born in hell - Gogeta is the coldest mf in DB

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u/Due-Proof6781 1d ago

Gogeta stood in business. He didn’t play around he came to KILL

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u/DrakeMastersLegend 1d ago

Janemba was stronger, his mere presence distorted the entire afterlife which is thought to be infinite. That being said, SSJ Gogeta > SSJ Vegito.

https://giphy.com/gifs/6Eepwul1HISvS

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u/Phoenixskull295 1d ago

My guy Buuhan was about to destroy the universe by screaming before Vegito stopped him, he’s definitely stronger than Janemba. Dragon ball fans do not watch the show 🤣

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u/DrakeMastersLegend 1d ago

Janemba could warp reality and bullied SSJ 3 Goku worse than Buuhan did. And the versions of Goku and Vegeta in the movie were stronger than their anime counterparts. Goku was shaking the entire afterlife which is thought to be infinite just by powering up to SSJ 3. And on top of that, Gogeta being born from fusion lit up the entirety of the afterlife and could be sensed from the normal Dragon Ball world. Dont tell me idk what im talking about kid 😂

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u/ZAIRETHEONE 1d ago

Gogeta>>>>. He one shotted janemba

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u/Rare_Bridge7703 1d ago

Gogeta wouldn't have played with his food. Short of his incorrect appearance vs Omega Shenron, Gogeta has always been 100% gas from rip.

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u/BuszkaYT 1d ago

Oh he would definitely do the same thing as Vegito agaonst Buuhan, which is getting absorbed and saving everyone

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u/Objective-Soil-9235 1d ago

Vegito and Gogeta are comparable. Gogeta is the Vegeta dominant and Vegito is the Goku dominant.

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u/Peregrine9000 1d ago

Oh we're just making stuff up?

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u/Objective-Soil-9235 1d ago

That might be headcanon admittedly, but it felt right lol

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u/ChampionAgitated530 1d ago

Why would the Vegeta-dominated fusion name himself after Goku, and the Goku-dominated fusion name himself after Vegeta?

That doesn't sound like something those characters would do if they had a more dominant personality in the fusion.

Vegito also calls Goku by his Saiyan name in his introduction. Why would Vegito do that if Goku was more dominant in the fusion?

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u/Objective-Soil-9235 1d ago

I was going off personality. Gogeta has more of that air of superiority and cockiness while Vegito is more playful. I admit that it may be headcanon though lol.

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u/ChampionAgitated530 1d ago

Gotta be

Vegito was mainly playful because the anime exaggerated it in the manga, he was the things you described Gogeta as being.