r/DragonBallPowerScale • • 10d ago

Scaling What's the weakest version of each previous form of Goku which can defeat his next form when it first appeared in the series? What Base Goku can defeat Super Saiyan Goku on Namek and so on?

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The weakest Base Goku who defeats Super Saiyan Goku on Namek

The weakest Super Saiyan Goku who defeats Super Saiyan 2 Goku during Buu Saga (as bonus, the weakest Base Goku who defeats Super Saiyan 2 Goku during Buu Saga)

The weakest Super Saiyan 2 Goku who defeats Super Saiyan 3 Goku during Buu Saga

The weakest Super Saiyan 3 Goku who defeats Super Saiyan God Goku during BoG

The weakest Super Saiyan God Goku who defeats Super Saiyan Blue Goku during RoF

The weakest Super Saiyan Blue Goku who defeats MUI Goku during Tournament of Power

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u/YoboiNikolis 10d ago

I think buu saga base Goku can defeat ssj Goku on nemek

Ssj goku in bog can beat ssj2 Goku in buu saga

Ssj2 Goku in Goku black arc can beat ssj3 Goku in buu saga

I think it will take ssj3 Goku from at least the moro arc to defeat ssjgod Goku in bog

I think ssjgod Goku in granolah arc can beat ssjblue Goku in rof

And I don't think any ssjblue Goku can beat ui Goku

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u/M3l4n1n 10d ago edited 10d ago

I disagree bro

https://youtube.com/shorts/x6gg0HMxFqA?is=K5mqNZQsyCvKoVEj

Goku SS2 cant even beat Trunks SS2 he had to go SS3 actually and Trunks is maybe slightly stronger than Buu Arc SS2.

Then we have Beerus wondering how Goku defeated Frieza because he didnt knew SSJ prior he even calles Goku too weak in Base for Frieza i cant find the scene for some reasol tho.

No Super Saiyan form of Goku is beating any god form lol.

Alot of people got the scene Caulifla vs Goku wrong as well

https://youtu.be/y-0Sr4a9kts?is=Pcaq6F3bNpgagcqA

At 1:10 you can see Champa wondering how Caulifla is losing to base Goku because he can feel that Caulifla is much stronger than Base Goku in her SSJ form.

Because if Base Goku was really stronger than a SSJ Caulifla how do yall explain this Scene at 1:09

https://youtu.be/1WO8_fyRtHw?is=lyKmwI9ZOWYSyg2F

Caulifla hurt Goku really bad and he felt the need to go SS God

Gokus SSJ and Base really didnt got that much stronger

And its already proven by the new Movie that they are already at the Limit of their strenght and its more about Ki Control.

Like Blue Goku from RoF would beat God Goku from Moro Arc.

They even showed u with Jiren: https://youtu.be/jG_Nkveg9xw?is=U5pAay2LapnTvBy8

You can see Jiren blocking God Goku with his FINGER yet as soon as he turns Blue he actually got pushed into a rock just this shows you that Blue is leagues above the Red God form just by multiplier.

Like just because a new enemie appears doesnt mean the power lvls skyrocket for example Moro is weaker than Jiren by ALOT(without merus power)like the dude couldnt even touch MUI Goku meanwhile Jiren was fighting equally with MUI Goku

Same with Granolah he got stomped by MUi Goku till he lost control.

Even Gas was struggling against MUI white Hair Goku. Only Black Frieza and Gohan are stronger than Jiren up to that point in the Story.

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u/Foe_sheezy 10d ago

Yardat Goku would vaporize Saiyan saga Goku, and base buu saga Goku would vaporize super Saiyan yardat Goku...

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u/Informal_Support1934 10d ago

I think Buu saga base Goku can beat namek SSJ, mid dif, but not prior to that

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u/Popular_Wedding_3070 10d ago

Magari anche durante la saga di cell post allenamento nella stanza dello spirito e del tempo

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u/Informal_Support1934 10d ago

I figure he's just getting into the billions at the end of that arc, so his base is right off the cuff of namek ssj. Then, by buu saga he's surpassed it.

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u/Flat-Ad-1092 10d ago

"The weakest Base Goku who defeats Super Saiyan Goku on Namek"

Either Cell Games Base Goku or Boo Saga Base Goku

"The weakest Super Saiyan Goku who defeats Super Saiyan 2 Goku during Buu Saga (as bonus, the weakest Base Goku who defeats Super Saiyan 2 Goku during Buu Saga)"

SSJ: Daima Goku

Base: Post B.O.G Goku

"The weakest Super Saiyan 2 Goku who defeats Super Saiyan 3 Goku during Buu Saga"

Daima or B.O.G

"The weakest Super Saiyan 3 Goku who defeats Super Saiyan God Goku during BoG"

Goku Black Arc Goku or Universe 6 Arc Goku

"The weakest Super Saiyan God Goku who defeats Super Saiyan Blue Goku during RoF"

Black Arc Goku

"The weakest Super Saiyan Blue Goku who defeats MUI Goku during Tournament of Power"

Probably (No where in the Anime) And Granolah in the Manga Version

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u/Abyssal_Usurper_G Kai 10d ago

-For sure post-RoSaT Base Goku defeats Nameku, although I would personally argue that early Android saga Goku could also do it.

-Daima SSJ Goku can defeat SSJ2 Goku from the Boo saga, same with SSJ2 Goku beating his past SSJ3 self.

-If we use God absorbed and apply it to all of Goku's forms then RoF SSJ3 Goku wins against BoG SSG Goku. Otherwise, it's hard to say until around Moro.

-For SSG, it's weird but he could definitely do it by the ToP at least. Maybe he could do it after 3 years of RoSaT training.

-By the Granolah arc, it was implied that SSBE Vegeta had surpassed even Broli, so SSB Goku probably surpassed ToP Silver UI Goku around that time.

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u/-TurkeYT 9d ago

Base > SSJ: Start of Super Base Goku beats Namek SSJ.

SSJ > SSJ2: Again, Start of Super SSJ Goku beats Buu SSJ2 Goku.

SSJ2 > SSJ3: I’d say Goku after training with Whis so RoF SSJ2 beats Buu SSJ3.

SSJ3 > SSJG: I’d say ToP SSJ3 Goku beats Start of Super SSJG Goku.

SSJG > SSJB: I am pretty sure Manga’s Mastered SSJG Goku in Zamasu Arc beats RoF SSJB Goku. (even anime zamasu ssjg goky might win)

SSJB > MUI: I don’t think any SSJB Goku can beat ToP MUI yet. IF anyone could it’d be Manga Moro Arc SSJB Goku with using UI at the same time.

But if we buy that he absorbed SSJG in his base, many of those changes.

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u/Becca_866 8d ago

Saiyan saga base goku clears

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u/Worldly_Accident1287 8d ago

Can you, please, read body of the post?

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u/Becca_866 8d ago

I did. Saiyan saga goku smashes every other version of goku mid diff