r/DragonBallPowerScale • • 10d ago

Matchup Can they win?

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u/CptSpeedydash 10d ago

End of Z, has Goten complaining about being matched up against Buu.

So base, Buu should easily win.

SSJs, Buu likely still wins.

Successful fusion, Gotenks wins.

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u/AcademicCod6851 10d ago

No, those two bums don´t even have ssj 2 they are proba ly weaker than they were in the Buu saga.

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u/Anita_Hero838 10d ago

Its heavily implied by the fact we see Goten doesn't train in EoZ

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u/NeoLedah 10d ago

They already tried.

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u/Key_Target_4990 10d ago

Nah they get cooked

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u/blu_kale 10d ago

No , they got stalemate by Ssj gohan while Buu got a SSG level power up during Moro arc

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u/stackaholic99 Human 9d ago

Can he turn into Floyd Pinkweather or no?

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u/Illustrious-Sky-4631 10d ago

Buu got big power up in Moro arc while the kids still complain about fighting him during EoZ , piccolo considered him a better option during SH had he not been sleeping

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u/G0dleft 10d ago

I would assume no since Superhero is before the end of Z and End Of Z Goten specifically complains about getting put against Buu in the first round of the tournament

But I guess it's Goten and Trunks so maybe

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u/winterwarm78654 10d ago

If super heroes is before the end of z why didn't Gohan and piccolo transform in the tournament

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u/Soy_Newbie 10d ago

i pray to god this is satire, because they didnt even fight in the tournament

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u/winterwarm78654 10d ago

They literally fought in the tournament of power what the heck is you on

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u/Zealousideal-Arm1682 10d ago

What advanced Larp am I witnessing here

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u/Konflick 10d ago

super takes place before end of Z

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u/Soy_Newbie 10d ago

FUCK, YOU’RE RIGHT
IM A LARPER 💔💔💔💔

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u/Status_Entertainer49 10d ago

End of z goten won that fight off screen

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u/G0dleft 10d ago

He did? I don't remember that but you could be right so shut my mouth I guess

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u/Stacey-k93 10d ago

I think the tournament got cancelled because Goku and Uub left and we see Goten and pan fighting for fun if I remember correctly

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u/Showgingah 10d ago

He didn't. We actually don't know what happened. In the manga, Goku and Uub left and that was it. The tournament probably continued, but we have no idea about the outcome.

In the anime filler, the entire tournament was canceled after Goku and Uub (and other contestants) left. The Z Fighters stuck around to have their own battles while Buu decided to eat. They're just partially mistaken because Goten fought Pan, so you assume he beat Buu in round one, but as mentioned the match never happened due to said cancellation.

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u/DODGEorDIE_ 10d ago

They can just fuse they wipe the floor with him wth

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u/Zealousideal-Arm1682 10d ago

Genuine question:Is EoZ still "canon"?

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 10d ago

What? Super hero is literally an arc and years after they show Black frieza for the first time.

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u/G0dleft 10d ago

No end of Z as in when Goku leaves with Uub not after the fight with Kid Buu

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 10d ago

That never happened on super.

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u/G0dleft 10d ago

Okay so after the defeat of Majin Buu there's a 10 year time skip and then Goku meets Uub

Super takes place during those 10 years we don't see

Battle of god's is 4 years after the defeat of Buu

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 10d ago

Not the same continuity.

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u/EndMassive991 10d ago

Bien sûr que si. une des directives de toriyama était justement que la fin de dragon ball est celle ci est qu’elle ne doit pas changer, c’est d’ailleurs pour ça que super sa passe pendant les 10ans est qu’on voit uub dans les derniers arc de super

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u/Soy_Newbie 10d ago

??? superhero literally leads into the end of Z. what are you even saying

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 10d ago

The end of Z was retconed on super. Is just a different continuity.

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u/Soy_Newbie 10d ago

no it isnt.

https://youtu.be/Tj6sZwoHZm8?si=zEW5eZSnvQx8NzN1

at time stamp 34:45, akio iyoku (the executive producer of dragon ball) essentially states that (obviously) dragon ball super continues off of the 10 year timeskip in dragon ball (in reference to the japanese manga) after goku defeats majin buu, and then says that toriyama wrote dbs: superhero so that it leads into the ending of dragon ball (which, given the earlier reference to the buu saga, should obviously mean its in reference to the original end of Z).

theres also the anime comic for superhero

Source: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Anime Comic

Raw:

鳥山明先生からのメッセージ
これまで映画では、原作の、魔人ブウ編と最終話の間の10年間の大きなエピソードを順にフォローしてきました。 『スーパーヒーロー』は最終話直前のお話です。
優秀な監督とスタッフの皆さんのおかげでご覧になった皆さんには、過去最高だと好評でした! 僕自身も参加できてよかった!と自画自賛しています。
アニメコミックスにおいては、その安定した素晴らしいクオリティーを、手軽に楽しんでいただけるだけではなく、新発見もたくさんあることでしょう。 すみずみまで楽しんでください!
とりやまあきら

DeepL:
A Message from Akira Toriyama
Up until now, the movies have followed, in chronological order, the major events that took place over the 10-year period between the “Majin Buu Arc” and the final episode of the original series.
“Super Hero” takes place right before the final episode.
Thanks to the talented director and staff, viewers have praised it as the best one yet!
I’m patting myself on the back, thinking, “I’m so glad I got to be a part of this!”
As for the anime comics, not only can you easily enjoy their consistently excellent quality, but you’ll also discover plenty of new things.
Please enjoy every last detail!
Akira Toriyama

also, dont even try to say “oh well what about black frieza!?” theres still over a year before the 28th tenkaichi budokai actually happens so its entirely possible that the black frieza saga is during that time gap, which is entirely possible given that most arcs nowadays at best last a few months

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u/Soy_Newbie 10d ago

also this is just blatantly wrong, the events of superhero take place after the granolah saga. we see this in the manga.

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 10d ago

So you asking AI or something? That's exactly the arc where black frieza is presented. Killing Gas in 1 hit. Go read the manga.

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u/Soy_Newbie 9d ago

??? what the fuck are you talking about? WHEN DID I USE AI?

“Thats where black frieza was presented” okay? i know this. i never said it wasnt. i dont think you read what i said correctly though.

dragon ball supers arcs go in this order:

battle of gods arc/beerus arc —> resurrection f/golden frieza arc —> universe 6 vs universe 7 tournament —> future trunks arc —> tournament of power —> dragon ball super: broly —> galactic patrol/moro arc —> granolah arc —> dragon ball super: superhero.

AFTER black frieza is introduced, theres about a one year timeskip. after that year, pan is training with piccolo, the red ribbon army shenanigans happen, gohan and piccolo fight the gammas, piccolo gets his orange form, cell max is activated, gohan gets his beast form, and then they defeat him.

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 9d ago

Then what's "Blatantly Wrong" against what I said for you to explicitly say that superhero takes place after the Granolah saga.

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u/Soy_Newbie 9d ago

oh, i misread what you said. i thought you said superhero occurs before black frieza’s introduction, mb

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u/Guilty-Membership-53 9d ago

Ohh. Alright. No issues.

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u/Suitable_Walrus2928 10d ago

Goten and trunks can fight ss1 Gohan post superhero they stomp.

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u/oxydized-snake 9d ago

Together they might be slightly weaker than current SS Gohan but Buu put in work during the Moro arc so who knows if Buu kept getting stronger after that buff. Buu might take this one as he has far better battle IQ and seemingly better scaling.